February 8, 2008

Pedro Martinez, Juan Marichal filmed at cock fight : A video of Martinez and Marichal at a cockfight was posted this week on YouTube and it showed the two laughing before releasing the roosters. They took part as honourary "soltadores," the word used to describe the person who puts the animal to fight. The fight takes place in their home country, the Dominican Republic, where cockfighting is legal and popular. It is banned throughout the United States

read story | posted by BornIcon to Culture at 6:12 AM CDT (67 comments total)

Here is the video but without the actual cock fight.

Comment icon posted by BornIcon at 6:16 AM CDT on February 8

I don't agree with it, but it's legal there. Many other cultures take part in activities people in the U.S. would go ape-shit over. As long as he doesn't buy a suburban-Atlanta mansion and turn it into a cockfighting training and development center, not much we can do about it up here.

Comment icon posted by dyams at 8:40 AM CDT on February 8

This happened 2 years ago which was before the Vick incident occurred. I would think at this point whether it is legal or not, most pro athletes would be wise enough to steer clear of this type of publicity. If this had happened recently I would see the baseball community being upset, but not when it occurred 2 years ago.

I don't think anyone should be doing this kind of thing.

Comment icon posted by Familyman at 9:02 AM CDT on February 8

I don't think anyone should be doing this kind of thing.

I agree, but I also have a hard time finding this a worse example of animal cruelty than factory farming -- and yet, a lot of people eat factory-farmed chicken but would never go to a cockfight.

Comment icon posted by lil_brown_bat at 9:07 AM CDT on February 8

Ah, I don't think this is such a big deal.

Chickens are jerks.

Comment icon posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 9:28 AM CDT on February 8

So, what's the big stink, anyway? It's just two guys, standing in a ring, smiling at each other, with their cocks in their hands.

Comment icon posted by The_Black_Hand at 9:33 AM CDT on February 8

It's just two guys, standing in a ring, smiling at each other, with their cocks in their hands.

Now I'm happy the video did not include the actual fight. I thought it was something totally different.

Comment icon posted by BoKnows at 9:38 AM CDT on February 8

Chickens are jerks
MMMMMMM. Jerk Chicken.

It's just two guys, standing in a ring, smiling at each other, with their cocks in their hands.
I seem to remember this happening in some movie back in the eighties. Night Shift keeps coming to mind but I can't be sure.

Comment icon posted by Ricardo at 9:57 AM CDT on February 8

Many Athletes attend cat fights on a regular basis. And while the moral majority
may find it cruel and offensive in many cultures nude female mud wrestling is
believed to be a sport.

Comment icon posted by thatch at 10:03 AM CDT on February 8

NSFW (link includes video) - alleged crazy chicken fight. I don't know how it's scored.

Comment icon posted by BoKnows at 10:05 AM CDT on February 8

I worked at a chicken farm a while back, and it made me cruel. First you're disgusted by the filth and the sea of chickens you have to wade through, then you feel panic and pity in equal measures as you rescue the injured and dying chickens from the instinctive cannibalistic pecking of their sisters only to feel horror and anger at being forced to put the dying ones out of their misery; at last you feel morally compromised because you've learned first-hand that "humane treatment" has virtually nothing to do with how farm animals live and almost everything to do with how farm workers live with themselves.

Consumers and the general public think "cruelty-free" is all about the birds, but I've seen free-range farms, and the chickens there are just as stupid and loathsome as anywhere. The difference is the workers, who tend to love their free-range charges; by the end of my first month in a traditional "factory" farm, I had learned to hate chickens so much that I no longer pulled the dying birds out of the shed for a coup de grace, but stepped on them right there in front of their cousins and kicked their heads off. Sometimes the heads would fly so far I wouldn't find them.

I honestly bet the other chickens weren't really fazed by the daily beheadings, because I honestly hate live chickens. I had a job that required me not to care about the cruelty I was visiting on these animals, and, to my shame, I internalized it, and now I am saddled with an uncontrollable loathing for chickens.

These guys are doing it for fun, which is degenerate, but I understand how easy it is to take pleasure at the pain of poultry, filthy creatures that they are.

It's not about the birds, it's about us, and how we redirect our own cruel urges, and about how we justify that redirection.

Since working at the chicken farm, I've spent many years in various animal welfare-related jobs, caring for puppies and kittens and rodents and snakes and even birds, and I really do love them, but I still get a tick of hate at the base of my brain whenever I see a chicken, like I want to kick it across the yard for making me want to kick it across the yard.

They sure are cute as chicks, though, all yellow and fluffy and "peep, peep, peep."

