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Tuesday, October 19, 2004

Yanks v. Sox Game 6. Here we go again.

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strike zone looks inconsistent again already... we're off to a great start.

slam-a-lamma-ding-dong!

Schilling looks good. Damn. I like that you can see the blood in his sock. That wind is nuts - Posada's was a blast, it was like it hit a wall. "You're risking a patient's life!"

Schilling will get lit up before the end of the 5th...they are getting good swings at him...

Yay Varitek!

You surely mean Lieber, Meathooks.

Bellhorn hit it out!!! It hit a fucking fan and they called it a double! Discussing it now....

They got it.

Did that fan impersonate an outfield wall on purpose, or because he was a spaz who didn't realize it would hit him?

Loked like the fan tried to catch it and it bounced out of his hands. Kind of the anti-Steve Bartman.

well this sucks.

Yeah, but Schilling has only one K- as a strikeout pitcher, him not getting the strikeouts means the Yanks are getting too many good swings on it. But fuckin' A if that Bellhorn- Bellhorn!- homerun doesn't give a MUCH needed cushion.

well this sucks.

damn it. something is wrong with this site.

Schilling got out of the fourth. Limping too. How much longer will he be effective and does he get releived at the right time, which is very soon.

Bullshit. How long will LIEBER last? He's already thrown a lot of pitches.

I may regret booking that flight to NY for the World Series!

more woes with RISP. It's april all over again. I'm debating going to bed.

Is this really happening? I'll be honest, 4 runs at Yankee Stadium feels like we're behind. We need at least 6 more...

Schilling looked much better in the fifth. *sigh of releif* He usually gets stronger in the later innings, so if the ankle allows this will be a very good game.

More importantly, Schilling has 66 pitches and hasn't blinked. If his ankle were going to bother him (in terms of stamina) it would have by now. He's a good bet to go long, and possibly all 9, unless the Yanks start straightening out those foul shots. Which is why I share BoSoxFan's concern that a bigger lead would be nice- they say Wakefield's being saved for tomorrow, but I don't like the season riding on a tired Arroyo or Lowe holding a 1 run lead if Schilling blinks in the next couple of innings.

The Yanks have come back from 4 a bunch of times this season. The Sox need to be up by 6 to have a comfortable lead.

Schilling's on so much nembutol, he can't even feel his foot. This better not go into extra innings. I had three pints of beer already.

There is blood pooling in his ankle. This is like the climactic scene of The Natural, with the blood stains on his jersey! Not a good start to Jeter.... ow, stomach queasies... :(

I haven't eaten dinner yet- I'm trying to decide if I should go now and catch the last inning, or just wait it out and hope this doesn't go extra. But unlike games 1-3, I haven't drunk a drop since Saturday! Maybe that's the secret- the Sox can't win if I drink!

Must say, no matter what happens: Crazy mad props to Schilling.

I haven't eaten dinner yet- I'm trying to decide if I should go now and catch the last inning, or just wait it out and hope this doesn't go extra. Do what I did, go to the bar and get dinner there (and beer).

And Bellhorn is the hero? He phoned it in all season, set K records, then golfed one off a stunned fan. This better not end with some crazy shit 5 run rally with 2 out in the ninth. My wife hid all sharp instruments and took my belt...

Has Fox made the obvious pun yet about Schilling's red sock?

Well if the Yanks rally Bellhorn can still be the goat. Inning ending DP with bases loaded lest we forget. should be like 6 or 7-0 right now.

Man, I'm sick of "God Bless America."

Yay Bernie! w00t!

That's our good ol' reliable DH Sierra...reliable for a loud out or a whiff. Sheesh. I'm glad I started drinking at 8.

Yay Schilling! w0o+!!!!!1

I'm glad lbb is posting more frequently on this thread- that must mean the Sox are about to blow this wide open! :) Oh crap, I didn't just jinx us, did I? Oh crap... sorry, Baseball Gods, my hubris was wholly unintended!!

Schilling has done incredibly well. Amazing performance, and that ankle must be nasty... The guy's a hero/idiot for pitching on that!

Suxx to be Francona- pull Schilling, and they tear you apart if the tired bullpen can't hold it. Don't pull him, and they tear you apart if he lets it go. That said... no reason he couldn't send Schilling with the 1-baserunner rule: have Arroyo ready to go at a moment's notice, and the first runner to reach against Schilling is his last hitter. Why not try to get another 1, 2 outs against him? Little's error last year was in having Martinez there, but without a quick hook!

