Booing:: not just for Canadians anymore!
posted by qbert72 to hockey at 11:26 AM - 84 comments
For the record, I'm not offended. As long as the Oilers win, that is.
posted by qbert72 at 11:37 AM on May 15
Am I the only one who thinks national anthems are stupid?
posted by HATER 187 at 11:43 AM on May 15
Am I the only one who thinks national anthems are stupid? Obviously you never watched "Mystery, Alaska".
posted by lil_brown_bat at 11:52 AM on May 15
If this happened during the US's national anthem FOX News would be boiling over with suggestions to invade the offending country. This is sad.
posted by scully at 11:56 AM on May 15
Every game I went to (all in the US, and none against a Canadien team) they only played the US national anthem. The games in Canada that I have seen on TV, they played both. I always wondered why, I guess this explains it. "I'm Canadian; they're just booing the team, not the anthem,'' Patrick Marleau said. "That's how I took it.'' That's how I take it too, but I still think it was disrespectful.
posted by njsk8r20 at 12:01 PM on May 15
So wait... Who was singing. Ashley Simpson, Carl Lewis, Roseanne? Cause if so, who could blame the fans? With those few Caveats, I think that this is disgusting and Shameful. For shame America, for shame!
posted by everett at 12:04 PM on May 15
skater, they play both when US teams are playing Canadian teams here (in hockey, baseball, and i would assume basketball as well). only time i've heard boos was during a few yankee/blue jay games, and there were only a couple jackasses doing it.
posted by goddam at 12:09 PM on May 15
Every game I went to (all in the US, and none against a Canadien team) they only played the US national anthem. Really, every Islander game I went to played both. The Canadian anthem was met with indifference but no booing. I usually sit during the anthem but it is no way a sign of politically dissent, just inebriation.
posted by HATER 187 at 12:10 PM on May 15
While I am leary of jinoistic nationalism, (personally, I feel that the Internationale unites the world in song), I try to respect people's sentimentality towards such, and have no problem giving due respect during the singing of anyone's national anthem. Disrespectful of the Sharks fans, yes, but perhaps they realize what I have been saying even after they were up 2-0, that the Oilers are going to advance! Instead of "Oh Canada", maybe it should be "Go Canada"! Just waiting for the invasion. A Canadian Quisling, (Quisling for Canada?).
posted by RedStrike at 12:11 PM on May 15
The most upset I've ever been over a song is when my brother tried to tell me Achillies Last Stand was better than Custard Pie.
posted by HATER 187 at 12:22 PM on May 15
I saw that. It was pretty tame, as "disrespectful actions" go. Certainly, I wouldn't go revisiting the War of 1812 or anything over it. I thought the fans were great. They stayed in the game long after the team they were pulling for lost the thread and gave up.
posted by chicobangs at 12:23 PM on May 15
Obviously you never watched "Mystery, Alaska". /hastily scribbles addition to list of "Things That Go Without Saying"
posted by yerfatma at 12:30 PM on May 15
Well, game number four, when the U.S. anthem was played, it was booed! So only fair to return the favor! Didn't anyone else hear that or is it just one sided?
posted by BrownDuck at 12:31 PM on May 15
The article made it sound like that was explicitely not the case, but I have never in my life watched an NHL game, so I have no clue.
posted by everett at 12:37 PM on May 15
As anthems go, Canada's got it all over the U.S.
posted by ajaffe at 12:41 PM on May 15
I guess it depends where you live as far as what anthem you like. I personally enjoy both of them and happy to be a U.S. citizen!
posted by BrownDuck at 12:45 PM on May 15
If this happened during the US's national anthem FOX News would be boiling over with suggestions to invade the offending country. Oh, it happened, more than once.
posted by qbert72 at 12:48 PM on May 15
FWIW, Teal Sunglasses and Sharkspage have apologized for the idiocy of a few.
posted by garfield at 12:54 PM on May 15
There is no reason to be sorry for anything! Oiler fans booed the U.S. anthem in game four, they did not feel anything was wrong. Get over it!
posted by BrownDuck at 12:59 PM on May 15
Meh. No biggie. If they're hockey fans with an once (milliltre?) of sense, they're not booing Canada. And as I recall at the World Juniors, the Vancouverites booed the US anthem pretty mercilessly, too. Game on!
