FanDuel - WFBC

October 07, 2005

Done.: Chicago overcomes Boston to move on to the ALCS.

posted by jerseygirl to baseball at 06:43 PM - 83 comments

The curse lives on. Time to fish that piano out of Willis Pond.

posted by charlatan at 06:45 PM on October 07

We just couldn't keep up with Chicago. I'm pulling for the south side. Carry on, win the ALCS, and get a WS championship for the first time since 1917. Get that monkey off your back, ChiSox. It felt really good last year.

posted by jerseygirl at 06:48 PM on October 07

You know, this doesn't hurt all that much at all. Oh, sure, two years ago it would have. Last year's World Series victory makes this acceptable. After all, it is unusual for a team to win back to back World Series. Well, except the Yankees. So, while I would have loved to have seen my Sox go to the series again, I am content to see the White Sox win and will root for them in the ALCS. Well played, White Sox.

posted by Joey Michaels at 06:52 PM on October 07

How can a team called the White Sox wear predominantly black socks?

posted by rcade at 06:52 PM on October 07

Reasonable Red Sox fans what's this i see? Surely I must be dreaming.

posted by fade2244 at 06:54 PM on October 07

Reasonable Red Sox fans what's this i see? Surely I must be dreaming. You... you just joined for christssakes.

posted by jerseygirl at 06:55 PM on October 07

yeah i know i just ment in general>

posted by fade2244 at 07:11 PM on October 07

What Joey Michaels said. I truely don't feel that bad about it. Last year took out a world of sting from this type of defeat. Go ChiSox.

posted by sixpacker at 07:24 PM on October 07

May I just take a moment to say AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA? Thank you.

posted by mr_crash_davis at 07:29 PM on October 07

Red Sox: you did a good job, you had a good year, see you next year. White Sox: splendid work. Hang onto that most excellent El Duque. The boy's money in the bank. (was that a dramatic bottom-o-the-sixth or what????)

posted by lil_brown_bat at 07:30 PM on October 07

White Sox: splendid work. Hang onto that most excellent El Duque. The boy's money in the bank. quite right El Duque is a for real big money pitcher.

posted by fade2244 at 07:39 PM on October 07

Yeah, it just isn't the same any more. It was a good, competitive season, things could have gone better, but the BoSox are still the defending World Champs until the end of October, so I'll enjoy it for a while longer, then focus fully on football and hockey. Thank you, 2004 Red Sox, for breaking the ugly cycle, at least once in 86 years! With that said, I smell troll. Can't be far away.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 07:39 PM on October 07

Francona deserves a lot of credit (I'd avoid Boston talk radio over the next week if you share that opinion) because things didn't go according to plan and they still enjoyed a lot of success. Big offseason upcoming for a team had a lot of fatal flaws. Outside of Varitek, Ortiz, Schilling and Nixon that team could have a very different look come April. Also, can someone put Rick Sutcliffe in with Joe Morgan and Tim McCarver and sink that ship. How awful. And in general, I'll look forward to analysts not bringing up Derek Lowe and the three games he actually pitched well in last year, because that's all they seemed to remember about him.

posted by YukonGold at 08:08 PM on October 07

Yeah, there's something really appealing about those pesky White Sox. They've got some serious mojo, methinks.

posted by rocketman at 08:09 PM on October 07

Don't focus too hard on football New England The Pats are done. You know, in the course of a little more than a year, the Patriots won two Superbowls, the Red Sox won the World Series and the UConn Men and Women both won the NCAA championship. I can go a few years now without a victory. In my life, I had one sports year where every team I rooted for won. What more could any sports fan ask for? So, yes, it would be wonderful to see my teams keep winning, but, damn, what a year that was! I hope that every fan gets to experience something like that and if it means I need to wait a few years between championships, I can live with that.

posted by Joey Michaels at 08:11 PM on October 07

Black Hand said: With that said, I smell troll. Can't be far away. And was immediately followed by member-since-October-3rd fade2244 with: Don't focus too hard on football New England The Pats are done. Right in one, BH.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 08:11 PM on October 07