Put your teeth in and bite me, Hal. They've got Heredia, they don't need me.

Schill is out? Awww crap. Now it's time to start the countdown. Arroyo will be good for about 8 pitches, Myers for 3. How many outs is that? Jesus, here we go...

Have faith brother BoSoxFan - Arroyo has turned it around

Hal: totally agreed, he should be in on the 1-runner rule, especially since it is the bottom of the order. This is going to be a scary ride for six more outs...

Folks, Curt Schilling is a real man.

Obviously you leave Schilling for the "one on your pulled" scenario. Arroy had a pretty good performance last night. Get Timlin up and have Folke ready. Not a bad position to have.

Then again, maybe they don't want to break the poor guy - I mean he pitched on an ankle you or I wouldn't be walking gingerly on.

Jeter is so clutch.

Crap! And Myers is the only one up in the pen.

Wow. Has Miguel Cairo got a set of wheels or what?

Vomit. This is why you let Schilling burn up a hitter or two before he gives up a double like that.

Unless there was a medical reason, Francona is going to get roasted tomorrow, win or lose.

Oh boy can they really goof things up.

You have GOT to be fucking kidding me.

Chandler: (rubbing his temples) Oh, no-no-no-no-no.... Joey: (pats Chandler on the leg) That's good, just keep rubbing your head. That'll turn back time.

cheater!

A-Rod is a fucking asshole.

Way to go Umps- you have shown integrity in reversing two calls you got wrong initially. Fucking amazing that A-Rod did that. What kind of bush league crap is that?!

Sheffield will probably nail a moonshot and tie it up. Argh, I can't take this. My ulcers have ulcers!

So what if Rodriguez is out, the run still scores, don't it? One out, that's the number of fingers you need to pick your nose, you dummies.

Definitely bush-league.

Sorry, A-hole, you can't draw a fumble in baseball. Wrong fucking sport, you cheat.

(not you dummies, the dummies in the black suits on the field who can't figure it out)

All that aside, does Minkiewicz know how to play 1st? Why does he come to play the ball when Arroyo is running for it. Then he has nobody to throw to and we get bizarre plays like this.

no. the run doesnt score. jeter doesnt go from first to home on an out at first.

Sorry, A-hole, you can't draw a fumble in baseball. Wrong fucking sport, you cheat. So where does knocking the ball out of the catcher's mitt in a play at the plate figure in all this?

Hey kudos to the umps!!! Now I hope Timlin has been throwing all this time.

All that aside, does Minkiewicz know how to play 1st? he uh... has a Gold Glove. I guess he does know. :)

Total bush league. Most talented player on the planet and he cheats. I was already aggravated with the amount of time that A-Rod was preening himself at the plate during that at bat. As a Rangers fan, I feel great shame at ever having liked the guy.

This game is too good. Two reverse calls? Busted ankle "New England Baseball Lore"? A Mark Bellhorn home run? A year-long starting pitcher on in the eighth with your regular season set-up guy sitting picking his ass? Leiter trying with all his mighty control not to smack McCarver upside the head? This is outstanding shit. P.S. ARod is not a fucking asshole. ARod is simply a fucking Yankee.

right call, though I don't quite get why that's not allowed but takeout slides and running over the catcher are. and WHY THE FUCK is Jeter sent back to first? He was on second by the time this happened, and had it not happened, he still had second safely. Is it some kind of penalty? Ridiculous!

no. the run doesnt score. jeter doesnt go from first to home on an out at first. And he doesn't go anywhere? What, did he turn into vapor or something?

What an odd game.

I love you God(s)

yes, vapor.

It was interference lbb, so Jeter can't advance (as in you can't throw him out trying to score after the ball has been slappped from your hand). Knocking the ball from the catcher is different as he is right there and the only thing you are really doing is running into him. If A-Rod ran into him and knocked the ball loose it's kosher. The reachingg out and swatting the glove arm, not so much.

So what if Rodriguez is out, the run still scores, don't it? One out, that's the number of fingers you need to pick your nose, you dummies. No interference he gets maybe one base. Kind of a judgement call by the umps where he ends up.

not that it matters, because Sheffield has forgotten how to hit. Seriously though. Call the out, and let the runner stay on second where he belongs.

Why should Jeter benefit from another batter cheating?

