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Wednesday, September 27, 2006

T.O. Reportedly Attempted Suicide although ESPN is citing an adverse reaction to painkillers as the reason for his being hospitalized.

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I find it hard to believe that he would attempt suicide, but you never know. I'm wondering if a reporter or a police officer was trying too hard to get publicity.

I heard the same report on the radio here in chicago...i wouldn't be surprised if he did attempt suicide...the guy is absolutely crazy. earlier, his publicist said it was an allergic reaction to pain killers and is nothing to worry about...liar.

Crazy or not, pain in the ass or not, distraction or not -- if * the guy did try to kill himself, its very sad and I hope he gets the help he needs. * Too soon to know. Wingnut is right that it could be rumor at this early point.

This is the TV station that's reporting it. Has a link to the police report.

Yeah, if he did in fact attempt to harm himself, as the police report alledges, I hope that he takes the help he needs and will be offered to him.

... the guy is absolutely crazy. Based on what? Prior to today, he was just an egotistical showboat disrespectful to his teammates, neither of which suggests mental illness.

The Smoking Gun has it too. I think I am used to seeing more official looking police reports from the Smoking Gun though.

Attention whore.

...um, ok, fraze...

It's way, way, way too early to say what happened here yet. We have stories from two sources right now, the Dallas Police report and Owens' publicist, neither of which sound complete in the least. We'll see.

ironic that the day Byron Nelson, one of sports greatest gentleman as well as performers, dies, the BUM TO can't get suicide right.

Dude.

Sad to hear if it's true. TO obviously needs help beyond what football or fame can provide. I feel for the guy.

This looks like it happened, Dallas police will have a news conference in a little while....... I don't care for Owens, but I have felt for a long time that some of the things he has done are more than an attempt to keep him in the limelight. This man needs professional mental health help.

I have never been a TO fan. His antics on the field are a bit much for me to handle, however my prayers are with him. Football is entertainment for us fans ; Suicide is a game you don't play. God help him.

Hey TO, Brett Favre just called...He wants to know why you wasted all of that good Vicodin?

I'm sad for Terrell Owens. I think this will ruin the fun and drama that has been provided by the wonderful villain, TO.

Goodbye, schadenfreude.

Maybe he's changing his playbook and trying to go from being scorned to being a victim since its all everyone else's fault to begin with? I hope he gets help if he really did try to kill himself but it feels like this is another cry for attention. Which just kind of makes it all the sadder.

Most, but definately not all, suicide attempts with pills are simply a cry for attention and help. Especially when it is done with people around where the possibility of being found in time are high. Without being on scene with all of the details, it appears that TO was doing just that. Trying to get attention. Hopefully it will be the sort of attention where he gets help now.

True. Before, this was funny to everyone except Niners/Eagles/Cowboys fans, depending on the year. Right now, not so much. Again, we don't know anything about what happened, or even if the reports we've heard so far are anywhere near accurate. It's a sure thing that we'll hear the rest of the story in short order, but up till now, we have a one-line news item, a one-paragraph police report, and a publicist's soundbite. And that's it. That's nothing. Just keep that in mind while you trot out those truly hilarious one-liners.

this is not a laughing matter. this is sad. i hope the human side of the world and this thead shows up rather than clowns who truly despise real life.

Wow, I glazed over when ESPN started talking about TO this morning but apparently it was a legitimate story. Shocking. This is really bizarre and I'm not sure what to think of it. I would count TO among the last possible people I would suspect a suicide attempt out of. I always hear that failed suicide attempts are pleas for attention, I don't know how true that is and I'm not sure how much more attention he could get anyway. This all adds up to one big WTF.

Goodbye, schadenfreude. Goodbye? Sounds like people are wallowing in it here.

I'm quite stunned myself about all this; although I'm keeping in mind that we don't know everything yet (or someone simply jumped the gun in reporting this here). I never liked TO but I don't want to see the guy die; nothing he's done is worth THAT.

you are right on chicobangs-we dont know all of the details. Its a shame how little value some put on a person's life.

