All the skills and no future: Sean Taylor may have sealed the fate of his career with these two new charges against him. It is a shame because he is a great defensive player.
posted by BigDogintheCity to football at 01:48 PM - 30 comments
It is a shame that several athletes do immensley stupid things like that when they are basically set for life with the money they're making and they have a great career. It sadens me that the NFL will lose a good player, but I have no sympathy for Taylor what so ever.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 01:56 PM on January 27
It would also be a real shame if the charges were made to stick, because from what I've read, they are blatantly exaggerated by the prosecution. His attorney of record has filed countercharges (today) because of the delays in their prosecution's filing of the new charges. Don't get me wrong-if he's guilty, so be it, most footballers believe they are above paying the price for a crime. But it just does not seem to me that they could not present all their facts so they could be addressed.
posted by mrhockey at 01:59 PM on January 27
Where did you read the exaggerated charges? I'd like to go to that website and read them for myself. As far as the initial charge, Taylor pulled a gun on another man in a night club parking lot. The confrontation was over a woman. There were at least three eyewitnesses to this event. I agree with you. If he is guilty, then he should go to jail. It is clear from his actions on the field and off the field that Sean has never learned how to interact with the rest of society in a responsible manner. It is unfortunate that his athletic ability led his parents, mentors and coaches to ignore his lack of character. Perhaps if someone truly cared for him as a person, and not a commodity, these events would have never taken place.
posted by laker_fan at 02:24 PM on January 27
I'm truly amazed how people who have it made for the rest of their lives can be so stupid at the same time. If having money makes you that stupid, I think I'll stay broke.
posted by dbt302 at 02:24 PM on January 27
If this is the first time he's been in trouble and he has competent representation (too bad johnny cochran checked out) he would most likely get probation and community service. gosh if felons could not play in the nfl the remaining players might make up maybe one conference. But the FFL (felon football league) has a nice ring to it.
posted by kosmicdebris at 02:51 PM on January 27
if ray lewis can get away with hiring someone to kill someone and OJ can getaway with killing someone i dont see why taylor wont get away with his antics as well he is making alot of money and they will spend i looooong time in court working all this out so my guess is hell miss much of next season but play football again these things always get blown out of proportion when its an athlete by the media especially when its a BLACK athlete hell get minimum sentencing at worst
posted by humans1 at 03:09 PM on January 27
Why does an big athletic super strong guy like Sean Taylor need to threaten anybody with a gun? You'd think a pro football player is intimidating enough. You can take an athlete out of the ghetto and make him rich and famous, but you can't take the ghetto out of the athelete. We see it over and over again. Brawls with fans in the NBA, a guy shooting his chauffer, 40% of the active NBA players, by one authors count, have been accused of a felony or convicted of one. Too many sexual offenders to keep count of. Sean Taylor, Ray Lewis, Marcus Vick, Jason Williams, O.J Simpson, the list could go on forever. Maybe the professional sports should spend less time trying to check for steriods, and other drugs, maybe the NBA should stop worrying about tattoos and a dress code, how about starting with one simple and very enforcable rule, no convicted felons. If they can throw Pete Rose out of baseball for gambling which is legal, why can't they keep murderers, sex offenders, and felons out of pro sports?
posted by Atheist at 03:42 PM on January 27
u of miami alumni in trouble? surely you jest....
posted by mjkredliner at 03:46 PM on January 27
Bummer, the Redskins drafted a thug who happens to be a good football player.
posted by fenriq at 03:46 PM on January 27
I totally agree with Human1. Atheletes are given more cusion than our own polititians when it comes to stupid acts. Look at Bush, he is still in office. And he is killing Americans every day. Rumsfeld, he has STOLEN more money than a credit card scam. The list is too long to continue.
posted by wassup at 03:51 PM on January 27
What a shame. Taylor has such a great future ahead of him. Its a bummer he has to do all this crap. What, is $2.5 million a year not enough? I'd LOVE to have that kind of salary in my early 20's, but I'll still be in school working for my PharmD. Its too much a shame. My one wish is that these guys would grow up and be the role models that America as a society worships. For every Warrick Dunn there are 500 Sean Taylor's. We need more class acts in the league. This kid just doesn't cut it.
posted by chemwizBsquared at 04:26 PM on January 27
40% of the active NBA players, by one authors count, have been accused of a felony or convicted of one Does this author wear a white bedsheet on his head by any chance? Lots of people commit or are charged with crimes. Some are rich, some are poor. Some are pro athletes, most are not. Yawn.