No lbb, because interference makes the ball dead, and the runner out. As such, Jeter does not get the benefit of the extra bases, and stays at 2nd (which he would have had with the out play). Otherwise, we'd see this play all the time- guy on first, bunt it down the line then tackel the pitcher. Hey, the run still scores, right!? :) Damn, Arroyo. Good job, we can survive that run- now Francona, you better not send him out for the 9th! Go Sox! Pad that lead!

So where does knocking the ball out of the catcher's mitt in a play at the plate figure in all this? You can collide with a catcher and jar the ball loose, but you can't swat at the glove. You'll notice that players will drop a shoulder and try to pound it out of the catcher, but not one of them ever makes a grabbing motion at the glove. Yankee fans at the stadium can complain all they want, but when they see the replay at home tonight, they'll realize it was the right call. Unless, of course, they are blind. Throwing stuff on the field? That's about as bush league as what ARod did.

BoSoxFan: you are three outs too early for that... (says the man who screamed at people who celebrated with 40 seconds left in the NCAA national championship game in 2001...)

You can collide with a catcher and jar the ball loose, but you can't swat at the glove. Which is what I meant. A-rod's chop was straight out of Madden 2K5.

Me: He's out because that's not part of his normal running motion. Wife: It would be if he (air quotes) ran like a girl (/air quotes). You know, with the pinwheeling arms?

Mrs. Grum cracks me up.

That's great - next year you're going to see players running like that to establish precedent

A-Rod is not a real man.

It was interference lbb, so Jeter can't advance (as in you can't throw him out trying to score after the ball has been slappped from your hand). Fair, I guess. Knocking the ball from the catcher is different as he is right there and the only thing you are really doing is running into him. If A-Rod ran into him and knocked the ball loose it's kosher. The reachingg out and swatting the glove arm, not so much. Well, the arm was in the base path -- you could see that, because Rodriguez had to double back to get to the bag. And as for the catcher thing, by knocking the catcher over, you could be stopping him from making a second play elsewhere (it's been known to happen).

This pretty much puts a nail in the "Varitek should have taken his mask off before feeding ARod a catcher's mitt sandwich" coffin.

Mrs. Grum is funny, and original.

BoSoxFan: you are three outs too early for that... Actually I am taking it one out at at time. A Rod being called for interference is something that does not happen to the Red Sox in this type of game in my and my father's lifetime. I was thanking the Gods for breaking the string. They still might lose, but they won't be cheated out of it.

Oh, what now??? Cops with riot gear???

Bring in the riot squad!

Is it interference if a New York riot cop swats at the ball?

I wonder how goddam's doing. She's at the game.

Riot gear! Somewhere, Randy Levine is wishing he never made such a fucking stink about it being unsafe at Fenway last year during Game 3.

"A baseball game under martial law." - my brother At this point, no matter what happens, I'm just laughing.

This has now reached the stage of farce.

Remember when this game looked like it was going to be finished before midnight? Those were good times....

To all those fuckholes who always bang on about English soccer fans... HAHA! Yeah, look at your own damn sports. Cops in riot gear?

Heh, it's like ten minutes to go in the Premier League. Except with the possibility for 'off the baton' ground rule doubles.

look at your own damn sports. Cops in riot gear? This is different. This is Yankees vs Red Sox.

Only in NY Drood...I guarantee you won't see that nonsense in St. Louis or Houston. Unless of course people start lobbing urine bombs...

Does this change the rules? What if a ball hits a cop? If a cop touches the ball, is it interference? If ARod swats again, do the riot police get to hit him with nightsticks? So many questions.

Tanyon - strike zone is down a little bit, sweetie.

What tieguy said. This is a complete farce. And to make it even worse, look at the riot cops. They're not paying the least attention to the proto-riot, wherever that is -- they're all craning to see past each other to watch the pitch.

Well, what do you expect? They've got good seats.

A-Rod pounded with nightsticks... OH YES! I'd PAY to see that!

I hope all those cops are Mets fans.

Drood: U.S. sports aren't without their embarrassments, but for the most part we confine our violence and rioting to post-game celebrations. Is there a single U.S. pro sports franchise that has attracted its own hooligan club?

Jesus, for once, go in order in the 9th. Just go down.

Interesting side note on intereference rule: If the ump deemed a double play was possible, both runners could have been called out. Wouldn't that have been fun. Jeter was on first, not second bern. Perhaps you were thinking back to Cairo being on second when jeter knocked him in on his hit

Moment of truth. Let's just make sure neither Bucky Dent nor Aaron Boone are in the Stadium.

