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November 17, 2005

McNabb might be going ... groin ... gone: Philly QB Donovan McNabb has been told to have surgery to correct the sports hernia he's been fighting most of the season. The operation would most likely knock him out for the remainder of the year and put former Detroit Lion signal caller Mike McMahon in the starter's role.

posted by wfrazerjr to football at 01:25 PM - 67 comments

I predict a whirlwind love affair between the city and Mr. McMahon. It'll be a Christmas Classic, like Miracle on 34th Street. First no one will believe in him. Then a small boy starts to notice. Then that little boy will get the attention of some adults. Once enough people have noticed, this being Ill-a-Delph, they'll beat the living shit out of Mike. FINIS

posted by yerfatma at 02:06 PM on November 17

He Who Shall Not Be Mentioned will immediately go on every talk show that will have him, telling everybody who will listen that McMahon has a stronger arm than McNabb, is tougher than McNabb, is more Irish than McNabb, eats more Chunky Soup than McNabb, and was the real reason he came to Philly in the first place.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 02:13 PM on November 17

Prior to 2004 McNabb was a solid, tough QB, with accuracy problems but legs that could make up for that. He exploded in 2004 which could be because: a) he finally acheived his potential b) he benefitted from T.O.'s talent (shudder) c) he was motivated by Rush Limbaugh (double shudder) My bet is that he never reaches the 2004 level again. He comes back; he plays decently, but his legs and groin no longer allow him to compensate for his accuracy issues. He plays a few more years then slides into obscurity. I hope I'm wrong because I like Donovan. He's a tough competitor and a class act. But if I was to place a bet, it would be that his time in the upper echelon of NFL QBs is over. Off topic: How many ex-Lion QBs have started games this year. McMahon, Frerotte, Batch...

posted by dzot at 02:14 PM on November 17

I'll be in debt to Donovan for a long time for throwing that pick to Roy Williams Monday night. Thank you, Mr. McNabb, thank you very much.

posted by Desert Dog at 02:19 PM on November 17

McNabb has been hurt all year. He has no running game. He doesn't have a great receiving group. I think he's a very good quarterback who basically had all of the things that helped make him great disappear on him this year. He's not a guy you want attempting 40 passes a game, but there are maybe 3 quarterbacks in the league who are. The Eagles need to run the football more, and they've needed to for awhile. I dunno how serious his injury is, but if he's done for this seasons I suspect he'll be doing just fine (read: Pro Bowl) next year.

posted by chmurray at 02:24 PM on November 17

Off topic: How many ex-Lion QBs have started games this year. McMahon, Frerotte, Batch... You forgot Harrington...oh wait, that's next year...

posted by MeatSaber at 02:57 PM on November 17

I predict a whirlwind love affair between the city and Mr. McMahon. He's got those cool shades and the headband thing going for him. Who's not gonna love a guy that starred in his own music video.

posted by YukonGold at 03:35 PM on November 17

mcnabb is a much better than average qb in all aspects. iv seen him throw pinpoint passes through two defenders for the touchdown more than once...when he was healthy. and his running was superior...when he was healthy. even his awareness was far better than normal...well, u get the picture. if he can nurse himself back to old form, he should still be one of, if not the best all-around quarterback in the league. but in football, that is a big if.

posted by 15yroldkid at 03:56 PM on November 17

I'll be in debt to Donovan for a long time for throwing that pick to Roy Williams Monday night. I had the cover until this unfortunate pick. Looked like he threw it right at the guy...

posted by STLCardinalfan at 04:03 PM on November 17

that really sucks i hope McManon is just as good as McNabb Go Eagles Beat The Giants Giants suck big butt they cant do crap except pout like T.O.