Chicago overcomes Boston? Are you on crack? Overcome? You're out of your mind. You had a nice season, your effort was great, but the better team BEAT you. Honestly, I'm tired of Yanks/Boston coverage. I'm tired of the Easter Sports Network praising the effort of the BoSox who where out gunned, out pitched, and out classed in this series. Pay your respects, wish us luck, and stand aside. We'll take it from here. Let's Go-Go White Sox!

posted by pmoutz at 08:11 PM on October 07

again i say caught that the first time. thanks.

posted by YukonGold at 08:12 PM on October 07

Yeah Joey would love to see Lion, Tigers and UofM hoops sweep post seasons don't see it happening so i rag on the people that happened to have the good fortune to experience it.

posted by fade2244 at 08:13 PM on October 07

Fair enough, fade2244. And go ChiSox!

posted by Joey Michaels at 08:14 PM on October 07

go chi sox only if angels happen to do the improbable and beat Yankees. At which point I'm all about go Bronx Bombers.

posted by fade2244 at 08:16 PM on October 07

But YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOAARD, YES! I hate to gloat, or sound like a troll or drive by, But go Chi-Sox. Good guy's DO wear black.

posted by volfire at 08:18 PM on October 07

I'm tired of the Easter Sports Network Yeah, me too. Who gives a shit about what Peter Cottontail is doing, anyway?

posted by lil_brown_bat at 08:30 PM on October 07

You know, this doesn't hurt all that much at all. No, it really doesn't. A repeat would have been... I dunno, a bit vulgar. A bit Yankeeish. The best team won, in a way that matched their superiority. I hope this is the White Sox's year.

posted by etagloh at 08:41 PM on October 07

I hope this is the White Sox's year. If the Yanks end up playing them for the ALC, and the Yanks get mowed down by El Duque pitching the way he pitched tonight, I'll have nothing to do but cheer for the White Sox. How can you not like stuff like what he did in the 6th?

posted by lil_brown_bat at 08:47 PM on October 07

volfire: I think it's high time that you Palehose fans get to gloat. Hopefully us Cub fans will get to one day. After this win and a Canes win in a shootout, the only thing that will make this a perfect night, in a sporting fashion, is a Yankees loss.

posted by NoMich at 08:52 PM on October 07

Well, congrats White Sox- now that the Boston 9 have their long-awaited crown, we were excited to win this year but not desperate like in the past. It would be nice to see Chicago take it all this year, put their own ghosts to rest. And if Boston doesn't go all the way in 2006 then maybe the Cubs, eh? :) Sox fans are calm simply because we're not going to be greedy like that other team and their psycho hosebeast fans are about winning every. single. year. Besides, 3 of the 4 past years have been Patriot Superbowl wins, we've got plenty of Sox post-season appearances the last few years including that magical 2004 World Series win. The Celtics are for crap but we can't be pissed what with 16 titles in 50 years. As Joey Michaels expounded, there has been plenty of success in New England of late, and with the Dream Season we have nothing to truly complain about for some time. Here's to Ortiz winning the MVP, at least... I hope! :) As for the remainder of the playoffs... so long as the Yankees don't win, or for that matter the Cards, I'll be okay. A Chicago-Houston series might be nice to see this year- every other team has been recently rewarded (I'm kind of writing off the Padres, sorry San Diego fans). Angels got theirs in 2002, Atlanta had one in '95 and has been in the playoffs every year, St. Louis is the second winningest franchise in baseball. That leaves Chicago and Houston as teams needing a little relief!

pmoutz: You had a nice season, your effort was great, but the better team BEAT you.
I don't know that Chicago was the better team (heck, by Pythagorean standards, Cleveland should have had the best record in the AL this year!), but they were two very good teams and Boston just slumped at the wrong time. Chicago only had a 4 game lead over the Sox, playing in a weaker division. A couple of hits here or there games 2 or 3, and this series could still be going on. The White Sox might well have won, and I congratulate ChiSox fans for their post-season success so far... but it being a sweep is simply a case of bad timing for poor pitching and quiet hitting. For example: the unstoppable juggernaut of the 2001 Mariners, 116 game winners and team seemingly incapable of losing a 3 game series or not coming back in dramatic fashion, got beat around by the Yankees in the ALCS that year. Anyone who says that this means the Yankees were clearly the better team, however, is batshit crazy.

posted by hincandenza at 08:55 PM on October 07

A well coached series by Ozzie. They just outplayed and outpitched us. Now I root for the Angels and Braves (transplanted Bostonian).

posted by usfbull at 09:29 PM on October 07

White Sox: splendid work. Hang onto that most excellent El Duque. The boy's money in the bank. (was that a dramatic bottom-o-the-sixth or what????)