So they brought the cops out in the top of the ninth to protect the home team, and took them off the field once the visiting team took the field? Makes sense.

This is funny really. I come from sports where I'm used to the officials fucking up and making the WRONG calls. Kinda cool to watch a sport where they make the right ones.

RCade: Not saying soccer doesn't have it's problems. It's just usually US sports are portrayed by the media over here (I'm in Canada) as being pure as the driven snow when it comes to that sort of thing.

walk, good idea. Hard to watch this.

Buck: A lead off walk. McCarver: As bad as a home run. He's such a fucking knob.

2 away!!

Oh god, Sierra. Loud out or whiff.

Speaking of "whiff", did Leiter say it tonight? Patrick admonished him in an interview today for not saying it yet.

Why is Foulke trying to get Sierra out away? He should bust him inside.

Finally, a swing from Sierra.

oh god don't walk again. gulp

Man alive, is this exciting!

Wow.

Wow.

Just realized another thing. Why were the series set up to give the AL the extra day of rest after a game 7? More of the NLCS getting screwed.

jinx.

jinx!

HUZZAH!!!

WOW, what a thriller

What a relief... I thought Foulke was going to give me a heart attack.

Lordy. What a pitch. And we get to bed before 1 AM, too. Still a ridiculous pathetic waste of a game, but at least we get some sleep. See y'all tomorrow night.

woo. game 7. drama.

*faints*

double-jinx!

I can't believe the Red Sox blew it, when they were just one strike aw- what?! Oh my god.

Unbelievable. Another Game 7. The baseball gods really want to make Boston suffer.

I have aged at least a decade in the last 3 nights.

pivo: I would guess that it either alternates every other year, or maybe it's based on the winner of the All-Star game too? Just a guess though...

Seeya tomorrow!

Wow. Congrats Boston fans.

Why were the series set up to give the AL the extra day of rest after a game 7? More of the NLCS getting screwed. With respect, I think the AL champions will need an extra week of rest to get over this series.

just wondering, with like circa 600 real-time comments surrounding these red sox and yankees games whatever happened to the idea of using flickr for this game chat purpose?

Unbelievable. Another Game 7. The baseball gods really want to make Boston suffer. We know. Thoe were my first words to my fiance (I feel obligated since she clearly has Stockholm Syndrome thanks to me). I just want to point out I am a mute of necessity, not malice: I haven't looked at any of the game threads since the Sox started winning. Not that anyone's missing me, just sayin'. Attention college economics majors throughout the Northeast: a decent term paper could be made out of studying economic productivity in Northeastern United States during this October. Also, what kind of riot were those cops prepped for? Some sort of all-you-can-eat todo at Sizzler, I guess. And why are their helmets from the DOT? I'd like to personally thank Curt Schilling, Trot Nixon, et al for turning great playoff moments in Sox-Yanks history into uncomfortable moments by personally thanking Jesus. How the hell did we get *two* calls reversed against the Yanks in The Stadium? Somewhere Jose Offerman just kicked his dog. Sox fan on local Fox news affiliate: "Oh, it was ay-mah-zin! My hot stopt!"

I thought it was a pretty unobtrusive display of belief. Plus this was awesome: "We just did something that's never been done before. There's no reason we can't do it again tomorrow."

Oops, I'm watching the press conference now, yer right fatma.

I didn't mind Schilling's comment to Fox so much (didn't hear Nixon's), it seemed heartfelt. However, I did notice that, after Orlando Cabrera singled in the 4th, when he got to first base, he crossed himself and pointed to the sky. Just out of curiosity, with the earth's orientation and point in its rotation at that time of the day, how did he know that he was pointing to heaven instead of, y'know, the other place? Seems like you'd need an astrolabe to get that one right.

That was blood on his sock. They stitched his tendon to something else, so it wouldn't move. Someone said it before. Curt Schilling is a real man.

This was what the idiots at FOX kept calling the "high top" shoe...

Eh, don't get me wrong: I've been known to beg the Heavenly Host in moments like this, but it just gives me the hives when he answers every question with how he became a Christian 7 years ago. Maybe next job interview I'll relate everything to when I ate a sandwich in 1988. All the same I just dug up my SoSH password just to say thanks.

I'm sure SoSH is a riot right now. Any goodies? [Friend called the riot incident 'baseballs of mass destruction'.]

Is it just me, or does A-Rod always look like he's wearing lipstick?

The two greatest words in sports: Game Seven