posted by Dav at 04:03 PM on November 17

I am going to enjoy watching Philly piss away their season. That'll teach ya that if a superstar wants to be paid, you are better off paying him, then maybe, MAYBE he might behave. But if you dont pay him you know he's gonna act a fool, whats he got to lose? I know all you Eagles fans hate TO, but dont you wish he were on the team now, atleast you would have one star on offense with DM gone. But oh well enjoy those Ls

posted by Drallig9399 at 04:30 PM on November 17

That'll teach ya that if a superstar wants to be paid, you are better off paying him, then maybe, MAYBE he might behave. I don't know much about the economics of the football but it seems that he agreed to a contract with the Eagles for much less than he was worth. Can't blame the Eagles for that one. The real shame here is that Donovan is class act you just hope he can recover and come back the same as before the injury.

posted by HATER 187 at 04:43 PM on November 17

Why is Philadelphia going to beat the crap out of McMahon? AAAAAHHHHHHOOOOOO Goood Buddy, Yes AH AH AH, YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!

posted by Turbo at 04:47 PM on November 17

Four words about McNabb: Madden Curse strikes again!

posted by JJfromPAinMI at 04:59 PM on November 17

Giants suck big butt they cant do crap except pout like T.O. Next you'll be calling them big poopy heads. (For any of you who think that would be a good idea, you might take a look at the New User Guidelines, with particular attention to the bit where it says, "This site is not a place for trash-talking fans to repeatedly proclaim that their team rocks and someone else's team sucks.")

posted by lil_brown_bat at 05:04 PM on November 17

Where's Phil Hartman when we need him? Image hosted by Photobucket.com

posted by wfrazerjr at 05:41 PM on November 17

I agree lbb, please dont disgrace this thread people. Remember, this thread is not about TO, or anyones favorite team. My bet is that he never reaches the 2004 level again. He comes back; he plays decently, but his legs and groin no longer allow him to compensate for his accuracy issues. He plays a few more years then slides into obscurity. Dzot i almost want to agree with you, however i think mcnabb will pull a randle cunningham. His career will be thought over, and then he will hit the top again even if for only a season or 2 most likely with another team. Forget the madden curse. Its the philly curse. Philly cant keep a superstar. Moses malone, Wilt Chamberlin, Charles Barkley, Reggie White, Peter forsberg for lindros?I cant believe Iverson has stuck around as long as he has. The city needs another Dr.J, Steve Carlton, Bobby Clarke. Winners.Does Forsberg have 1 more in him?

posted by RZA at 05:46 PM on November 17

McNabb showed alot of class in dealing with the infantile TO. And he's been playing hurt all season and still putting up great numbers overall. But I'm not worried, I've got McNabb, Eli Manning AND Big Ben on my fantasy team so I'll be alright (and I'm sure you were sooooo worried). During the Monday Night game they said Philly hasn't won a sports championship in football, baseball, hockey or basketball since 1983 (I think) and is the longest time a city with all four sports has gone without a championship so maybe IT IS Philly.

posted by fenriq at 06:20 PM on November 17

Where's Phil Hartman when we need him? Mistuh Hartman, he dead.

posted by alumshubby at 06:29 PM on November 17

The horror! The horror!

posted by DrJohnEvans at 06:49 PM on November 17

McNabb went to Mt Carmal HS in Chicago. Raised by good parents, who clearly taught him how to act. That being said. He is the most overrated QB I have ever seen. A great defense, good RBs, and decent WRs. These are the reasons why McNabb is even talked about. That and the oblivious east coast bias ESPN has. Steve McNair and Donovan McNabb are the same damn player.

posted by whodat at 08:35 PM on November 17

I am going to enjoy watching Philly piss away their season. That'll teach ya that if a superstar wants to be paid, you are better off paying him, then maybe, MAYBE he might behave. But if you dont pay him you know he's gonna act a fool, whats he got to lose? I know all you Eagles fans hate TO, but dont you wish he were on the team now, atleast you would have one star on offense with DM gone. But oh well enjoy those Ls Comment icon posted by Drallig9399 at 4:30 PM PST on November 17 You're a flippin idiot. Where were you when all the Sportsfilter talk were going on about TO? Now? Here's you comments. There is no "I" in team, idiot!

