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Monday, March 27, 2006

Article VI: Online Meta-Correspondence. The undersigned agree that a minimum quality threshold shall be established for all links posted to SportsFilter.com, beginning with a strict punishment applied to users who post links to the same old Page 2 stuff again and again.

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If you don't take the "ESPN Hollywood" re-education camps threat seriously, then may God have mercy on your soul. They have more humane ways of "re-education" but they won't use them...

I would also like the media to stop using the phrase "All-American" to mean good-looking, white kid, and to stop discussing "bulletin board material" that somehow gets professionals up for a game. On this site, I would like for all posters to cease any and all posts relating to how greedy athletes are and how much money they make vis-a-vis the common man.

These guys read us, don't they?

If I were them, I'd read us.

Heck, I'm not even them and I read us.

I read them, reading us. Wait - what?

i'd also like to add an amendment to the "Tired Phrases" section: starting every analyst's response with "no question about it."

It needs an amendment that says: We will not mention how long it has been since we talked about any of the above topics. It got on my nerves last football season when one of the annoncers would say "We've gone 3 1/2 quarters without talking about..."

Athleticism is another term that needs to go.

I know that you know that they know what we know....ya know?

Good one, njsk8r. You know, I can point to at least four Spofi member blogs that are in compliance with the Ban already (or who make only minor infractions from time to time). And I haven't even looked that hard ... but I don't think that ESPN.com is in danger of losing any advertising revenues. (on preview: I'm with bobrolloff, too)

I can't believe I just read that whole thing. (There were 57 episodes of ESPN Hollywood? And is it still running, now that Mario Lopez has moved on to Bolder and more Beautiful things? It isn't, right?) If I thought for one minute that Hruby or anyone else would stick to such a thing, I'd stand and applaud. But come tomorrow, Stephen A. Smith will still have a job, of that there can be no doubt, you can be sure of that, everybody accepts this as the truth, you know it to be true, there can be no doubt about that, it's the accepted truth, you know that that's a fact. And Skip Bayless will still be gnawing on Woody Paige's ankles like the antidote's in there somewhere. And, and, and and and. Could we make every everyone who wants to talk sports either in Spofi or anywhere read this and sign it as a condition of being able to talk about sports in public? That would be so great.

Arguments over whose fanbase/players/coaches/alumni are more or less "classy," "classless," or containing various amounts of "classlessness" are punishable by wind sprints.

Also, I always spelled it "letch." That's what I get for not using the dictionary.

Does Hruby realize maintaining this agreement means he is out of a job? Chico- I couldn't agree more. Tomorrow the same old stuff will get written, talked and pandered about. I will sign and someone please let me know how to enforce it.

I will sign and someone please let me know how to enforce it. two to the dome for those who violate it. you're the first on the chopping block sean salisbury steak with joe morgan on deck and skip bayless in the hole.

Don't even get me started on Skip Bayless, the self-important sob. According to him, there is no one who knows anything but Skip Bayless.

I would also like the media to stop using the phrase "All-American" to mean good-looking, white kid, and to stop discussing "bulletin board material" that somehow gets professionals up for a game. "All-American" is in the same category as "scrappy". And don't get me started about that again...

"All-American" is in the same category as "scrappy". Did someone say Stubby Clapp?!? As for the list, agreed, but this will of course mean having Stuart Scott put down. I'll post a PayPal link for donations.

This is all sports media, journalists, ESPN, etc. have to cover. They've all fallen into the "Entertainment Tonight" and "Inside Edition" mode of looking for these big, gaudy, over-hyped stories that have proven to generate business and attention. There are just too many people covering sports and not enough juicy topics to keep them all happy and employed. If the individuals in charge of specific professional sports would do something constructive to deal with the Barry Bonds, T.O., Ricky Williams, etc. maybe they could get back to actually covering the games themselves. People all thrive on controversy and scandal, and without it, we become bored. Is it tired and played? Yes. But most times, on SportsFilter, when someone tries to post a story regarding a lesser-known topic, hardly anyone responds. The next T.O. story will generate 130 responses, all the same as previous ones, with a few "Dead horse" references thrown in. I don't see it changing.

dyams, I've always taken it on faith that the quality of a front page post has nothing whatsoever to do with the number of comments. In fact, if something has 100 or more comments, generally it's a discussion that's gone to hell. Some of my favorite posts have had only a handful of comments, and Quite Frankly(TM), they're what make this place livable. If I wanted all-scandal-all-the-time, I'd only get my sports info from the accepted Espen outlets. I'm as guilty as anyone else of not commenting in every thread I find interesting, and I resolve to work more on that in the future. But if I see a thread about Barry Bonds with 85 comments in it, I'm not going to even bother. My life is too short to wade into that cesspool of ignorance one more time.

Can we not have this agreement signed before you can post on spofi like the questions we have now. Violation would bring bannation. Can we also ban posting a new FPP when there is a currently running one about the same subject/person on the front page?

I'd also be happy if we were able to enforce an "innocent-until-proven-guilty" rule. No matter what I think about anybody who may have/may currently be/may in the future be juicing, injecting, creaming, clearing, or snorting the crushed pineal glands of virgin holstein calves, I don't know for fact what the fuck they're doing, and neither do you, and neither does SpoFite #15,000, so just shut the hell up about it.