People don't think of TO as a "real" person, so it's ok to to wish death upon him. That's obviousely not cool but I think that's the reasoning.

Looks as if the police have already had a press conference.

Some fans catalog AROD as a weak (of mind) person, for having admitted to attend therapy. In TO's case, we can see how troubling a top athlete's life can be. They live under constant scrutiny, and are paid to perform at the highest level at ALL TIMES, but they are humans, and as such they all bare burdens, deep in their souls that dictate some forms of behavior which aren't easily understood to the public. Anxiety, depression, addiction, etc are just some of the tip of the iceberg issues mostly perceived.

Sounds like people are wallowing in it here. Not as much as normal for TO. Besides, I just meant for myself; the Cowboys-Eagles game is looking a lot less fun right now.

Just as with many other aspects of life people are so quick to come up with their own conclusions of what happened based on limited and/or incomplete information. Just as has been said above by others, let's hold judgment until the facts are straighter and fewer blanks left to be filled. For the sake of dialogue, though, IF the report is true, the fact that some people would exhibit their schadenfreude (nice word, btw) is saddening but hardly shocking.

There's a difference between mouthing off for attention because you only got 3 passes your way and attempting suicide. Hopefully he'll get the help he needs. In TO's case, we can see how troubling a top athlete's life can be. Fixed that for ya.

Thus far, it sounds like a cry for help that wasn't particularly well planned out. While I've long lost the appetite for following the back-and-forth of the whole T.O. thing, I refuse to jump on someone whose worst "crime" has been not knowing when to shut up. That being said, I'm glad another team in my fantasy league took him just before I was about to...

I wouldn't have expected a suicide attempt, but looking back, I guess it wouldn't be all that surprising if it's true. After all, it's often said that a suicide attempt is a desperate cry for attention. The same can be said about his public life for a long time. If his need for attention actually is that great, he does need help. Maybe a good therapist can help him get onto an even keel (for probably the first time in his adult life).

I refuse to jump on someone whose worst "crime" has been not knowing when to shut up. Exactly.

I realize some people don't when to shut up like TO...but some of the people writing in this blog show no class, they should be ashamed of theireself Leave this man (TO) alone!!!!

Goodbye, schadenfreude Yeah, apparently not. Wow. If it turns out to be the case, some of you are going to have serious and well-deserved karma issues. Weirdly enough, I saw T.O.'s house featured on 'Cribs' last night (don't ask) and he really comes off as a guy who seems misplaced. I realize that there's only so much one can glean from a 15 minute MTV-produced bit, but I couldn't help but feel that T.O. seemed very lonely. Well, it's true, despite how jackassy the above paragraph makes me sound.

In all fairness rcade, it was reported on ESPN just a few minutes ago that the due dilligence report used by Jerry Jones prior to bringing TO to the Cowboys contained reports from the 49'ers and the Eagles suggesting Owens may have Mental Health Issues that needed treatment. However, Owens rejected the the diagnosis and treatment option and he has admiited to feeling depressed prior to this incident. His upcoming news conference should be informative. Hopefully he's OK and it was just an adverse reaction to mediacation.

This will probably turn out to be completely overblown. And I wouldn't believe that leaked police report.

an adverse reaction to mediacation T.O. usually seems to have an adverse reaction to mediacation. Seriously though - If this is true, it's very sad.

I guess T.O. doesn't love himself quite as much as we all assumed. Am I suprised to learn that he has mental problems? Um....... Maybe it was just an adverse reaction to droppin like 5 passes...

The bitchy little snide remarks about a man, a fellow person, attempting suicide is a bit surprising, even for some of you new trolls. Cut it out, act like a human being.

leave the guy alone he is under enough pressure

First off, my thoughts and prayers are with the guy. I hope he gets the help he needs to deal with this issue (being a person who has spent a lot of time thinking about killing himself). With that said, I would hope everyone would take away from this episode is that: 1. Football is a game. 2. It's players are people, not just cardboard cutouts to cheer and jeer. 3. We never know how much pressure most of these guys (and gals, for women's sports) are under, until much later. It's very hard to judge the actions of people who all you know about them is what they choose to let you see (or let slip through, which won't be much).

