Now Satch and Josh, they had a deal: Whoever played first on Elysian Field Would scout out the park, give the other a call, Tell 'im if the angels in heaven played ball. Josh he died, but Satch kept livin', Waited for the call, but he never heard nothing 'Til the eighth of June, eighty-two, He said "Josh, is that you?" Josh said, "Satch, how ya doin, the boys is fine, Playing like nineteen-twenty-nine, Playin' ain't lookin', playing all the reams, Playin' right now 'gainst the white boys' team. "It's the bottom of the ninth, we're up by one," Josh gave a little grin, "They got a runner on third with nobody out, And Satch— "Now Satch, that may sound as if we're in a spot of difficulty up here, but that ain't the bad news. That runner on third isn't just anybody, no sir, that runner on third is Ty Cobb. Why, he's so fast, he can turn out the lights and be in bed before it gets dark. That ain't the bad news, though. That man at the plate? That man at the plate: Rogers Hornsby. Why, he can hit anythin'. I seen him get a single on a throw to third! Why, one time I seen him hit the ball through a car wash, not even get it wet! That ain't the bad news. That man in the on-deck circle? That great big guy with the skinny legs? Babe Ruth. Folks up here call him the Josh Gibson of the white leagues. But that ain't the bad news. This is the bad news: Satch... "—we're puttin' you in." from The Secret of Life According to Satchel Paige, written by Bob Bossin, performed by Stringband
Tad: I am sorry that you don't know the literal deffinition of "liberal", it refers to thoughts and or action outside the norm. Glad to be of service.
as early as the early 60's maybe even the late 50's (Olympic athletes in Eastern Eurpoe), the guys that played for the love of the game and didn't get paid There have been salary disuptes as long as there has been pro baseball.
"Avoid fried foods, which angry up the blood." --Satchel Paige
Tad: I am sorry that you don't know the literal deffinition of "liberal", it refers to thoughts and or action outside the norm. Glad to be of service. Joe Veltri: I am sorry that you can't see past the literal definition of liberal.
Ha! Nice quote black hand, truly inspirational. That Satchel had a way with words.
Tad: I am sorry that you don't know the literal deffinition of "liberal", it refers to thoughts and or action outside the norm. Glad to be of service. Yes, but is that how YOU meant it? I'm sure there was some political spin there. Funny, there are so many other meanings to the word liberal; you chose the least often used one (and the one most pointed to politics.): > broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions" > having political or social views favoring reform and progress > tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition > a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties > big: given or giving freely; "was a big tipper"; "the bounteous goodness of God"; "bountiful compliments"; "a freehanded host"; "a handsome allowance"; "Saturday's child is loving and giving"; "a liberal backer of the arts"; "a munificent gift"; "her fond and openhanded grandfather" > a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets free: not literal; "a loose interpretation of what she had been told"; "a free translation of the poem" ...if that makes me liberal, then thank you, Joe. There have been salary disuptes as long as there has been pro baseball. True. But the beginning of the free agency era saw the biggest jump in salary disputes. Guys didn't have to work two jobs anymore after free agency. Dr. John Evans - very cool.
Say the word liberal and the liberals become indignant. No conservative I know ever objects to being called a conservative. Liberals if you are, be proud, accept it, but mostly get over it.
We are just trying to make this an informative and exciting forum.Ha Ha.
Eh, it's old hat, and keeps the kids in line, ya know?
Say the word liberal and the liberals become indignant. No conservative I know ever objects to being called a conservative. Liberals if you are, be proud, accept it, but mostly get over it. Yeh, but the problem is that I'm a conservative and I think he called me a liberal. Them's fightin' words, aren't they?
I'm a conservsative, yet the use of the term 'Liberal' in this instance was used as an insult. If people feel insulted, they have every right to become indignant. And that still doesn't change the fact that this discussion should have absolutely nothing to do with either Liberalism or Conservatism. Try staying on topic.
Yeh, but the problem is that I'm a conservative and I think he called me a liberal. Them's fightin' words, aren't they? To the death. Try staying on topic Responses to topics are like rumors. By the time they get to the end of the line they're pretty much off message. So shoot me.
So shoot me. Sad thing is, if I did, you'd probably defend my right to own an AK-47 all the way to the hospital.
Sad thing is, if I did, you'd probably defend my right to own an AK-47 all the way to the hospital. Yes I would except I've seen what they can do and most probably I'd be heading for a morgue. I would submit, however, that a sadder sight might be watching you thrash your way into a gun store after you're threatened by I don't know, let's see, terrorists? After a few attacks you'll be voting to expand the 2nd to tanks and private nukes. Wait and see...