Comment icon posted by Hugh Janus at 10:05 AM CDT on February 8

In summary:

Hugh Janus says -

"Chickens: They'd be easier to care about if they weren't a bunch of total assholes."

Comment icon posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 10:25 AM CDT on February 8

Fuckin' A, Weedy. This bud's for you.

Comment icon posted by Hugh Janus at 10:30 AM CDT on February 8

This thread is surreal...I love it!

Comment icon posted by hawkguy at 11:10 AM CDT on February 8

So Hugh Janus, I take it Kentucky Fried Chicken doens't get much of your business?

Comment icon posted by steelergirl at 11:28 AM CDT on February 8

Its so much easier to love dogs than chickens, cockroaches and other animals. That was Vicks mistake, he did it to lovable dogs, and along with the fact that he did his crime in the USA where it is a crime. Bull fighting, cock fighting and other similar activities are legal in some countries. So to me, if you are a professional athlete or ex pro athlete, doing something legal in another country whether it be chasing prostitues, or smoking weed in Amsterdam or attending cock fights in the Dominican Republic so be it. As long as when you are in the USA you abide by the laws here. Who cares.

The do-gooder - PETA types should take up their cause with officials in the Dominican Republic instead of bagging on two guys who like to watch cock fighting.
The attention of animal lovers would be better directed at McDonalds or KFC who kill em by the millions. Oh I forgot they are. I think I'll go eat a chicken for lunch as all this talk is making me hungry.

With all the problems in this world, millions of humans dying of starvation and genocide it sure is easy to not give a shit about chickens.

Comment icon posted by Atheist at 11:31 AM CDT on February 8

I have a theory about animals. The cuter the animal better it tastes. Take a look at a chicken and think about what it tastes like. Now take a look at a puggle puppy and imagine what it tastes like.

Comment icon posted by HATER 187 at 11:41 AM CDT on February 8

Actually, steelergirl, when I succumb to my biennial fried chicken craving, I usually go to a Kennedy or Queen or Palace Fried Chicken joint -- they do dark meat right, unlike the Colonel's.

I generally don't think about cows while I eat burgers, or pigs when I eat their ribs, or all the night soil that goes into the carrots I eat. Most food was covered in shit or blood at some point.

I worked at a dairy farm, too, and I love cows. They're pretty nice.

Comment icon posted by Hugh Janus at 11:51 AM CDT on February 8

puggle tastes like chicken

Comment icon posted by Bill Lumbergh at 11:53 AM CDT on February 8

I think puggle tastes like a cross between Bald Eagle and Owl.

Comment icon posted by scuubie at 12:15 PM CDT on February 8

Mr. Hugh, you are a literary giant. That there is Pulitzer stuff, my friend. To follow up the very descriptive and revealing mental ordeal and anguish you suffered at the hands (wings?) of those cruel poultry with:

They sure are cute as chicks, though, all yellow and fluffy and "peep, peep, peep."


speaks to your ability to forgive. You have taught us all something. Fuck the tuna, though. Lousy bastards.

Comment icon posted by THX-1138 at 12:24 PM CDT on February 8

But baby tuna are sooo cute ... I wonder what seal meat tastes like ...

Comment icon posted by Ricardo at 1:25 PM CDT on February 8

But baby tuna sure are cute, though, all silver and shiny, and " ."

That's why I've been working so diligently on my tuna-free dolphin nets.

On edit, fine, Ricardo, you beat me to it, but I stand by my post.

Comment icon posted by tahoemoj at 1:30 PM CDT on February 8

Actually, steelergirl, when I succumb to my biennial fried chicken craving, I usually go to a Kennedy or Queen or Palace Fried Chicken joint -- they do dark meat right, unlike the Colonel's.

Now that's the way to go if you're gonna go there: Kennedy Fried Chicken, not for the faint of heart! It makes you know you're alive, and sometimes wish you weren't.

Comment icon posted by lil_brown_bat at 1:39 PM CDT on February 8

I had a Dominican roommate a couple years back who was into cockfighting in the DR. He said Marichal's roosters (cocks, whatever) were renowned for being the best in the business. Leave these guys alone on this, if you lived over there you would find this entertaining. There's nothing else to do but drink Presidente's, hang out on the corner, and listen to merengue music.

I agree, this is one surreal and highly entertaining post.

Comment icon posted by erkno11 at 1:40 PM CDT on February 8

There's nothing else to do but drink Presidente's

I fail to see the problem. That fairly well describes my house.

Comment icon posted by yerfatma at 1:45 PM CDT on February 8

The bottom line is this; It's great to be the dominant species.

