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Absolutely my mistake. I had Simms on my mind as it was Denver that felt Simms was going nowhere and was another reason they are looking for Quinn. Orton and Simms are just not enough for the Bronco's to be contenders. Quinn and Anderson both looked bad for Cleveland equally.
posted by Atheist at 01:06 PM on March 16
Well it's Tiger Woods official. He will play at the Masters, not before. Got to have the biggest stage for the most attention.
posted by Atheist at 12:17 PM on March 16
"See him play much?"
Well I saw Orton look better with Denver than he looked with Chicago. I saw everybody Simms, Anderson and Quinn look bad with Cleveland. It seems everybody looks bad when they are on the Browns. Sometimes a change to a better program with a better line does wonders for a QB. Drew Brees looked a lot better with NO than with the Chargers. I think the same situation will hold true for Quinn. I am not saying he is a Drew Brees but Denver gives him a fighting chance he did not have with the Browns.
posted by Atheist at 04:56 PM on March 15
Denver is thinking that Kyle Orton sucks and they need a future at the QB position and that possibly is Quinn. BQ was highly rated and a very good athlete, he had the misfortune of going to Cleveland which is could kill any QB prospect. To me he seems like a great pick up for practically nothing. It could work out as I am sure Orton won't.
Also FWIW I think Delhome is not going to help Cleveland either , which should only make the Quinn trade look better for Denver. Anderson, Simms or Quinn could not help Cleveland since obviously their issues are not at the QB position but in other places.
posted by Atheist at 01:28 PM on March 15
"I don't see the Steelers cutting their Super Bowl quarterback at this stage. How would the team look if he was completely exonerated and signed with a rival team?"
Actually I think the team would look like Mr. Rooney wants them to look. Exactly like a team that expects their players to be role models in the community and behave in a civilized manner. Is it possible that some owners in the league like Arthur Branch of the Falcons or Mr. Rooney will get rid of a player regardless of talent just because they feel some things are worth making a sacrafice for. Frankly based on Rothlisberger's and the Steelers collapse last season, it may not be a bad move. Stupid motorcycle incident, two sexual assault charges... maybe this guys off field behavior is sending a red flag to Mr. Rooney.
posted by Atheist at 02:11 PM on March 12
My who cares comment was not about caring enough to discuss it in the forum. It was saying who cares if he plays or not. If I were interested in the Masters Golf Tournament I probably would prefer a Tigerless tournament as it will only create a circus around an event that is more dignified than that. I agree also with BI regarding Tigers transgressions, his personal life is just that personal, and the only apology he owes to anybody are those who are adversely affected by his actions ie his family and corporate sponsors.
In any case the way everything is being handled by Tiger, it is apparent that Tiger is all about Tiger, and if history is any indication the one thing you can count on where Tiger is concerned, that he will do exactly what he wants, with little regard for the effect it may have on others. So I do expect him to show up, play golf when and where it suits him. 100% within his right. We get to think about him whatever we like and he gets to not care. Perfect.
posted by Atheist at 01:54 PM on March 12
Nice to see someone is being held accountable. Of course life in prison or death would be a just punishment for committing murder, I can't help but notice when a criminal kills an athlete the punishment fits the crime, but when an athlete kills ie Jason Williams or OJ Simpson etc it doesn't usually work the same way.
posted by Atheist at 01:29 PM on March 12
I think what I am noticing is that if a white player had said the same thing in USA Today. It would be all over every news outlet and he would be getting a ration of shit. Other than this forum I not sure Tori Hunter will catch any crap for it.
I think Tahoemoj said it great. There must be a million guys who could play in the major leagues right here but won't accept the piddley million dollar contracts those Latino's are willing to play for.
Does anybody who watched the Acadamy Awards really think the we still need special awards for people based on race?
posted by Atheist at 05:26 PM on March 11
Who cares? Until Tiger says it, does it really mean anything? Come to think of it even if Tiger says it, does it really mean anything? He is after all a first class liar.
posted by Atheist at 05:21 PM on March 11
I can't help but notice the extreme difference between the latitude given to black people expressing their thoughts regarding racial issues and white people doing the same. The double standard is getting pretty tiring.