posted by baxterndino at 08:53 PM on November 17

Personally, I'd like to see the Birds rally around McMahon the same way they did around Koy Detmer and then A.J. Feeley three seasons ago. I don't know if anybody has noticed in the past, but this team tends to not throw in the towel when their QB goes down. I guess its that Philly pride thing.

posted by CorBor42 at 10:35 PM on November 17

I know all you Eagles fans hate TO, but dont you wish he were on the team now, atleast you would have one star on offense with DM gone. But oh well enjoy those Ls Comment icon posted by Drallig9399 at 4:30 PM PST on November 17 F- t.o. I can't even capitalize his initials he's such an insolent fool. I wish someone would smear a piece of feces on that cry baby's face. McNabb is a real team player and he played very well given the circumstances. Lets not forget all of t.o sucess in Philli was partly because of McNabb.

posted by T$PORT4lawschool at 12:50 AM on November 18

I don't know what McNabb & the Eagles are going to do, and I know the Big Hearing is today, but frankly I can't wait for this As-The-Stomach-Turns to end. Maybe next week. I'm hoping.

posted by chicobangs at 04:26 AM on November 18

Some Eagles want TO back, recent reports say.

posted by graymatters at 11:53 AM on November 18

From what I've seen, those Eagles are defensive guys, mostly, all of whom only pal around and roll with him and don't face the brunt of his constant undermining and deeply shitty attitude, every goddamned day. If Owens had said the same things about Trotter he'd said about McNabb, a lot of his so-called friends would be taking turns leaving turds in his locker.

posted by chicobangs at 12:29 PM on November 18

I would like to see T.O. play again for somebody. I wish the media could be banned from covering him. As I have said before, most of this latest crap has been Media generated and hyped. The fact is that several Eagles have come out and said that they would like to have T.O. back playing with them......

posted by daddisamm at 12:35 PM on November 18

If T.O> were to come back, he certainly be somebody to rally the troops around. Mc Nabb needs to hang it up for the season. That hernia things is a painful injury......

posted by daddisamm at 12:39 PM on November 18

those Eagles are defensive guys Without TO and a healthy McNabb, isn't that really all the Eagles have left?

posted by graymatters at 01:01 PM on November 18

Their O line is still pretty good, and Bryant Westbrook is no slouch, so McMahon isn't going to look like a total tool like he did in Detroit. Owens hasn't spent the last 18 months openly manipulating the morale of the defensive corps; in fact, I'd bet they're the ones he's gone to to bitch about the offensive guys. Of course the defensive guys are going to want him back. He liked hanging with them. Even Trotter, who should know better, is falling for this crap. If Owens plays in an Eagles uniform again, it's the end of Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia. The team ain't big enough for the both of them. God, I hate this topic.

posted by chicobangs at 01:22 PM on November 18

f u lil brown bat u r a poopy head apparently T.O. should be cut from the NFL right know i want him back on the team to but i dont really care for him either

posted by Dav at 02:14 PM on November 18

Five scatological references in one thread. Impressive.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 02:44 PM on November 18

You're a flippin idiot. Where were you when all the Sportsfilter talk were going on about TO? Now? Here's you comments. There is no "I" in team, idiot! Yeah and their ain't no "we" either. Free agency has ruined the game!!!!!

posted by Run's House at 02:46 PM on November 18

f u lil brown bat u r a poopy head So sayeth a former Bumper Stumpers champion.

posted by yerfatma at 02:49 PM on November 18

Dav's this week's funnest troll.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 03:16 PM on November 18

troll?

posted by tron7 at 03:44 PM on November 18

dam it mcnabb is out i could rd their future no more playoffs r superbowls appearances they goin to need some good defense and runnin backs and a new wide reciever since they cuttin T.O.

posted by defrag3x at 03:50 PM on November 18

Dav's this week's funnest troll. I'm not sure if Dav is a troll or a 10 yr. old who keeps sneaking on mommy and daddy's computer.