Scrappy

How about "He's a gamer?"

The pointless arguments were why I stayed married

You do realize this precludes about 92.1.6.7% of the posts on Sports Filter? Whatever will we talk about?

Is that an IP address or did I miss a crucial update for my decimal system?

Scrappy Priceless. The guy can't even get Taveras' name correct, yet he apparently holds him as an example of Eckstein-like scrappiness.

yerfatma: That may be the dumbest opinion column I have ever read. It was so painfully stupid that it was like a direct punch to my cerebral cortex. I survived it, so whatever doesn't kill me, only makes me stronger.

I've always taken it on faith that the quality of a front page post has nothing whatsoever to do with the number of comments. In fact, if something has 100 or more comments, generally it's a discussion that's gone to hell. That's it exactly. When someone sees 100 posts on a Barry Bonds/Steroid rerun, I really believe they think it's a good reason to make another post the next time another inane story hits the net. I enjoy some of the ridiculous, laugh-inducing, senseless comments these posts attract, but if we stopped responding to the same-old, same-old, maybe they would go away (that's my SpoFi dream).

I would add to the phrase ban the word "drained" when describing a basket or putt. Some sportscasters must say it 15 times in 5 min broadcast!

I would add to the phrase ban the word "drained" when describing a basket or putt. Some sportscasters must say it 15 times in 5 min broadcast! I'd like to make an exception to this rule: if the ball (golf or basket) actually circles the rim once (or a couple of times) before falling in, that visually suggests water going down a drain, and therefore the phrase actually makes sense.

I'd like to make an exception to this rule: if the ball (golf or basket) actually circles the rim once (or a couple of times) before falling in, that visually suggests water going down a drain, and therefore the phrase actually makes sense. True, when it makes sense it works. Other then that....

If you take the cliche out of the sports writer/announcer, will you still have a sports writer/announcer?

I, for one, would love to find out.

Me too

The undersigned agree .... Uhh, can someone tell me how to get ink off of my computer screen? I used a TO sharpie, but now I've changed my mind!

You do realize this precludes about 92.1.6.7% of the posts on Sports Filter? Whatever will we talk about? I'm sure I'm not alone in believing that SportsFilter was much much better when it had exactly 92.1.6.7% fewer front page posts.

I'm as guilty as anyone else of not commenting in every thread I find interesting Same here, except I don't fell guilty about not commenting on something I don't really know anything about. I do read just about everything posted though. I appreciate the insight other members give on those sports, even if there are only 10 comments. When someone sees 100 posts on a Barry Bonds/Steroid rerun, I really believe they think it's a good reason to make another post the next time another inane story hits the net. I think, dyams does have a point there. The guidelines do suggest "Find links that attracted 10 or more comments..." Unfortunately, they don't comprehend the last part of that sentence "...and take note of their characteristics." Perhaps we do need to list the topics that have been played out.

You know the kind of person who doesn't really know anything about the topic, may or may not have skimmed the link and just wants to make a smart arse comment? Well, that's my technique.

Me too.

Let's not forget: "He's a real competitor."

More focus on athletics and less on personal issues surounding life. Sports-stardom has been a huge reason that blood thirsty talent has for a large part been replaced with a good show of charisma and nice looks.

This thread runs well...

Is that an IP address or did I miss a crucial update for my decimal system? Ha!

Let it be known that BullpenPro did the following: * Read posted link. Noted that the article denounces stories about "going to a game with dad, Field of Dreams making you cry, sports as a silent bond between emotionally distant fathers and hungry-for-affirmation sons." Recognized that BullpenPro's profile is an excessively long violation of this rule in every regard. * Read thread. Could we make every everyone who wants to talk sports either in Spofi or anywhere read this and sign it as a condition of being able to talk about sports in public? Realized that 99% of BullpenPro's public AND private sports comments failed to meet the rather rigid standards of the proposed document. Acknowledged that a relatively high percentage of BullpenPro's love of sports involves the human drama, and that BullpenPro was easily induced into discussions about the human element of sports, the good and the bad, often slipping into the "tired" players and story topics because the high volume of overdone media coverage doesn't make the story itself less compelling, only the coverage. In fact, if something has 100 or more comments, generally it's a discussion that's gone to hell. Recognized that BullpenPro's last five FPPs averaged over 100 comments and had previously thought maybe that was a more positive indicator. I'm sure I'm not alone in believing that SportsFilter was much much better when it had exactly 92.1.6.7% fewer front page posts. Calculated the likelihood that BullpenPro has made contributions among the other 7.8.3.3% (not high -- around 0.0.1.3%). * Acknowledged that BullpenPro referred to himself in the third person and assumed that, though not stated, it was a very obvious infraction that had been somehow overlooked. * Felt all eyes suddenly falling on BullpenPro. * Slowly backed towards door.

Terrific, BullpenPro. You are truly the class of the 3kers.

Burn bullpenpro! Though I don't really agree with the article because if we followed that there wouldn't be much of a SportsFilter. Hell, everyone would probably end up going here.

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