By the way, when I wrote "judgment" above, I meant about the situation/story, not the man.

Ok. I have been a Dallas Cowboys fan for many, many years. The moment the report came that the 'Boys signed this guy, I was pissed. Don't get me wrong, Terrell Owens is a great receiver and his signing was a great pick up, it was just his attitude I disliked. Now, hearing these reports about T.O. either having an adverse reaction to his medication or commiting suicide has made me feel bad for the guy. We are all human and when something happens to a human being that's only real problem in life has been his big mouth, it's hard to think about the game. I can only hope that these reports are false and he's feeling fine. My thoughts and prayers go out to Terrell Owens and his family.

There wasn't any hard evidence against Owens. I have been listening to the ESPN report, and the only background they have is that when the officer asked him if he tried to hurt himself, Owens said "yes". If you were potentially trying to hurt yourself, that dosent nessesarily suggest suicide. Another thing, if he was under the influence of the pain killers, pills, etc; he could have easily misinterpreted the question. Either way, good luck to T.O. (I never thought I would actually say that)

FWIW, it is entirely possible that, should this turn out to be a suicide attempt, this had nothing to do with football. We have no idea what T.O.'s life is like outside of Football beyond how his image is manipulated. I, for one, wish him the best and, should this turn out to be an actual suicide attempt, hope he seeks out the help he needs.

I'll stand by my original statement until proven otherwise. Just about everything in his public life up until this point has been about self-aggrandizing attention whoring, and this looks no different to me. Am I saying I wish he'd succeeded? Of course not. I hope if he really needs treatment for some mental illness, he receives it. But swallowing some pills doesn't erase a past filled with douchebaggery. Oh, and from the article: Owens owns a 2,656-square-foot condominium in Deep Ellum valued at $405,000, according to the Dallas County Appraisal District. What the hell does that have to do with anything?

What a suprise. The media lied. I'm shocked.

What a suprise. The media lied. I'm shocked.

I'll stand by my original statement until proven otherwise. Just about everything in his public life up until this point has been about self-aggrandizing attention whoring, and this looks no different to me. Am I saying I wish he'd succeeded? Of course not. I hope if he really needs treatment for some mental illness, he receives it. But swallowing some pills doesn't erase a past filled with douchebaggery. I don't think it's intended to, fraze, for him or for anyone who attempts suicide (if he did). I'm no psychologist, but I think the "cry for help/play for attention" thing is popularly misunderstood -- it's not bunk, but the truth is more complicated, and it's not "attention whoring". I dunno. The word "but" doesn't really belong here, IMO, because I don't think suicide is about balancing, or erasing your past. I'll reserve my judgment until I know more about what the deal is, and see more about how he handles the aftermath.

T.O. denies suicide attempt.

Public denies T.O. human being, deserving of common respect.

A police report is a sworn statement. A sworn statement about a star of Terrell Owens' stature is a news worthy story. Everything I saw said "Dallas police report says Terrell Owens tried to kill himself." Not sure you can pin this on "the media". (Edit: Yeah, what weedy said. Some of you folks have some serious need-for-attention issues.)

Below is part of an information page on hydrocodone. About a year ago I had a bad hand injury for which I was given hydrocodone. The doctor wouldn't continue it past about 10 days. Man, I loved that stuff, which is probably why they wouldn't let me continue taking it. Symptoms of an hydrocodone and acetaminophen overdose may include slow breathing, seizures, dizziness, weakness, loss of consciousness, coma, confusion, tiredness, cold and clammy skin, small pupils, nausea, vomiting, and sweating. TO's reaction sure sounds like an OD to me.

The Media sure looks stupid now! I blame any "over-coverage" directly to the Media. They need to WAIT until ALL of the facts are out! We dont know exactly what happend last night and we may never know. I just chuckled when Dan Patrick realized that he wasted 3 hours on a "non-story".

Owens was perscribed a narcotic pain killer, one of the side effects would be intense euphoria. Any chance he had an adverse reaction from taking too many because he was trying to get high? Maybe its just the addict mentality in me but that was my first thought.