I have no problem with Dominican's watching a cock fight, as long as they don't do it on my front lawn while they're cutting my grass!

Comment icon posted by MGDADDYO at 1:54 PM CDT on February 8

Why do you have roosters cutting your grass?

Comment icon posted by BoKnows at 1:56 PM CDT on February 8

Cuz' chickens leave the edges all sloppy. And they keep crossing the road to my neighbors'.

Comment icon posted by tahoemoj at 2:04 PM CDT on February 8

"Why do you have roosters cutting your grass?"

Because the the little peckers will work for less than the Dominicans will.

Comment icon posted by mr_crash_davis at 2:10 PM CDT on February 8

And you can kill 'em and eat 'em if they don't do a good job. Or even if they do.

Comment icon posted by lil_brown_bat at 2:28 PM CDT on February 8

why not throw a bunch of tuna on the lawn and see if those will do the job.

Comment icon posted by Ricardo at 2:33 PM CDT on February 8

And you can kill 'em and eat 'em if they don't do a good job. Or even if they do.

The roosters?, or the Dominicans?

Comment icon posted by tommytrump at 2:40 PM CDT on February 8

Hmmmm, if I didn't know better, I'd think SOME of you(or most of you) are getting tanked up at the airport bar.

Comment icon posted by MGDADDYO at 2:53 PM CDT on February 8

This thread reminds me of a George Carlin quote: "If lobsters looked like puppies, nobody could ever drop them in boiling water while they were still alive. But instead they look like science fiction monsters, so it's OK."

Comment icon posted by TheQatarian at 2:54 PM CDT on February 8

I'm getting tanked up at work, on the company nickel even. Beat that!

Comment icon posted by lil_brown_bat at 3:02 PM CDT on February 8

Saw a sticker on a pickup truck window recently that said: P.E.T.A, People Eating Tasty Animals.

I am a cat lover, but dogs I can take or leave. I am particularly not fond of very small, yappy dogs. I call them "drop kick dogs" because they should be used in contests to see who can kick them the farthest or for the most accuracy.

I told my wife I was going to get a chick to mow the lawn, but when the chick showed up in shorts and a bikini top, that idea got stopped in a hurry.

The University of South Carolina calls its athletic teams the "Gamecocks". This has always brought a very disturbing image to my mind.

On edit, Ricardo, I tried throwing the tuna on the lawn, but they only went after the worms. Not very good for the grass.

Comment icon posted by Howard_T at 3:16 PM CDT on February 8

Best. Thread. Ever.

And I'm vegetarian.

Comment icon posted by owlhouse at 4:01 PM CDT on February 8

But Tuna is Chicken of the Sea, and Jessica likes chicken about as much as HJ.

Comment icon posted by irunfromclones at 4:19 PM CDT on February 8

Didn't she also cause the Cowbys to lose a playoff game?

Comment icon posted by hawkguy at 4:25 PM CDT on February 8

I'm going to go home after work and get drunk just so I can laugh even harder than I did this afternoon.

Comment icon posted by hawkguy at 4:27 PM CDT on February 8

Night Shift keeps coming to mind but I can't be sure

Don't remember that happening in Night Shift (the Winkler/Keaton one), but I was just getting into drugs then, so their wonderful memory enhancing properties hadn't yet kicked in. What it reminds me of is the glow-in-the-dark condom scene in the John Ritter classic Skin Deep.

Comment icon posted by tahoemoj at 4:59 PM CDT on February 8

Colonel Sanders was a cock lover.

Comment icon posted by Nakeman at 5:23 PM CDT on February 8

Y'mean like the South Park "Chicken Lover?"

Comment icon posted by tahoemoj at 5:32 PM CDT on February 8

There's a great cock fight scene in the John Ritter movie "Skin Deep". Baby seal tastes like a cross between Whopping Crane and strawberries.

Comment icon posted by budman13 at 5:38 PM CDT on February 8

Night Shift keeps coming to mind but I can't be sure

"Midnight Cowboy" maybe? I've never seen it but I think it was one of "those" movies.

My cock is overly aggressive ...I'm considering therapy, for him.

Comment icon posted by Sprdave32 at 6:32 PM CDT on February 8

Cock fighting is legal in Louisiana, having lived in both Slidel and West Bank I was invited to several fights. Never went because I find the sport a bit cruel. But thats just me, those who fight with their cocks really seem to enjoy it and there is a lot of betting and money can be made if you have a big strong pecker with a steal spur.

Still I love "good" fried chicken with collards and corn bread. And why is it chicken tastes so much like baby seal? I guess our Canadian friends could answer that. Weedy? Grum? Tommy?