What the fuck happened to this thread!?!
ok i think i might have started this sorry. Just a few comments I'm a LIBERAL and I'd still defend most people's right to own an Ak-47. Also I don't take liberal as an insult i wear it as a badge of honor. Satchel Paige my be the second best pitcher in the history of baseball. Young has to be first 511 wins are you serious. Even if steriods caused Alzedo's tumor they are used differently today and in far less dosages. Oh and just to piss most everyone off Yankees Rule. Sorry had to do it.
Yeah, them terrrorists, they're marchin' down the boulevard, a la Red Dawn. What the fuck happened to this thread!?! It was hijacked by somebody who confuses belligerence and thickheadedness with patriotism and bravery. Lot of that going around nowdays.
Oh and just to piss most everyone off Yankees Rule. Yanks will remain my American League team so long as ex-Cardinal player and manager Torre is there. After Torre, I'll hate the Yanks. Yeah, them terrrorists, they're marchin' down the boulevard, a la Red Dawn. Rather dismissive aren't you? Very brave. Oh, and they won't be marching. They'll simply sneak in wherever the crowds are. It was hijacked by somebody who confuses belligerence and thickheadedness with patriotism and bravery. Lot of that going around nowdays. If you don't know what else to say, just call names. Works every time, at some levels.
Thank you all. This thread has been very fucking educational. Strange, but educational.
name calling rocks someone called a poopy head and i almost pissed my pants. Poopy head now ranks very near the top of funniest insults I've ever heard...... We now return you to your regularly schedualed thread.
Poopy head now ranks very near the top of funniest insults I've ever heard...... I'll claim credit for that. I wasn't the one who used it, but I did set him up. I've been laughing about it for the past two hours. I got some dope to actually call someone (me, even!) a "poopy head"! Hahahahahahaha!!!
Sorry to make an on-topic post, but I was compelled. As someone who has been involved in editing several Baseball Encyclopedias, I can guarantee that we will not change any numbers or use any asterisks. We record history, we don't judge it. Besides, there are reasons to wipe out out virtually every baseball record ever accomplished. Amphetamines have been used since World War II, and they've had a significantly larger effect on the record book than steroids. Before 1946, of course, the talent base in baseball was ridiculously thin since black players etc. were kept out of the game. So you might as well asterisk the whole book. Other problems Drug aided hitters were facing drug aided batters - how do you deal with that? Everything ina baseball encyclopedia has to add up. For every win, there is a loss. For every run scored, there is a run allowed. You can just remove things from the record like you can from a track meet and ignore the implications. We can only identify a few of the thousands and thousands of players who have used chemical aids. These drugs were not always been banned by baseball, and it's wrongheaded to punish players for something that wasn't against the rules. Even if its against the law; baseball's law and society's law are two different things. If Pete Rose had murdered a bookie instead of betting with one, he'd be in the Hall, because in baseball, gambling is worse than murder. Besides, even recently, using these drugs is not always illegal. Many players probably used steroids only back in the Dominican Republic in the offseason while training and then were clean during the season. Thus, they did nothing illegal or against baseball's rules. And, of course, there's the reality that cheating has always been celebrated by baseball. There have been players who made the Hall by cheating, and no one's ever had a problem with it (Gaylord Perry, for example). Therea re whole books written about cheating in baseball, with the attitude "It ain't cheating if you don't get caught" And, for those who keep bringing up Pete Rose, please! Rose violated the cardinal rule of baseball, a rule so incredibly important it's posted in every clubhouse - don't gamble on baseball games, especially on those games you are involved in. There's nothing - including the murder of an entire baseball team - that would be a worse "baseball sin," because it creates doubts as to whether players and managers are always trying their best to win every game. Players who use drugs are cheating to win, something that is very, very different. Baseball is not wrestling; it would die if it were just a show and not a true competition.
Pete Rose should still be i n the Hall of Fame because isn't the Hall about on-field acomplishments not off-field mess-ups? By the way someone should jam a 44 ounce Louisville Slugger up Jose Conseco's ass.