They need to WAIT until ALL of the facts are out! Right. Next time something like 9/11 happens, we'll get back to you sometime the following year.

Who really gives a crap about this primadonna? I am so sick and tired of hearing about his antics on a daily basis. ESPN, SI, and the media in general give us a daily dose of TO and who really cares? We all know Jerry Jones brought him to Dallas to generate media attention for the woeful Cowboys. It's a shame that Parcells is the one designated to deal with it. When he broke his finger, you'd think he was on his death bed. It happened the same week David Pollack broke his neck during the Bengals-Browns game and that barely got a whisper on the news. Does anyone outside of TO's posse really care what he says or does? I think there are more deserving athletes of this media attention than him.

Inside Scoop on TO's "attempt" Ex-49ers PR Kirk Reynolds is probably one of the last to talk to TO before the attempt and he tells us the truth

We dont know exactly what happend last night and we may never know. I just chuckled when Dan Patrick realized that he wasted 3 hours on a "non-story". Holy contradiction, Batman.

They need to WAIT until ALL of the facts are out! Yeah, really. They need to get real facts ike an agent who can't get her story straight! Heaven forbid they pay attention to... oh I don't know, sworn police reports that detail how the 911 caller (again TO's agent) said they had a suicide attempt. The media does not look stupid in this case. That's not to say the media hasn't looked stupid (Dan Shaughnessy is one of the stupidest looking people I've ever seen) or will not look stupid in the future (Shank will likely continue looking stupid). They had a police report, that is generally sworn information, that detailed what the caller reported in to 911 and details from the scene. All signs pointed to suicide attempt.

The media does not look stupid in this case. I disagree. I guess they never learned of the assume/ass relation.

Today's-useless-grammar-make- fun-of-the-nitpicky-ass- monkey-that-pointed-it-out- lesson-of-the-day: "Media" is the plural form of "medium". Media look stupid. Media do not look stupid. Preview: Yes, those dumb media folk assumed and cited a police report - a sworn statement (did anyone mention that yet?) Not sure what they assumed, but we won't let that get in the way of a worn out, old saying.

8 reasons T.O. might try to kill himself If he came across spofi just once while surfing the web. Spofi is not a group of sportswriters, it's a group of regular everyday people, and it's only 1 sports blog out of a million on the Internet. T.O is the type of person that could possible take this shit to heart if he stumbled upon it (as if he has never been to yahoo.com). I can't help but wonder how many of us would have posted some type of foolish celebration post had he been successful (if it was indeed a suicide attempt). We should think twice before we come down so hard on anyone including athletes. They're only playing a game. Do we actually hate any human being on earth that much?

Again, here in Big D everything is blown out of proportion. Every time TO breaks wind its front page news.Summers Eve is on track. This is a non story.

...with 67 comments. And counting. Funny, that.

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Summers Eve is on track. This is a non story. Better get that sarcasm detector recalibrated. 69, hyuk hyuk hyuk

I wonder if any NFL players will come out publicly in support of Terrell Owens with disclosure of anti-depressant medication use? Statistically there have to be some. Fortunately for Terrell Owens he has the talent to avoid the discarding that Barrett Robinson got. I just hope, regardless of how much he plays this down, he gets some help before he does hurt himself or anyone else. Some in this thread have suggested withholding judement until later. I would suggest that this story never need judgement applied to it.

Lets face it folks, TO is playing his annual media trump card here and we're all falling for it. Dosen't anybody see a pattern here? Please, I can't be the only one!

You are amazingly the only one. You are a beautiful and unique snowflake. Congrats. I lost count, 72?

Lets face it folks, TO is playing his annual media trump card here and we're all falling for it. Dosen't anybody see a pattern here? Please, I can't be the only one! He may be on to something. This could be an elaborate scheme that has been concieved by T.O. and the United States government to be used as an elaborate cover up to deflect public attention from the fact that 9/11 was indeed a public conspirisy and Osama Bin Laden is just a Saudi Arabian actor who helps support the cover up.

