From the article, it sounds like the Dungy family went to considerable effort to give their kids the most normal upbringing possible, to instill in them a sense of responsibility and proportion and keep their heads on straight. I'm sure, having seen his son to the age of 18, Tony Dungy was looking forward to many years of relating to his son as an adult, of a relationship that would have changed but also grown richer, as they both came to appreciate new depths in each other. There are no words to describe the extent of that loss. Good on the Colts for a classy and utterly supportive response. May God bless the Dungy family and help them in their grief.
It is awful to suggest that this was a suicide without any knowledge. As someone who nearly died of an aneurysm (which strike without any warning and are fatal about 50% of the time), I am well aware of the potential for death to strike suddenly. It sounds like the Dungy's have a good support network, which they will certainly need to get through this awful affair.
Chico, the reason you stated for not wanting kids is actually a big reason why people do have kids. If losing the child would make you feel that awful, think how wonderful having the child would be. And a majority of the time parents do survive their children.
DudeDyksta, AMEN to that my point exactly, almost lost a sister that way without any warning, and she never had one health issue. Thank the lord we still have her and the child she was carring,they were only given 10% to live a clot to the brain. Agian your right children bring you so much joy, nothing in the world is like it. Remember all of us here today are blessed, and Merry Christmas to all ya!!!
The talk of suicide has been coming from the sheriff's department and now the Medical Examiner's Office. Terrible tragedy. I lost a friend to suicide while I was in college, and I'm no closer to understanding it now than I was 18 years ago.
My thoughts and prayers are with the Dungy family. Losing a parent is hard enough, but losing a child must be devistating. A person always knows in the back of his/her mind that they will someday be laying their parents to rest, but you never think that you will have to lay your child to rest. That would be something that I would have a very difficult time doing. I hope that everyone here hugs their loved ones all a little tighter and tell them how much you love them.
Thanks, rcade. Like I'm just gonna make some shit like that up. Fuck, gimme a break!
Desert Dog no one was accusing you of making something like that up. Nothing had been confirmed yet, you did say the sheriff's was saying that, not confirmed that. And I think no one here wanted to add salt to the family. So breath nothing bad attended on what you were saying.
Adding salt to the family?
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It's amazing to me that even in a thread as sensitive and upsetting as this that people will criticize someone for something like how they worded a phrase. Country Girl obviously meant that talking about suicide "added salt to the wound" that the family is coping with (certainly we can all agree that suicide is a more difficult death to deal with emotionally than a natural death). And chico I'm sorry if my previous post came off as sounding like I thought you had just made that up. Obviously, you would not do so.
countrygirl, "breath nothing bad attended on what you were saying"? What the hell does that mean? And DudeDykstra, it wasn't chico's post, it was mine. But chico obviously makes stuff up. Have you read his posts? (just kiddin' chico)
It's a shame that there is always someone looking to be nasty, Desert Dog I just wanted you to know I wasnt trying to offend you. Thanks DudeDykstra for your comments and knowing how people truley feel. Your heart is warm. I hope I dont need to tell anyone what I mean. Take care and god bless ya all!!!
My bad DD. Meant to apologize to you. And since I have taken on the role as countrygirl's interpreter, I believe she meant to tell you that nothing bad (towards you) was intended by her post, just like I was saying that nothing bad was intended by my post, just that we both thought that the suicide talk was a little premature. I'm not sure what the "breath" part meant, although since I called you "chico" maybe we're both just having trouble remembering who said what.
Countrygirl lighten up, I was just messing around. I didn't mean to offend you, sorry. My sense (or lack of) humor can be abrasive sometimes. Anyway, Merry Christmas to all the Spofites. Hope ya'll get something good under the tree. But you gotta admit, that line you wrote didn't make much sense. And it was kinda funny:)
Ok Im cool, no worries, Its just a very sensitive subject. OK i'll also admit the country girl lost in la should say something for the way i speak or write, your not the first to be confused.A true country girl living in so. cal. All forgotten! Have an awsome xmas
ps cant we all just get along, im feeling the love
Can we show a little respect for the subject of this thread? You want to play footsies, go do it in an old Terrell Owens thread.
Sorry, TBH. The phrase tweaked my funny bone. I should point out, however, that I was hardly mocking James Dungy's death in commenting on it, so let's not start making it into something it was not.
TBH, your'e right. This subject is rough. But life goes on, you can't dwell on death. Nobody was disrespecting anything about it. Some people, such as myself, deal with things easier with a little humor. Ease up, vato. Go grab yourself a cold one and chill out. Besides, footsie can lead to other things. Knowwhatimean?