There will never be a White Entertainment Awards show, or a NAAWP, or a United White College Fund etc. So when I hear crap like this I can only be hopeful that soon the world will recognize racism in all forms by all people equally and stop the madness. Someday a baseball player will be judged by the strength of his ability and not the color of his skin. Does Tori think we should send those black impostors back to the South America where they came from?
Note to Tori - free agency allows players of any color to sign a contract that is negotiated between them and their employers, even if you feel they play too cheap or are not the right color. Also there are white people in South America and other places that might surprise you, just as there are black people in South America, the Caribbean, North America, Europe, and Africa. Stick to baseball because it appears thinking is not your strong suit. Thanks for providing evidence that stupid comes in all colors.
posted by Atheist at 03:32 PM on March 11
Well based on the previous allegation and this, I am getting a pretty good picture of Ben Rothlisberger and frankly his credibility is going down the drain pretty fast. I can't wait until her story comes out but I have a feeling this is not going away as quickly as Rothlisberger would like. Hopefully she won't take a settlement and go away. The more I read the more he sounds like an ass.
posted by Atheist at 01:32 PM on March 11
Well I try to give a guy the benefit of the doubt. Of course when you start getting multiple sexual assault complaints against you, it starts to look bad. It is a fact that sexual offenders rarely are one time offenders. It is a known behavior problem that typically repeats itself. This guy probably needs an escort/witness when he goes out partying as I see a pattern developing.
posted by Atheist at 03:14 PM on March 08
You may have misunderstood my statement, actually I may have not made my thought very clear or expressed it correctly. I do not feel the individual athlete has any responsibility to the league. He is only responsible to make the best deal for himself. That said the players collectively (as a union) have a responsibility to themselves collectively to ensure the best environment for all player salaries collectively.
This is a real conflict and frankly in the free enterprise the terms free agent and union member are in a way an oxy-moron. You really cannot have unrestricted free agency and coexist within a collective union. This is why collectively they restrict free agency as part of the CBA. Sometimes very highly paid players do have to sacrifice for the greater good of all players and why I feel that in the long run the salary cap is good for the players collectively and on average, while it hurts certain individual players.
If the players greed, or the owners greed force the league to become less competitive across markets, it will be the players who suffer the most.
I can't help but see the news today where Jake Delome is in tears over his being cut by the Panthers. I can understand his sorrow but in a world where millions have lost their jobs and homes, it is hard to cry with a guy that lost his job due to poor performance and will still be paid 12 million dollars over the next three years in guarantee money, not to mention his lucrative NFL pension upon retirement. Forgive me if I don't feel to sorry for the players rotten deal with the league.
Yes yerfatma at times I do put the needs of my company ahead of my short term needs when it ensures that there will be a company to keep paying me for years to come as opposed to making more in the short term if ti in fact kills the company. Didn't the auto workers do this to themselves?
posted by Atheist at 05:43 PM on March 05
Yes this cap-less year is going to be hard on a lot of players as owners rush to revamp their rosters in anticipation of salary changes to come. When one of the leagues leading rushers is axed ie Thomas Jones of the Jets it underscores the point.
I think the owners are about to show the players why the current system and CBA is good for everybody and why the players need to be very carefull. I think the NFL has an great system for keeping the league competitive across both large and small markets. They share in the revenue and benefit from the great decisions that led to a league that has not had the problems that say MLB has had. A lot of these players cannot run their own lives all that well, let alone make good decisions regarding the future of the NFL. For players it has always been about the money NOW. The owners have a stake in trying to ensure a healthy league for a long future. No cap will benefit a select few player in a select few markets, but it can't be good for the majority of the players across the league.
posted by Atheist at 01:48 PM on March 05
Michael Jordan buys the Charlotte Bobcats
I can't imagine the skill set required for becoming a good team owner has anything to do with the skills required for becoming a great player.
That said, I guess anybody who has enough money can own whatever they can afford to buy. The fact that the Bobcats owner was arguably one of the greatest players ever really has little bearing on how the ownership thing works out.