Posted by dobu ''Who really gives a crap about this primadonna" I couldn't agree with you more. T.O. stirs up more shit every place he plays,or perhaps every place the guy has lived. If in fact he was trying to commit suicide,then he and every else like him should seek psychiatric help. But if he's just doing it for attention, enough is enough. I'm sick and tired of him crying about not getting the ball enough,and all the other antics this over paid, self centered, selfish spoiled cry baby of an athlete that he is. He's lucky to be born with the athlectic skills that he has, and the money he has made with them. So come on T.O., time for you to grow up,get your finger out of your butt and just play football. I don't think Parcells is going to take any more of your shit. In fact, I think everyone is sick of it. So if it is true and you did actually try to commit suicide,next time try a little harder, and maybe you'll suceed.

I feel badly for his family. According to his own publicist "he has twenty-five million reasons to stay alive". Its all about the money. Why were his pills in a drawer and not in the pill bottle? Hopefully, he gets help.

There are some pathetic people in here. I can't believe some of the stuff I am reading in here. There is a lot of weird facts in this whole story. If Owens did indeed try to commit suicide, he doesn't need to try harder to succeed next time. Hopefully, there won't be a next time. Not for him or anyone that might try to take there own life. But thats ok, everyone has their own personal opinion, and they have every right to express it. But if this was about someone you knew or were close to you wouldn't dare to think of saying some of the things that are being said about him.

I'm sick and tired of him crying about not getting the ball enough I know this is the Internet and I know you are Hard, but can you seriously not see the difference between some guy complaining about getting thrown to in a game vs. some guy who tried to kill himself? I will admit to having a huge hole in my psychic armor around suicide attempts, but you're running on a pretty lean mix if you can't have sympathy for a person who tried to kill themself.

But, yerfatma, haven't you been paying attention? It was all a play for attention! TO's annual publicity stunt! Our very own set of Sportsfilter Solons have so decreed it, and they know. couldn't possibly be talking out their collective ass, could they?

That "25-million reasons to stay alive" comment from the publicist did kind of make my skin crawl.

Very Jerry Maguire.

Several former teammates from the Niners were weighing in on this story on every local Bay Area newscast this morning. T.O. had an "entourage" but no real friends, so the "25 million reasons to stay alive" comment is probably not far from the truth. Since he was already back on the practice field today, I would venture to say that it was less a suicide attempt and more a bad reaction to the drug, an empty stomach, and whatever supplements he was taking. I don;t like him either, but I would never want to see the guy end his life this way. I too hope he gets the help and attention he really needs.

Good luck! No matter how much he tries to explain this away the media already set everything in motinon by sensationalizing the incident. Personally I don't give a rat's ass about Terrell or the Cowboys, but this is going to be with him for the rest of his life now. The guy could win 4 Superbowl mvp's but someone will always remind him of Dallas and this incident.

"25-million reasons to stay alive" Classy, very classy! She must have been an associate of Sugar's (jerry mac ref)

this is going to be with him for the rest of his life now. If you attempted to commit suicide -- or had an accidental bad drug mix that led to a ride to the ER -- do you seriously think that it wouldn't be with you for the rest of your of-no-media-interest- whatsoever life?

That "25-million reasons to stay alive" comment from the publicist did kind of make my skin crawl. Her whole spiel was pretty wretched, from the money comment to the self-congratulation for calling 911 to her condemning the police for making stuff up even though she couldn't quite remember what she said. One of the local radio guys said - in regards to something else, but I think it's pertinent here - that T.O.'s most guilty of surrounding himself with bad people. She seems to exacerbate that statement. Otherwise, coming from a Cowboy and T.O. hater, I really have yet to see that there's any big deal in this. It happens to people, and it's happened to a lot of people I know, but the fact that it was T.O. doesn't mean the entire sports-world at large needs to treat it like the Columbine Massacre.

I think he just needs a big hug. We should ask if he violated the leagues substance abuse policy. He should be on aspirin 3 days after a broken finger.