posted by drjimmy11 at 04:29 PM on January 27
FYI, atheist, none of the athletes that you mentioned are convicted felons. You know that, right? humans1, please link to the information you have indicating that Ray Lewis hired someone to kill someone. Did you mean Rae Carruth or do you know something that no one else does?
posted by bperk at 04:34 PM on January 27
The book I referred to is called "Out of Bounds" By Jeff Benedict. A factual investigation. Here is a review of the book taken right off the internet: Out of Bounds: Inside the NBA's Culture of Rape, Violence, and Crime is a searing indictment of professional basketball players who live in a world where criminal laws and social norms don't exist, a world where they are given license to act above the law. On the court, they dazzle us with their spectacular physical feats. They generate millions of dollars of revenue for the NBA and their teams. They inspire adulation. But underneath all the glitz, the money, and alley-oops is a seamy underbelly, a rash of lawlessness that is gripping the NBA. Based on a first-of-its-kind investigation into the criminal histories of 177 NBA players from the 2001–2002 season, Out of Bounds shows that an alarming four out of every ten NBA players have a police record involving a serious crime. They are All-Stars and they are journeymen, involved in crimes ranging from armed robbery to domestic violence to gun possession to rape. Out of Bounds takes a hard look at shocking cases, with graphic accounts of physical and sexual violence and other outrageous conduct by players. In all, more than 250 people are named, including many prominent NBA players. It exposes the environment and culture that encourages such criminal behavior. It also explains the unique challenges these cases pose for law-enforcement agencies and prosecutors. And Out of Bounds takes readers inside the hidden yet critically vital role that lawyers, agents, and fame play in insulating criminally accused players from accountability. Author Jeff Benedict, an expert on athletes and crime, draws his conclusions from exhaustive research. In addition to his criminal-background checks, the author retrieved documents from law-enforcement agencies, courts, and private attorneys. He conducted more than 400 interviews with police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, players, agents, victims, witnesses, and coaches. What emerges is a disturbing and appalling picture of men who live above the law. A seminal and important work, Out of Bounds will forever change how we look at the NBA and its stars' lives of excess and privilege.
posted by Atheist at 04:45 PM on January 27
Give him the chair. The highchair that is.
posted by chrisly13 at 04:54 PM on January 27
You can take an athlete out of the ghetto and make him rich and famous, but you can't take the ghetto out of the athelete. And don't forget the secret decoder ring kids: by "ghetto", we mean "black". Does this author wear a white bedsheet on his head by any chance? No, there was a book written about the criminal history of NFL players, and it was ridiculous. Players, coaches, etc. I couldn't believe how many popular players had been accused or convicted of felonies.
posted by yerfatma at 05:37 PM on January 27
Why do some NFL owners put up with thugs? They put winning above all else. Now I'm a big Steelers fan and my views might be skewed a bit. But I know that the Steelers would never have drafted Taylor. Same as they would never take T.O. They want good players and good citizens. But the Dan Snyders of the world don't care about that. That's the sad truth. If all teams held players to high standards it would be a different league and still a good league. Sean Taylor is the next Lawerence Phillips.
posted by Claremore Rancher at 05:45 PM on January 27
All these athletes in trouble, and it doesn't matter what sport, makes me and probably a majority of the sports public long for the '50s, '60s & 70s when the only time an athlete was in trouble, was because of how many penalties they committed during a game.