From this humble Red Sox fan, I congratulate all the White Sox Community on your great victory!

Terry Francona put it the best when he said "we were out played, out hustled......" something along those lines.

As for "El Duque", the guy is most definitey clutch. Let's not forget the commendable work done by Ozwaldo Guillen, simply outstanding job. Ozzie made all the right moves, everything worked for him. Many second guessed him, but when you win 99 games in a year, and get the White Sox their first ALCS since 1917, you have to admit that the man knows what he's doing, no fluke. He helped build the current team along with his general manager.... he brought most of the current pitchers to Chicago on his own, and turned them into one of the best (deepest) bullpens in baseball today! I would not be surprised if Ozwaldo gets Manager of the Year! Now, all of red Sox nation will be behind you - we hope you take it all! Best wishes ........

posted by zippinglou at 09:29 PM on October 07

Pay your respects, wish us luck, and stand aside. I think I did. In the first post after I created the thread. see... We just couldn't keep up with Chicago. I'm pulling for the south side. Carry on, win the ALCS, and get a WS championship for the first time since 1917. Get that monkey off your back, ChiSox. It felt really good last year. But fuck it. If Chi Sox fans are like this... like you... then maybe your city, your team and your fans don't deserve it or to have the fans of the losing team to be gracious to you, or wish you luck. Go gring your ax somewhere else. Your trollishness is only outshined by your inflamed arrogance. And Boston was OUTCLASSED you say? HAH! The hell with it, I'd rather root for the Yankees instead.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:33 PM on October 07

way to come to your sense jerseygirl GO YANKEES!!!!

posted by fade2244 at 09:34 PM on October 07

gring! I meant "grind" heh.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:36 PM on October 07

<<<<has numerous typos will try to improve

posted by fade2244 at 09:37 PM on October 07

I guess this thread is starting to turn sour but I want to thank everyone on here for the kind words about my White Sox. Your graciousness is surprising given the world of sports and sports talk, with all the put downs and trash talk. It's tiring and ugly. When the M's put us to sleep in '00 I was upset with my team, a little stunned, but what could I do but tip my cap to Seattle? I appreciate what I read here and feel good that a few of you are impressed enough with this small-ego club to get behind the White Sox in their next series. I just hope we are lucky enough to bask in the same joy (and relief) you Red Sox fans did in 2004.

posted by Brett at 09:49 PM on October 07

from the ESPN recap page Stadium: Fenway Park, Boston, MA Attendance: 35,496 (97.8% full) not 100% full? what, here's the first playoff game back in Boston after clinching the 2004 WS, is ALDS baseball a waste of time?

posted by gspm at 09:57 PM on October 07

way to come to your sense jerseygirl GO YANKEES!!!! Oh, just go away. You're a total embarrassment to Yankee fandom.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:00 PM on October 07

No just the difference east-coast and mid-west. By THE WAY THE YANKEES ARE LOSING!

posted by volfire at 10:09 PM on October 07

The typos hurt StarFucker...

posted by StarFucker at 10:13 PM on October 07

How could the Yanks lose with such people as Spike Lee and Regie Miller in da house? WHOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!

posted by volfire at 11:04 PM on October 07

Ha ha ha! (points at Yankees)

posted by hincandenza at 11:12 PM on October 07

go chi sox only if angels happen to do the improbable and beat Yankees. At which point I'm all about go Bronx BombersI really don't see what is so improbable here fade? The Angels are the only team that has a winning record against the Yanks in their own stadium. btw...angels just beat up johnson. 2-1 series, go angels.