I'm confused like always. I didnt think anyone here was taking the death lightly or showing any disrespect whats so ever. I think all of us was actually showing our respect to the family and sending them our blessings.
Some of these comments are ridicoules.The family lost a member.Tony Dungy is more than a class act,he is someone everybody would be glad to call a friend.I would imagine the rest of his family would also fall into this catagory.From Brandon,Fl,God bless the Dungy family
And in an instant, one of the great seasons in the NFL ceases to mean a thing. My heart aches for the Dungy family.
to the dungys,,,our prayers our with you from green bay
God bless Tony and his family. I know from his relationship with the Lord Jesus that He will help him and his family through this time. To all, we each have a different way of showing our concerns. Merry Christmas
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I apologise for addressing a slightly different topic (and I mean no disrespect to Tony Dungy or to this subject matter as a whole) but I have a question. I do not have a relationship with "the Lord Jesus." Will I be worse off if one of my family members dies than Tony is?
l_b_b, Desert Dog, countrygirllostinLA (and others), I know you meant nothing personal, and neither did I. I just felt that this was one thread that in no way deserved to go askew. Wasn't trying to come off as an enforcer or anything, just very on point with this topic. Merry Christmas...God Bless Us All.
DudeDykstra, the religion angle might be a bigger deal here than in most places because of the Dungy family being so deeply religious themselves. Just a thought.
As a Colts fan, I wish you all would stop bickering. This family and team have lost a very important part of their lives, and most of you are acting like it's almost nothing by complaining about others. Have you not learned a lesson from this? An 18-year-old boy just died from what could be suicide or something else. Who knows? And who cares? All that matters is that he is gone from his wonderful family who must now cope with such a huge loss. Show some respect to a great man and father and to his family, please, for the sake of one Colts fan who is very saddened by this hardship on everyone involved.
bsukmm13, are you reading this thread, or another one? I see no bickering here whatsoever. I don't see any (let alone "most") posts in this thread that are in any way disrespectful.
Should I start Payton this week or what? Dungy will try to let some anger out by whoopin' Seattle's ass.
I'm sorry if my comment came across as disrespectful. In fact, I tried to insure that wouldn't happen by beginning it with an apology. I was merely trying to pose an interesting philosophical question, which tragic events like this one tend to pose. There rarely are threads like this one which give way to such interesting conversation. However, I am relatively new to this site and don't want to step on any toes. I sympathize with Mr. Dungy, his family, and all those who have lost loved ones. Happy holidays to all, and all the best to you and yours.
wow! Peace be with them
DudeDykstra, we step all over each others toes. That's what makes this one of the best conversation-sports sites. We all state our opinion sometimes and it usually ruffles someones feathers. But on the next subject, you're agreeing with the same person who previously called you a moron. If a person has a thin skin, may I recommend teletubbies.com. Happy Holidays!
most of you are acting like it's almost nothing by complaining about others. Have you not learned a lesson from this? Did I miss the part where someone here knows the Dungy family? Otherwise it's all professional mourners in this thread. In sum, it is nothing to us. But oh, for the family, it is something else entirely.
to the dungy family, keep the faith. our prayers are with you. peace from houston. f
To the Dungy Family, From a hometown friend and extended family member, I keep you in my prayers everyday. Love, Ericka (Mikel S. Brown's niece)
...... Speechless...... To the Dungy's GodBless you and to the Colts sorry about your season it all seems to mean nothing right now. Also I am so sorry about saturday because the Seahawks will show no mercy for your coaches horriable loss. They to are on a mission to break important club records. But back to the seriousness of this thread I am speechless, and I can't imagine what that family is going through right now.
People should stop saddling other users with their expectations of how this discussion should be conducted. Any time there's a high profile death in the sports world, it's likely to come up for some speculation and other commentary here that would not be considered respectful.
sad stuff, real sad stuff heartbreaking, I dunnoh what i would do in his case, and we all know a loss to San Diego doesn't help much either, lets hope he can get over the hump and keep winning games.
we all know a loss to San Diego doesn't help much either I really don't think Tony Dungy gives a rat's ass about that game right now, or ever will again.
lets hope he can get over the hump This isn't some temporary setback. He lost a child. Possibly to suicide. While he wasn't at home.
Yeah, like his gold fish died or something!
Why couldnt it have been Terrell Owens?
Michael Smith of ESPN has written an affectionate column about Dungy and his family that provides a little insight into their lives.