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:00 PM on May 15
Did they apologize for wearing teal?
posted by SummersEve at 01:00 PM on May 15
I don't think it's that big of a deal either, just disrespectful. Heck, I've seen plenty of americans being disrespectful of our own anthem. Is it really that hard to take your hat off and stand quietly for a few minutes?
posted by njsk8r20 at 01:06 PM on May 15
Americans boo the Canadian national anthem out of stupidity and jealousy (because it's time to admit it, folks -- The Star-Spangled Banner sucks) Canadians boo the American national anthem out of anger over the softwood lumber dispute, immigration policies and because they know Americans will get worked up over something as stupid as a national anthem. Besides, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to take the righteous indignation of Americans about the desecration of their anthem when they allow people like Whitney Houston to sing it.
posted by wfrazerjr at 01:18 PM on May 15
Maybe they were booing the Sharks for letting the Oilers take over the series.
posted by Desert Dog at 01:22 PM on May 15
There is no reason to be sorry for anything! Oiler fans booed the U.S. anthem in game four, they did not feel anything was wrong. Get over it! This is one of the stupidest rationales in the world: the "they did it, so we can, too!" line of reasoning. Asinine views like this are better suited for eight-year-olds, and are not worth squat when discussing anything other than who hit/touched who first.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 01:32 PM on May 15
Maybe it was a bunch of eight-year-olds booing.
posted by gspm at 01:49 PM on May 15
Kinda funny. 'Specially when you consider that a buttload o'guys on both teams are, well, from Canada. Marleau's gracious enough not to give it much thought. One part testosterone, two parts alcohol and and a bag of Tim Horton's donuts, if you're lucky enough to have 'em nearby, tends to have this effect.
posted by diastematic at 02:31 PM on May 15
Are the Oilers playing the Islanders all of a sudden?
posted by mkn at 02:36 PM on May 15
Hey, the black hand, it wasn't the U.S. whining about it. It was Canada all over the news last night and newspapers this morning in California. There is no reason to be sorry for anything! The only reason it was brought up was because of people like you!
posted by BrownDuck at 03:01 PM on May 15
Uncool. Embarrassed. Just goes to show hockey doesn't belong in San Jose. Sharks lose because their fans suck.
posted by GoBirds at 05:01 PM on May 15
Canada has a national anthem?
posted by irunfromclones at 05:11 PM on May 15
What is Canada?
posted by garfield at 05:14 PM on May 15
"Americans boo the Canadian national anthem out of stupidity and jealousy (because it's time to admit it, folks -- The Star-Spangled Banner sucks)" I don't know about the jealousy part but I have never been a fan of the Anthem.. IN fact, How many have actually heard ALL of the "Star Spangled Banner" OMG it's LOOOOOONG.. BTW what is "spangled" anyways? Who even uses that phrase?
posted by blakrain at 05:16 PM on May 15
Uncool. Embarrassed. Just goes to show hockey doesn't belong in San Jose. Sharks lose because their fans suck. excuse me buddy but we do not suck . we are one of the most loyal fans in hockey to our beloved TIBURONES and have been since they started out in 91 .Now i must aplogize to all my Canadian friends in Spofi about what happend last night . and "Sharks lose because their fans suck" STUPIDEST REMARK EVER!!!! DID YOU SEE ANY FANS ON THE ICE MORON? GET YOUR MIND CORRECT BEFORE MAKING IDIOTICT COMMENTS, IT ONLY SHOWS THE LACK OF THOUGH PROCESS YOU HAVE . SHARKS IN 7
posted by trrron at 05:21 PM on May 15
OK is see your from Philly , that explains it .
posted by trrron at 05:23 PM on May 15
Learn to spell dude. Hockey rules. Stupid fans suck.
posted by GoBirds at 05:25 PM on May 15
The only reason it was brought up was because of people like you! You're absolutely right. We all had a meeting last night and decided to make it a huge issue today. Your uncanny ability to nail down "my type of person" is impressive, indeed. Put down the idiot pills and take a nap.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 05:32 PM on May 15
That is really bad sportsmanship. I really hope that san jose looses because of that. They should be really ashamed of themselves. GO OILERS SHARKS ARE CRAP
posted by united-soccer at 05:41 PM on May 15
Hockey does rule ,but the Sharks are still in it . How bout them Flyers?
posted by trrron at 05:46 PM on May 15
Two words for ya. Bobby Clarke. Two Cups. Sharks have how many? 0. None forthcoming either. Mike Ricci is cool, am sure other guys on that team are cool. Their fans still suck. Get some class yo.
posted by GoBirds at 06:02 PM on May 15
I don't think that anyone should boo the Canadian or the U.S. national anthems. Being a veteran, my feeling is that you're booing a flag that people fought and died for. But they also fought and died for your right to boo that flag and that anthem. Ironic, isn't it? That said I must also say that I've always been amazed at the energy Canadian fans have for their anthem. Almost everyone you see is singing along with it. I once had two Canadian strippers hum it for me down...there. Best anthem I've ever had!