posted by sangu at 12:11 AM on October 08

thank god the red sox are done, now the white sox can carry the poor us torch

posted by bharr_77 at 12:11 AM on October 08

Reasonable Red Sox fans what's this i see? Surely I must be dreaming. btw...angels just beat up johnson. 2-1 series, go angels. I really don't have a dog in the fight b/w the BoSox and Yanks, but I'll say the fact that Tony Graf got one of the biggest applauses during the introduction in tonight's game and Randy Johnson was nearly executed when he got pulled says at least *something* about the fans in attendance at tonight's game. That said, fuck 'em both. Go Cards.

posted by Ufez Jones at 12:16 AM on October 08

Randy Johnson was nearly executed when he got pulled says at least *something* about the fans in attendance at tonight's game. so what, exactly, does it say about the fans in attendance?

posted by goddam at 12:43 AM on October 08

so what, exactly, does it say about the fans in attendance? Well, as I said, it doesn't *exactly* say anything. It just says *something*. Graf commited an error that in all likelihood swung game 2 and, in hindsight, the series to the White Sox, but he was still applauded, more so than any other Red Sox player (according to the play by play men of ESPN radio) during the intros. In the swing-game, Randy Johnson goes out and throws a pretty damned bad game. The fans at Yankee Stadium were ready to give him the concrete shoes. This is not the first time that the Yanks have signed a player that has performed at a less than hoped for level and been publicly villified for it*. In fact, it's been quite often not just this season but pretty much par for the course in recent memory. I've never seen fandom so fickle on a player-by-player basis - on the whole - than the Yank fans. I'll grant this: Graf's response to his error has been about as good as any damned fine PR firm could've done. I'm sure that merited him bonus points with the BoSox fans. I just can't see Cano committing the same play and getting the same response earlier tonight. YMMV. If your quibble is with my annotation of "in attendance", well, chalk that up to my Econ/Stats background and unwillingness to stereotype people. I was only able to judge reaction based on the people in attendance that I saw/heard (depending on which inning it was in either game), and there was a distinct difference. That's all I'm saying. If you did actually make it to tonight's game, goddam, then I'm quite jealous, as it was a *fantastic* baseball game, disregarding the result (and please note that I'm a Rangers fan that has been consistently frustrated by the LAA'A's for far too many seasons now). *disclaimer: This is far from exclusive to the Yankees and there are more exceptions to this rule than I can even begin to count, even including my roommates' fingers and toes.

posted by Ufez Jones at 01:06 AM on October 08

As I twins fan, I really dont like the White Sox. They are sually pretty easy to hate. Of course, this year has been different and now I should maybe "root a little" for them and I just cant do it. At least the Red Sox have "lovable idiots" who make you laugh. Watching Manny going after a fly ball is priceless. So I am very sad to see the Red Sox out. No the big question will be: Will the White Sox choke? I sure hope so! I also hope thay the Angels will take care of the Yankees!

posted by daddisamm at 01:28 AM on October 08

fair enough Ufez. (sorry if i came off as overly defensive. i did go to the game and as you can probably guess i'm not in the greatest of moods.) i guess i'll start by giving you my perspective on this. i went to 61 home games this year and have heard just about every player on that team get booed at some point. yes, we are a fickle lot. but in my opinion, there are different type of boos. the ones that guys like jeter or arod or randy (or even rivera earlier this year) get are the "we know you're better than this" kind of boos. we're not going to run you out of town, we're just not pleased with your performance at this particular moment. the next time they step to the plate or whatever, they still get cheered. then there are kind that guys like womack or lawton or embree get. they're the "we never want to see you at the plate during a crucial moment in the game" or "we never want to hear 'now pitching, number 46'" boos. then there's the special boos like the ones that giambi got in the beginning of the year. they're the "you fucked up big time and dug your own grave and we're going to boo you until you prove that you belong here" boos. as for Johnson, what should we have done? listening to a post-game report, randy expected to get booed. i don't think we hurt his feelings. we're not going to give him a hand just because he's a future hall-of-famer. and it's just not the NY way to be silent. he fucked up in a big post-season game. if he has a chance to pitch at the Stadium again this year will he get booed again? who knows? if that happens he will have probably pitched game 1 or 2 of the alcs in chicago. if he lays an egg again he probably will hear it again his next time out. if he pitches a good game then he will be cheered. and if he never pitches until next season i really don't think the booing will carry-over for that long. actually, both Cano and ARod made big errors in wednesday's game. Cano's wasn't as costly as ARod's but he has made quite a few this season, a couple that even cost them the game. i don't remember him ever getting booed for it the next time he appeared in NY. ARod's error lead to the run that tied the game. but tonight he got the same ovation he always gets. again, i'm not trying to be antagonistic or whatever, and i'm sorry if any of this reads that way. i'll be at tomorrow's game as well (uh, make that today's game). i hope to be in a better mood when i get home. but if they lose, they lose. at least i'll have most of next year's tickets paid for if the rest of my playoff tickets go unused;-)