Oh, and they won't be marching. They'll simply sneak in wherever the crowds are. Last time we saw them, they para-dropped, right in the middle of class. Ever since, I've had the crossbow oiled and ready. STLCF, you're single-handedly putting up with a lot of crap, but I have to ask: do you honestly believe the terrorists have a chance? If so, what qualifies as a win for them? That's what I'm lost about. Look at Hurricaine Katrina: at best, all power and destruction is going to set one US city back a year or two. Look at our friggin' GDP; who can really fight against that? Short of a full set of Robert Oppenheimer 1945 Memorial Big Boppers, what lasting effect can they have? I think the only plausible lasting negative effect is for us all to live in fear, which seems like the goal of our current administration as well. I suppose it gets votes. So who's winning?
spira, you've got a lot of nerve, bringing experience, facts and rational thought into this thread. Thanks.
someone should jam a 44 ounce Louisville Slugger up Jose Conseco's ass. I don't think that's a legal bat weight anymore. Consult your local sodomy laws before proceeding in private. Sorry to make an on-topic post Nice try. We have a zero-tolerance policy for new members who can stay on topic and come anywhere close to typing the Queen's English. You and STLCF, with your spelling and Strunk & White punctuation and your pretty mouths, are screwed. On preview: chico, don't ever bite my comments ever again. And if there is a next time and you manage to rip me off more pithilty than I can express myself, you're dead. Wolverines!
Upon reflection, spira's grandfathered in. How you like them apples, Harvard?
I'd just like to thank God, and the Academy...
do you honestly believe the terrorists have a chance? If so, what qualifies as a win for them? what lasting effect can they have? Are you kidding me? Are you on another planet? (Planet Pithity perhaps?) When people stop going to malls, restaurants, movies, sporting events and the rest, your GDP will will take a major double-digit hit. That would be a win for these sick, twisted bastards and the lasting effect will survive well beyond our lifetimes. Meanwhile you're free to bash the administration and all who would try to protect us from the inevitable. You'll also be screaming the loudest asking why somebody didn't do something like kill them in the middle east before they could get here. Nice try. We have a zero-tolerance policy for new members who can stay on topic and come anywhere close to typing the Queen's English. You and STLCF, with your spelling and Strunk & White punctuation and your pretty mouths, are screwed. Sorry if some of us aren't up to your standards. You obviously are far superior by your own admission. I would suggest you cut class and get out in the real world now and then. Of course it would be awfull to rub against the unwashed masses but you'd live through it.
yerfatma - As you saw, I don't fit the "new" description, so the apples are fine. Obviously, if I were a newbie, I would have been far too intimidated to committ such a breach of etiquette. chicobangs - You're welcome. Though my showing of nerve was only made possible by a temporary bout of insanity. Ying Yang - I think Rose in the Hall is a different discussion. I'll just say that while I wouldn't have voted for him, I've always though that he shouldn't have ben made ineligible; the voters should've had their say.
Sorry if some of us aren't up to your standards. St. Louie, that was a joke. Sarcasm, even. I was "complaining" the two of you could hold an actual conversation.
...could hold an actual conversation. And chew gum at the same time too!
St. Louie, that was a joke. Sarcasm, even. They don't teach literary devices at Parris Island. They teach some hellacious vocabulary, though.
I spent so much time on that comment, and it was wasted on this thread. Sigh.
They don't teach literary devices at Parris Island. They teach some hellacious vocabulary, though. Not Parris Island, San Diego. You're are, however, right. I don't know too many people who use words/phrases like "literary devices". No, I'm affraid the job of the poor suckers called Marines is to keep things nice and safe so people like you can say "literary devices" and poke fun at the lesser educated. You should be proud...
Who says we're not?
Who says we're not? No doubt you are. No argument here. Why else would the word "snob" have found its way into our language if it weren't needed as a descriptive term to define people who respond with "Who says we're not".
Ok. I'm kinda lost for what I did to offend you. Sorry.
Don't mention it. Not offended at all.
No, I'm affraid the job of the poor suckers called Marines is to keep things nice and safe so people like you can say "literary devices" and poke fun at the lesser educated. You should be proud... Wow...you're such a working class hero, I'll bet Bruce Springsteen drinks Iron City Light out of your combat boots. Hell, even Chesty Puller knew big words and phrases like "sarcasm" and "literary devices." Don't believe the hype, STL, just because you're a former Marine, doesn't mean you have to be dumb. I served with plenty of Marines who were smart, and even better, unlike you, they never looked at intelligence as something to be ashamed of.
...looked at intelligence as something to be ashamed of Nor do I. It was you who noted what was and wasn't taught at Marine boot camp. Curious observation if you weren't there.
SpoFi? PoliFi? BitchFightFi?