posted by wingnut4life at 06:05 PM on May 15
How long have they been in the league 1967 ? Quite a long time for 2 cups. Give us an extra 24 years and I am sure we will geta minimum of 2 cups.
posted by trrron at 06:13 PM on May 15
Nice, every national anthem gives me chills. Props to the Vet's in the house. Veterans Stadium played a prominent role in my childhood and teenage years right into adulthood. Quite a long time to wait eh? Nice research there, how long did that take you?
posted by GoBirds at 06:14 PM on May 15
been buzy bud , almost 5 over here had to finish up some BS conf call , good talkin to you though. 100
posted by trrron at 06:26 PM on May 15
Peace. I had the day off. Its great being a bartender. Have fun in traffic.
posted by GoBirds at 06:35 PM on May 15
8 minutes aint that bad!
posted by trrron at 06:42 PM on May 15
Mike Ricci isn't on the Sharks no more.
posted by HATER 187 at 07:04 AM on May 16
I once had two Canadian strippers hum it for me down...there. Best anthem I've ever had! I think that might bump them from the "strippers" to the "something else" category.
posted by Samsonov14 at 07:46 AM on May 16
Dude, you're ruining my name. Stop it.
posted by tron7 at 09:31 AM on May 16
Samsonov, to make a long story short -- I was young, dumb, and full of c@me. They came down to Michigan to visit a spouse that was in the federal pen. Thought that they could hook up with me so when he got out, they'd have a place to crash. Once I found that out, they were outa there! Best two weeks of my life, though. Set the standard at the local bar by being the only guy in town that could hook up with two Canadian strippers by asking them to play a little two-on-one foosball...
posted by wingnut4life at 10:40 AM on May 16
In this morning paper it touched on game four and the booing while the U.S. Anthem was being played. Turns out a picture of Joe Thornton was shown on the scoreboard. We do not know that, so it comes across as booing the Anthem. We love our country and will defend it, if that is returning the favor, so be it. you can talk about being wrong or whatever, I will guarantee the Oiler fans will boo even louder against the U.S. Anthem in game six.
posted by BrownDuck at 11:34 AM on May 16
I will guarantee the Oiler fans will boo even louder against the U.S. Anthem in game six. Care to make it interesting? Let's put some money on this.
posted by qbert72 at 12:47 PM on May 16
Where are you and how do you want to do it and how much!
posted by BrownDuck at 01:18 PM on May 16
See this is what happens when you bring politics into sports: People lose all sense of proportion. Brownduck - dude, if booing the Canadian national anthem in a hockey arena is "defending your country" than I.... Well, I have no idea how to finish this sentence. That's just, well, Gah? Trust me, the Oiler faithful are hardly anti-American. They sell oodles of oil to you. That big mall they have? Yep, thanks to good old American cash. Those new malls, houses, hotels, luxury items coming? Yep, good old American cash again. The Oiler fans love you. They love everything about you. My guess is they were booing Thornton - who at this point, all San Jose fans should boo. He may be the MVP of the regular season, but disappear much, Joe?
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:41 PM on May 16
Yeah, the Sharks need to start playing ugly on the PP, or they are going home.
posted by garfield at 02:25 PM on May 16
Hey Oiler fans can you read what I am writing? Doesn't look like it! You drift off in some rage. Yeah, we do come to Canada and pay your 15+% sales tax, your $6.00+ a gallon on gas. You couldn't have your free health care without it. The Sharks already are ugly on the PP. They will improve! I hope all the Oiler fans have a wonderful evening and when game six is played I hope you are happy with your teams play as I will be with our Sharks .
posted by BrownDuck at 05:46 PM on May 16
Yeah, we do come to Canada and pay your 15+% sales tax, your $6.00+ a gallon on gas. You couldn't have your free health care without it. I haven't been to Canada in a few years, so maybe gas really is that expensive, but they give you a goddamn form to recoup costs from the VAT when you enter the country. If you're not listening, you must be pretty excited to get in. Or maybe you've never been. Either way, thanks for the valuable thoughts.
posted by yerfatma at 06:16 PM on May 16
What's a gallon? Our dollar is gaining... Gaining... Vote Bush!