posted by goddam at 02:29 AM on October 08

as a fellow NYer, I have to agree with goddam about the different types of boos that come from the fans. it's a NY thing. if you're not from there, you wouldn't understand. not trying to sound snobbish, just trying to explain. well put gd!

posted by nymutt at 03:35 AM on October 08

Listening to the Fan (WFAN 660) AM in New York last night), I think it was Steve Somers, he said, and I quote: "This series will always be remembered as the time Tony Graffanino pulled a Bill Buckner."

posted by the red terror at 07:41 AM on October 08

Personally, I will always remember the series as the one with the bases loaded where Johnny of Nazareth struck-out on a pitch at his shoes.

posted by the red terror at 07:42 AM on October 08

All of this good feeling is creeping me out. Isn't there a single Red Sox fan who is crushed by the fact that your team forgot to show up in the postseason, giving up its chances to repeat with a whimper? I was devastated when the Rangers were mathematically eliminated from the pennant in early July.

posted by rcade at 08:02 AM on October 08

I don't know if that was a call-out to hear people whine or a genuine "how are you guys feeling?" Either way, I'm pretty sure the end result wouldn't go over well. No one wants to hear about the Red Sox or their fans or anything, no matter how intelligent you try to make the discourse. I'm done.

posted by jerseygirl at 08:18 AM on October 08

I'd tend to think this would be easier for Red Sox fans than if they'd had things in hand and let them slip away, a la so many previous years. Yes, there were a few pivotal moments where the Red Sox could've turned things around (Graffanino keeps the glove down, Damon checks his swing just a bit more), I got the impression that the White Sox won it, as opposed to the Red sox losing it. Now, the Yanks just have to lose today and I'll be satisfied...

posted by ajaffe at 09:05 AM on October 08

it's just not the NY way to be silent. Bingo. And things around here are rarely golden. Great fans though and Yankee Stadium is a must for any sports fan coming to NY.

posted by Texan_lost_in_NY at 09:18 AM on October 08

Now, the Yanks just have to lose today and I'll be satisfied... Not to call you out specifically, ajaffe -- you're just the latest in a series -- and not that I haven't been guilty of schadenfreude in my life, but good god, were all of y'all's teams eliminated back around the time of the summer solstice that your only source of pleasure now is to relish another team's defeat? And you're still hanging around in the baseball threads to share the sour grapes? It's a big wide world of sports, folks, and there are plenty of corners of it where you could get a happier life right around now.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 09:22 AM on October 08

To all the BoSox Fans that are being so gratious in defeat: THANK YOU! Its nice to finally win a Post Season Series (BEEN AWHILE) and having a chance. To tell you the truth the only people that could possibly understand how this would feel root either for the Cubs, Chisox, or Bosox, and the 2 Chicago teams have not felt the Championship win to break out of the drought. So I as a ChiSox fan wanted to say, Great year( 3 Actually ) and thank you for your support! Hopefully we can break this hex like you did last year.

posted by S SIDE HITMEN 05 at 09:52 AM on October 08

I think it was Steve Somers, he said, and I quote: "This series will always be remembered as the time Tony Graffanino pulled a Bill Buckner." He's 99% wrong on that. People may remember the error, but in 10 years I doubt anyone outside the top 1% of the fan base will remember who it was.