Well it seems TO was not trying to commit suicide: sports.espn.go.com Growing up dirt poor in Bama in a wood-frame house, raised by an alcoholic grandma who only allowed one shaded lamp to be lit in the dark and kept him locked inside, finding out at age 11 his dad was not dead but was the stranger living right across the street who had never even bothered to speak to the young TO until TO started to flirt with his (at the time unknown) half-sister, eating only three days a week in college because he had no money...if TO had ever had suicidal tendencies he wouldn't be here today because he probably would've squeezed the trigger, popped the pills, or jumped off a perfectly good building a long time ago.

This is just the media looking for a story. I'm surprised that Terrell was as coherent as he was at the press conference (actually I thought he was pretty sharp) even on "two or three" of those generic Vicodins... No way he took all of those pills... The only thing that doesn't add up is this Etheridge chick and her conflicting statements... I definitely not a fan of T.O. or a T.O. apologist, but his past prima donna behavior probably led to the media jumping to conclusions on this one...

Etheridge is a publicist by trade. She's been professionally trained to no longer know what truth is, but rather what serves her client and what doesn't. By that yardstick, she's doing fine. Next question.

"two or three" of those generic Vicodins.... Why was a man as rich as T.O taking generic pills? Its not like he couldn't afford the regular kind. Maybe this could have something to do with it...

I hope that wasn't even a serious question.

Damn, this thread is bringing the numbnutsomniscient mind-readers out of the woodwork, isn't it?

I've been thinking about this. If I subtract my debt from my checkings and savings, I have negative reasons to live. Goodbye cruel world. (to any well-meaning do-gooder internet-nannies, the above is only a joke.)

Overeager Dallas cops + overeager media + publicity hungry NFL superstar = internet shitheads publicly celebrating reports of another human being's attempt at suicide. And to all who are busy celebrating somebody else's misery, you're a sad little poser. You're just showing out, trying to impress the world as an Internet Tough Guy, but it isn't working; we all know you don't dare talk this kind of shit in the real world, or you'd have had your ass kicked up around your shoulder blades every day of your miserable life, and you know it. If we should be dissecting anybody's mental health, it should be yours.

Lbb, got a comment on the thread or are you just the walmart greeter waiting to bash everyone else's comments? BTW, throwing the 9/11 comment in there was really classy.

Damn, this thread is bringing the numbnutsomniscient mind-readers out of the woodwork, isn't it? posted by lil_brown_bat at 7:19 AM CDT on September 28 Is that an introspection?

louisville_slugger: Lbb, got a comment on the thread I just did. zippinglou: Is that an introspection? Hardly. There are a dozen of so people (and I use the term loosely) in this thread who are boasting their knowledge of Just What Happened, but I'm not one of them.

OK. Now that Terrell Owens has spoken to the media about all this drama, can we move it along? Terrell DID NOT attempt suicide, bottom line!! What bothers me the most is that not only the media over-reacted to this personal health issue and blew it out of purportion, but to stake claim that this was a case of a man trying to take his own life was absurd. The officer that made the official statement did not know who leaked that information but that it was not accurate by any means whatsoever. People are so quick to judge someone that they may not like for whatever reason. I find it troubling that Terrell's situation was made out to be something bigger than what it really was, a guy that does not drink, smoke or does any drugs and is taking a prescribed narcotic. Hydocodone is not just some pill that you can take and not feel the effects, especially when the person taking them doesn't take them on a regular. Imagine a non-drinker that takes a shot or two of Vodka, you think they're not going to feel loopy? Why is is that Terrell Owens' portrayed as the villian here when he is as human as all of us and is actually the victim? I find it to be a shame and just hope that this type of thing doesn't happen to anyone else.

The officer that made the official statement did not know who leaked that information but that it was not accurate by any means whatsoever. Citation please.

Why was a man as rich as T.O taking generic pills? Chances are that even TO was covered by medical insurance of some type. No way they will allow the branded drug to be used instead of a generic. The quality of the generic is equal to that of the branded drug in most cases. The 3-digit total of the comments above, including mine, tells me that TO needs a lot of help, and soon. It also tells me that all of us need a lot of help too, if TO is the main thing on our minds today.