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 06:27 PM on May 16
Hey yerfatma, that goddamn form is only for 5% with receipts. Thanks for your valuable thoughts. A gallon is four quarts.
posted by BrownDuck at 06:32 PM on May 16
Ooh, sorry. The answer we were looking for is: 1 gallon=3.7854 liters (quarts are not part of the metric system)
posted by njsk8r20 at 07:05 PM on May 16
BrownDuck You will find it difficult to buy gallon of gas in Canada. sorry to post off topic but sometimes ignorance really pisses me off
posted by Folkways at 07:06 PM on May 16
is that a u.s. gallon or an imperial gallon?? i always was taught 5 quarts to a gallon. i think.....
posted by tommytrump at 08:20 PM on May 16
Hey yerfatma, that goddamn form is only for 5% with receipts. Thanks for your valuable thoughts. A gallon is four quarts. When I said it'd been a while, I meant it. At the time, you could get fully reimbursed. A nickel is five pennies.
posted by yerfatma at 08:20 PM on May 16
your $6.00+ a gallon on gas Here comes the math! There are 3.785411803 litres in a gallon. One Canadian dollar is worth 0.89815 US dollars. At my local gas station, it was 0.984 Cdn for a litre of gasoline. Therefore, it would cost me $3.72 Cdn to buy a gallon of gas. Therefore, it would cost me $3.34 US to buy a gallon of gas. The going price of gasoline(according to this site) in Detroit (the nearest major US market) is $2.96 US. Much cheaper, but we are talking about the automobile capital of North America. In actuality, the gas is cheaper in my Canadian city (after all the conversions and taxes) than it is in California . So, in conclusion, pbbbbt!
posted by grum@work at 10:09 PM on May 16
HA! I love your work grum. I just want to know, have you found the end to p yet?
posted by njsk8r20 at 10:39 PM on May 16
I did. It's a seven.
posted by Samsonov14 at 07:41 AM on May 17
I always suspected as much.
posted by yerfatma at 08:00 AM on May 17
Fucking seven. I'm not surprised.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 09:25 AM on May 17
posted by tron7 at 09:34 AM on May 17
Pay up, Pythagoras. And no, I don't accept salt.
posted by garfield at 09:38 AM on May 17
Sounds like it's time for everyone to pop in "Canadian Bacon" and relax... RCMP Officer at Headquarters: I don't know what you're talking aboot, eh? Kabral: Aboot! It's ABOUT! And what's with this 'eh' business? Roy Boy: [pointing a gun] We have ways of making you pronounce the letter O, pal. Thank you IMDB
posted by SummersEve at 10:54 AM on May 17
Congratulations Samsonov14. You win a mug.
posted by njsk8r20 at 10:57 AM on May 17
I did. It's a seven. SEVEN?! But I thought it was a FOUR! /burns pile of notebooks, sobs in corner
posted by grum@work at 11:42 AM on May 17
Don't worry grum I'm sure you can find something else to do with your life.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 12:30 PM on May 17
Conclusion: Then the Devil is Six.
posted by yerfatma at 12:45 PM on May 17
No, Carolina in 5.
posted by qbert72 at 03:22 PM on May 17
OK grum, I'll give you another chance. ax2+bx+c=0 Solve for x (and show your work)
posted by njsk8r20 at 07:53 PM on May 17
If God is Seven . . .
posted by yerfatma at 08:29 PM on May 17
Yeah yeah, we know about this monkey. By the way, Edmonton fans cheered the USA anthem tonight.
posted by qbert72 at 08:36 PM on May 17
....and belted out the Canadian anthem.
posted by garfield at 08:42 AM on May 18
Funny how somebody comes in, makes some asinine statements, and an even assier prediction, then doesn't come back to take the medicine that's waitin' for him. That's one dirty duck.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 09:59 AM on May 18
Hey black hand, maybe your hand is black from having it up your ass! I do not live on the computer like you. Congradulations to the Oillers and their fans. It would not have been that close if it was not for Vesa. Your team skated circles around the Sharks. No Antheim deserves to be booed and that was nice that it wasn't! Also if you read above in the posts, I never made any predictions! Have a nice day. You will have your hands full with The Ducks.
posted by BrownDuck at 10:08 AM on May 18
I will guarantee the Oiler fans will boo even louder against the U.S. Anthem in game six please define 'prediction' for us all.
posted by garfield at 10:32 AM on May 18
I stand corrected if you call that a prediction. A prediction for me is about the outcome of the game like someone else posted. I just read in the paper that the Oiler fans were asked to be on their best behavior for the Antheim. That showed some class. I am sure the Shark fans will do the same for your Antheim.
posted by BrownDuck at 11:35 AM on May 18
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