posted by YukonGold at 11:41 AM on October 08

All of this good feeling is creeping me out. Isn't there a single Red Sox fan who is crushed by the fact that your team forgot to show up in the postseason, giving up its chances to repeat with a whimper? I'm not crushed, but I'm pissed. Yes, last year was great, and I can now die happy, but they went out without a fight this year. I don't know if it's because of the last two years and they ran out of gas, or maybe they got old, or maybe lazy, but this was a pitiful series. And the white sox played great, but the red sox certainly helped them in every way possible. White sox won it, boston didn't lose it? What a bunch of crap. This was a flawed team. To basically lose schilling, and foulke for the year, have embree fall apart, trade pedro and lowe and have clement fall completely apart in the second half (some replacement), it's a miracle we made it to the playoffs. Where would we have been without the 42 year old ex yankee? So we became one dimensional, which means even more pressure feel on the offense, and they weren't even close to the task. Which gets me to the sixth inning. Am I watching the same game as everyone else? El Duque is being treated as the second coming. Here's what I saw: Bases loaded, no outs. Varitek has the count 2 balls one strike. Swings at the next pitch about chest high and weakly pops up. Should have been 3-1 with the bases loaded. Graffanino at bat. Full count, bases loaded, one out. Swings at 2 ball fours then weakly pops out. The second possible ball four wasn't even close. Bases loaded, two outs, full count, damon at bat. Swings at obvious ball four. El Duque should be the goat today. With a little patience at the plate, we have several runs in and the big guns coming up. But no one talks about that. I haven't read one thing here or any place else that says the truth. Varitek Graffanino, and Damon flat out couldn't get the job done, even with a pitcher that was begging to walk them. How much more can you ask than for a pitcher to continually throw ball four with the bases loaded? To me, that was much worse than any error at second base. Bases loaded, no outs, no runs, you deserve to lose. Now, all of red Sox nation will be behind you - we hope you take it all! Best wishes ........ posted by zippinglou Um, no. Not sure who elected you president of red sox nation, but this sox fan is rooting for the angels if they can get by the yankees. Regardless, should be an interesting off season for boston.

posted by justgary at 11:42 AM on October 08

[Fenway Park] not 100% full? what, here's the first playoff game back in Boston after clinching the 2004 WS, is ALDS baseball a waste of time? I think I may actually have to write a column to get this all of my chest, but that was an amazing game in two ways. It was amazing to attend a playoff game and it was amazing to sit there in the middle of "the best baseball fans on Earth" and feel like an ass for making noise. There were like 3 other actual fans up in the right-field tables, assuming Doug Flutie is a real fan (Yukon, he didn't catch a ball this time). All the other times I've gone to Fenway were for regular-season games. We arrived late (middle of the first) a couple of times (got there 10 minutes early yesterday). People were still showing up in the 4th. As "real" fans, we talk a lot about bandwagon jumpers here on Sportsfilter. I can stand people who start paying attention after the All-Star break; people who take tickets from work and go just to be seen are killing me (in the interests of full disclosure, my wife won the tickets at work). At this point, I think a lot of "level-headed" Sox fans would take a rebuilding year or two to clear out the chaffe.

posted by yerfatma at 12:36 PM on October 08

Can someone tell me what happened in the first inning when Posednik got sent back to first after advancing on Wakefield's wild throw to first?

posted by yerfatma at 01:08 PM on October 08

the home plate umpire called time out before wakefield threw the ball.

posted by goddam at 01:13 PM on October 08

LBB, Well, uh, yeah -- I'm a Mets fan.

posted by ajaffe at 01:19 PM on October 08

YEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted by redsoxrgay at 01:58 PM on October 08

I'm a Mets fan. my condolences. there's nothing quite like inter-city schadenfreude.