The 3-digit total of the comments above, including mine, tells me that we could close this thread down and not miss a thing from here on out.

Howard, I agree wholeheartedly with the first part of your last post. Unfortunately, I think the second part was utter tripe. The number of posts here has not a thing to do with the state of Terrell Owens' mental health, unelss, as I suspect, he's actually masquerading on this site as rcade. As far as the rest of us, well, some of us do indeed need a lot of help (/glares accusingly at SummersEve), but to say that T.O. is the main thing on our minds is quite an overstatement. Most of us are enjoying a little quality diversion time, and that's why we're here in the first place.

Discussing TO, or anything, doesn't imply that people do not have more important, more pressing issues on their minds. That's silly, Howard. Just silly talk.

i hope t.o sued these fuckers to make up this story about suicide the media bringing out his past childhood he had vitamins mixed with pain killers given him an allergic reaction

Hey people, T.O.'s just trying to make a run for MVP...More Vicodin Please!!!

Don't give up your day job for comedy, sir.

The number of posts here has not a thing to do with the state of Terrell Owens' mental health, unelss, as I suspect, he's actually masquerading on this site as rcade. Your comment wounds me. I was raised in a cage by my grandmother. Where are my pills? Does this sheer white unitard make my butt look fat?

I wish this thread could have ended with defrag's comment.

i hope t.o sued these fuckers to make up this story about suicide I sincerely doubt that happened.

I was raised in a cage by my grandmother. Bah - you were lucky! Oh, how we DREAMED of having a cage! Me and my seventeen brothers and four hundred and thirty-eight sisters lived in shoe box in the middle of the highway. At night, our father would get home and slash us in two with a bread knife.

I wish this thread could have ended with defrag's comment. I don't know. The thought of Mr. Cade in a sheer white unitard, perhaps doing an interpretive dance, might give this thread new life. Maybe not, but maybe.

Damn, Weedy, is this your family picture?

tselson, Weedy's people couldn't afford eyes for everybody. They had to pass around one eye, a la the Stygian witches.

I wish this thread could have ended with defrag's comment. In a way, dear friend, it did...it did.

They had to pass around one eye, a la the Stygian witches. So true. My family is EXACTLY like the Stygian witches. Wow. It is eeeeerie that you know that. Freaky stuff. We also had to wake up a half hour before we went to sleep and like the highway clean with our tongues.

TBH & jerseygirl, I stand suitably chastised. The number of comments seems rather high, and gave me the impression that we might have been a bit too preoccupied with TO. You are right; this is a nice diversion. Now I'll get back to more important things - my lunch. rcade, please don't spoil it by showing up at my desk in your unitard.

He's not making personal visits in the unitard. A saucy little photo of him, unitard clad, is the official Sportsfilter holiday card this year. Look for it in the mail about the second week of December.

He's not making personal visits in the unitard. A saucy little photo of him, unitard clad, is the official Sportsfilter holiday card this year. Look for it in the mail about the second week of December. And what a great inspiration to keep those holiday pounds off! "Season's Greetings from Sportsfilter! NOW GET YOUR ASS IN THE GYM!!!"

rcade's going to ban you for calling him fat.

you were lucky weedy. i had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before i went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work 29 hours a day down at the mill, and pay the mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "hallelujah."

At least you had singing.

you were lucky weedy. i had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before i went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work 29 hours a day down at the mill, and pay the mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "hallelujah." Yeah, and now 'ere we are, sitting and drinking Chateau de Chasilee.

Look for it in the mail about the second week of December. Howard just don't expect it to come this year. I've been promised a satin jerseygirl fan club jacket and I'm still waiting for it.

I'd rather be slapped with a fish than continue.

About the generic thing, most generic drugs provide the same exact benefits, but often come with various side affects. They also often mix much differently with other medications rather than a name brand drug. By saying this, I asn't trying to act ignorant, but apparently I did according to some of the comments i've heard above. Point is, if I made 25 million dollars a year, or even a number drastically lower than that, I would try to get the best medical care possible- especially if I was an athlete. Generic drugs have been proven to have more side affects, and oft