posted by willthrill72 at 04:02 PM on November 18

Good. I hope the Eagles lose the rest of their games. Serves them right for dogging T.O. the way they have. They think they're better off without him. I don't think winless is better. Ask Jeremiah Trotter...

posted by at 04:07 PM on November 18

There may not be an "I" in team, but there sure is one in "WIN"...

posted by at 04:09 PM on November 18

There may not be an "I" in team, but there sure is one in "WIN"... TO's comment (speculation): "Yep, but there ain't no 'I' in LOSERS."

posted by graymatters at 04:18 PM on November 18

What are the odds Dav and Tony_Touch are one in the same?

posted by willthrill72 at 04:27 PM on November 18

f u lil brown bat u r a poopy head Dav, lbb may be a poopy head but you are 100% poopy. And so's your okay, thought better of that

posted by billsaysthis at 04:33 PM on November 18

words words words verb noun noun adjective adverb sentence sentence sentence poopy troll blah i have just made more sense than 47% of the last 23 posts.

posted by RZA at 07:30 PM on November 18

f u RZA what r u a clinically trained statistician w/ exemplary skills in grammar and sentence construction r sumtin

posted by chicobangs at 07:35 PM on November 18

Maybe the Eagles will take Joey Harrington off the Lion's hands. Then we can kill Jeff Garcia and actually start the quarterback who still has no blemishes on his career, Dan Orlavsky!

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 07:44 PM on November 18

2 bad i am 20 and i am on my computer to willthrill72

posted by Dav at 07:48 PM on November 18

wilthrill72 is this weeks funniest troll u mite wonna stop making fun of yourself like that

posted by Dav at 07:52 PM on November 18

Dav, your lack of self-awareness is about to wear thin.

posted by chicobangs at 07:58 PM on November 18

dont talk to me anymore please

posted by Dav at 08:11 PM on November 18

Uhm, Holmes? After like the age of 6, the holding someone's hands and slapping them with 'em while yelling, "Why are you hitting yourself," gets old. Wanna have a contest to see who can hit softest?

posted by yerfatma at 08:11 PM on November 18

ya lets go i told u people dont talk to me anymore

posted by Dav at 08:13 PM on November 18

posted by yerfatma at 08:19 PM on November 18

you guys crack me up. rush was right

posted by azdano at 09:41 PM on November 18

About today's Tom Sawyer, a modern day warrior? Or about Donovan being overrated?

posted by yerfatma at 09:46 PM on November 18

about 2112

posted by azdano at 10:00 PM on November 18

shut up thatweirdguy

posted by Dav at 06:56 AM on November 19

This reminds me of one time when I was in Manhattan the day after Thanksgiving with some friends, and (through a lack of planning and navigation) we ended up walking through PETA's annual anti-fur-and-stuff demo. PETA had got half the street and were yelling slogans and insults at the harassed biggest-shopping-day-of-the-year crowds who were trying to make their way up and down Fifth Avenue in half the sidewalk space that they'd normally have (because you gotta put the cops somewhere). They collapsed like wet cardboard when the irritated and surly bypassers started to yell insults back...stood there with their lower lips quivering, and then one intrepid animal rights activist in leather shoes and belt blurted out, "Shut up!" It brought down the house, lemme tell ya.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 08:20 AM on November 19

Dav... who are you, really?

posted by chicobangs at 10:31 AM on November 19

someone

posted by Dav at 11:00 AM on November 19

Dav, were you dropped on your head or something?

posted by willthrill72 at 03:46 PM on November 19

F U?....next you'll ask what comes after fo(4) in counting ya damn rebublican

posted by RZA at 04:34 PM on November 19

were you dropped on your head or something to willthrill72 what are you talking about RZA

posted by Dav at 07:17 PM on November 19

I think alot of people need to get back on their medication.

posted by skydivemom at 08:30 PM on November 19

Oh, thank you, chico, for this image:

posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:16 AM on November 20

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