posted by goddam at 06:55 PM on October 08

Now, all of red Sox nation will be behind you - we hope you take it all! Best wishes ........ posted by zippinglou Um, no. Not sure who elected you president of red sox nation, but this sox fan is rooting for the angels if they can get by the yankees. Regardless, should be an interesting off season for boston. posted by justgary at 11:42 AM CST on October 8 It's a comment generated from from my compettive spirit. I believe that if I get beat, I want the guy that beat me be the best... at least I can say I lost to the best. When my Red Sox lost to the White Sox, I want them to take it all.... at least I can say, we got beat by the Champs..... This aside from the fact that I'm Venezuelan, and Ozzie being the first manager from my home country to ever make it this far, makes me want to root for him now! Go RED SOX (forever) but for the rest of this season..... GO WHITE SOX!!!!

posted by zippinglou at 09:25 PM on October 08

Hey Jersey: Go gring your ax somewhere else. Your trollishness is only outshined by your inflamed arrogance. And Boston was OUTCLASSED you say? HAH! Wow. I totally missed your original post there Jersey. That was my bad. You're clearly one of the good guys.

posted by pmoutz at 10:02 PM on October 08

Great to see the White Sox finally get past a playoff series. Also great to see one of the funnest White Sox players of all time, Ozzie Guillen, be a major part of that. I don't care who they play in the next round, but I think it would be sweeter to beat the Yankees and their big payroll to get to the World Series. Here's hoping the White Sox win it all this year and the Cubs next year, then we can all stop feeling sorry for ourselves!

posted by sic at 06:49 AM on October 09

what to BIG MOUTH SHILLING he won't see the post season against the nat. league ALL RIGHT!!!!! now if the yankees lose i will feel a little better about it personally the way george f----ed up thier pitching staff he deserves to lose!!!! yours Franky (still the yankee fan)

posted by FrankySP at 08:57 AM on October 09

Excuse me that was what happened to ....... i just got carried away i was so glad that BOSTON LOST!!!!!! FrankySP

posted by FrankySP at 09:02 AM on October 09

That's okay, Franky -- next time you get carried away, just ask your mommy to give you a nice milk and cookie and that'll settle you right down.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 09:14 AM on October 09

Okay, I have to say it...the google ad on this page for the "Yankees Choke" t-shirt 'specially for Boston fans is kinda funny right now. You talk or wear that kinda trash and sooner or later, it'll come back to haunt you.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 09:24 AM on October 09

It doesn't matter who wins the AL because none of them can hang with the redbirds......sorry

posted by pujols4prez at 04:51 PM on October 09

AL hung with Pujols pretty well last year, if I recall.

posted by jerseygirl at 06:04 PM on October 09

Well, the Cards were tied at 0-0 at the start of each game, jg.

posted by yerfatma at 06:05 PM on October 09

They had a no hitter going at the start of each game too, as I remember it.

posted by jerseygirl at 06:08 PM on October 09

JG, your team is out and your remaining post season support is fickle. Go practice the shotput and get over last year already.

posted by cardsfan at 07:43 PM on October 09

your team is out and your remaining post season support is fickle. Go practice the shotput and get over last year already. Are you still upset that the media forces the yankees/red sox on the public? This might be the cardinals year. Then again, that's all I heard last year also. Wait until the series, the cardinals will show boston what real baseball looks like. And, well, they sucked. Maybe this year will be different.

posted by justgary at 08:09 PM on October 09

So much for the notion of "Oh Cardinals fans are SO nice!"

posted by jerseygirl at 08:15 PM on October 09

So much for the notion of "Oh Cardinals fans are SO nice!" c'mon jgirl. You started that LR thread. Stay true.

posted by Ufez Jones at 09:01 PM on October 09

The notion was one from the Boston fan and media perspective of last year. Guess I should have made that clear to non-Bostonians.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:36 PM on October 09

No context needed in this regard. All teams have good and bad fans. Don't feed the animals.

posted by Ufez Jones at 10:53 PM on October 09

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051010/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_jim_litke;_ylt=ApvnhwBXBBz6RKutT7eK6MgLMxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

posted by zippinglou at 04:16 PM on October 10

Sorry, here's the link again: CHI-WSOX & VENEZUELAN TRADITION

posted by zippinglou at 04:22 PM on October 10

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