Comment icon posted by Folkways at 6:33 PM CDT on February 8

I think its great that Pedro has taken up a new recreation! Maybe this will relieve the urge that he has to beat up senior citizens.

Comment icon posted by americanleague at 6:38 PM CDT on February 8

SportsFilter: Those who fight with their cocks really seem to enjoy it.

Comment icon posted by jerseygirl at 6:50 PM CDT on February 8

Sportsfilter: money can be made if you have a big strong pecker with a steal spur

Comment icon posted by justgary at 7:16 PM CDT on February 8

I wonder what seal meat tastes like ...

This reminds me of a great joke I heard once, want to hear it, here it goes!

So this baby seal walks into a club......

Comment icon posted by jojomfd1 at 9:57 PM CDT on February 8

There's nothing else to do but drink Presidente's


I fail to see the problem. That fairly well describes my house

I am so coming over. I can whip up so mean BBQ provided my BAC is kept over .10.

Comment icon posted by HATER 187 at 10:10 PM CDT on February 8

Hell yeah man, whichever chicken has lost is then barbecued. That's how the Dominicans do it baby. I don't get why people are making such a big deal about this. I saw this story on ESPN and they kept talking about it. They are chickens man which we eat, end of story. I also don't get why people don't like dogfighting. I mean asians enjoy eating dog meat, why don't Americans?

Comment icon posted by Scars at 12:29 AM CDT on February 9

What is this Kennedy Fried Chicken? Does Ted have a side job?
Yes, the glow in the dark condom fight was hilarious.

When I was little (about 4-5y.o.) my mom would hatchet off the heads of the Sunday dinner chickens. I had to hold them upside down by the feet until they bled out. I can still feel the strikes of their flapping wings.

Comment icon posted by steelergirl at 7:47 AM CDT on February 9

The fact that they were in a country where it was legal totally makes this a non story. Yes, there are a lot of people in the U.S. that find this repulsive but like it or not it is popular in other countries. Most people who eat chicken have no problem consuming it but to watch two chickens fight....well that's just wrong! LOL

Comment icon posted by B10 at 8:59 AM CDT on February 9

Night Shift keeps coming to mind but I can't be sure

I think you mean Night Patrol.

Comment icon posted by greasepig at 9:36 AM CDT on February 9

My cock is not a fighter it's a lover.

Comment icon posted by budman13 at 11:11 AM CDT on February 9

Pedro is going to enter Don Zimmer in a cock fight. Zimmers ring name will be The Droopy Rooster.

Comment icon posted by MGDADDYO at 3:09 PM CDT on February 9

Did you hear the cops in Amsterdam can't smoke pot even tho it is legal there.
Something about their reputation, and they don't want the force to look bad. Even tho it's legal. Americans don't want our athletes doin shit that is going to make their sport look bad. Legal or otherwise. See Bullfighting. Nasty,cruel sport.

Comment icon posted by scuubie at 6:13 PM CDT on February 9

Even tho they eat the bull. And yes, bull tastes like chicken.

Comment icon posted by scuubie at 6:14 PM CDT on February 9

No, bull tastes like steak. And if your steak tastes like chicken, then there's something drastically wrong with your steak. Or your tongue. Or some damn thing.

Comment icon posted by The_Black_Hand at 10:25 PM CDT on February 9

Beef....it's what's fer dinner.....

Comment icon posted by budman13 at 11:11 PM CDT on February 9

Scars, have you had dog?? Its kind of chewey.

Comment icon posted by Bxboy at 8:03 AM CDT on February 10

I mean asians enjoy eating dog meat, why don't Americans?


Because I need the dog to eat the damned cats. F-ing lousy pussies.

Comment icon posted by THX-1138 at 7:01 PM CDT on February 10

I think you mean Night Patrol.

Hehe. I think you're right. Although I can't remember one single other thing from the movie. How do you remember one scene from a movie and it's the naked guys bumping dicks. How humiliating.

The link to imdb shows Pat Morita as "Rape Victim". Now that's funny.

Comment icon posted by Ricardo at 9:59 AM CDT on February 11

F-ing lousy pussies.

Speaking of pussies, why is cat fighting legal in all 50 states? You would think that given the effect it has on cocks it would be banned.

Comment icon posted by irunfromclones at 6:47 PM CDT on February 11

Speaking of pussies, why is cat fighting legal in all 50 states? You would think that given the effect it has on cocks it would be banned.

You have answered your own question. The effect it has is exactly why it is not banned.

Comment icon posted by THX-1138 at 9:46 PM CDT on February 11

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