posted by samtana at 06:56 PM on January 27
yes i do know a guy bperk
posted by humans1 at 07:27 PM on January 27
For every Warrick Dunn there are 500 Sean Taylor's. We need more class acts in the league. There are 500 Warrick Dunn's that donate to their old neighborhoods, churches, hospitals etc. But what kind of media is that. Because you don't see it on the internet, or hear about in the newspapers, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Don't be so damn ignorant and narrow-minded. Why do some NFL owners put up with thugs. Same as they would never take T.O. They want good players and good citizens. T.O. a thug? Why? Because he's a cry baby? T.O. has never been accused of a crime or convicted of anything. What makes him a thug? His skin color? The way he dresses? T.O donates to the Alzheimers fund, and was in New Orleans helping with that effort just like the Mannings. There were no cameras on him while he was down there. It wasn't interesting enough. There is no disputing his poor team attitude, and that he's a crybaby. But because someone has a bad attitude, that doesn't mean they need to be lumped in with criminals. Just because you don't like someone, that doesn't mean they should be in jail. I can't help but wonder why the NBA would be investigated and not the NHL. You would be surprised what goes on in BOTH leagues. An interesting note, the NBA has had 1 incident on the court that required law enforcement involvement in the past 5 years(detroit brawl). The NHL has had 2. Todd Bertuzzi's attack and Marty Mcsorelys attack. No mention of either of them yet. if ray lewis can get away with hiring someone to kill someone and OJ can getaway with killing someone i dont see why taylor wont get away with his antics as well What the hell? What does Ray Lewis and OJ have to do with Shawn Taylor? They're black and they play football? Ray Lewis did no such thing, and OJ was found not guilty. This is probably the most ignorant thread I've came across since I've been here. It is obviously motivated by race and culture. If it was truly motivated by criminal behavior, why would someone think a person spitting on someone is more criminal than a person assaulting someone with a hockey stick or attacking someone from behind? The guy that got spit on in the NFL had to wipe his face, the guy that got attacked from behind in the NHL is still not able to play yet. SI.com: Michael Grieco, an assistant state attorney, said the charges reflect Taylor's alleged threatening of three people with a gun in an armed confrontation over an all-terrain vehicle on June 1. The state has had this case since June and now they're filing these added charges? It's bizarre," Carhart said. Post in this thread: As far as the initial charge, Taylor pulled a gun on another man in a night club parking lot. The confrontation was over a woman Soon this will turn into "Sean Taylor pulled a machine gun on the Pope". Why can't the public wait for an athlete to be found guilty before we form an opinion and start judging them? Half of us can't even get the charges right. Do we hate the men who play the sports we love that much? And if so, why do we continue to enjoy sports?
posted by BlogZilla at 08:29 PM on January 27
he's just another punk over paid athlete being another over paid punk athlete.hope they're not to rough on him in prison.
posted by m067 at 09:19 PM on January 27
Thing is the regular guy that makes a stupid immature mistake gos to jail and the guy with unlimited resources walks. If you are poor you go down and if you got bucks you go to the links...(to look for the killer).
posted by kosmicdebris at 09:24 PM on January 27
BlogZilla...... First off don't come into my thread making bullshit accusations exspecially about RACE you fucking jackoff. This thread is about a young man who has so much talent but, potentionally has thrown his career down the drain if any of these charges stand. Oh and yes Sean Taylor needs some serious help because if he spit in my face I would of done more than slap him in the helmet being spit on is on of the lowest thing you can do to a person it degrades you and says your lower than dirt.
posted by BigDogintheCity at 09:26 PM on January 27
Yes, I'm sure you would have thrown down with an armed Sean Taylor.
posted by yerfatma at 10:04 PM on January 27
Is this guy serious? Don't come into YOUR thread? Hey uninformed? That's what this place is. You post a thread, and people say what they want. Your not going to "call your posse" or anything are you? You sound like 5 minutes of stupidity shoved into a 2 minute time slot. Do yourself a favor and unthugout as soon as possible. If you don't, I have a feeling you will most likely walk right into a verbal asswhooping. On second thought, I might not want to mess with "bigdorkinthecity". What city? Boise Idaho? When did sportsfilter hand out thread "ownership"? Don't play hard man, you make your "hood" look bad. Yes, I'm sure you would have thrown down with an armed Sean Taylor Exactly, 8 mile thinks he's the man. What a clown. I'll have no further communication with you. You can't get out of your own way fool.
posted by BlogZilla at 03:50 AM on January 28
Listen LOSER was Taylor armed on the field when he spit on Pittman no I don't think so. Get your facts strait. Also if all you can do is quote movies don't open your mouth. oh and FYI I am from THE big city LA, but none of the matters right now people are just tired of your UNINFORMED comments you've been here all of 18 days and all your comments are bullshit so keep your cocksucker closed and open it when you have something intelligent to say....
posted by BigDogintheCity at 11:53 AM on January 28
I didn't open my mouth, I typed words. And I didn't make the comment about you confronting Taylor, I reposted it. What's with the anger man? Are you going to cry or something? What people are you referring to? keep your cocksucker closed and open it when you have something intelligent to say.... You mean like Listen LOSER or Get your facts strait. or keep your cocksucker closed Breathe man, someone is disagreeing with you on the internet. You're not going to do a 187 on someone in Compton are you?
posted by BlogZilla at 05:43 PM on January 28
You sound like 5 minutes of stupidity shoved into a 2 minute time slot. I love it when I find stuff on this site that not only makes me laugh out loud, but works its way into my own lexicon. Nice.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 08:37 PM on January 28
BigDogintheCity BlogZilla is right and you should just deal with it. This isn't your thread so don't even try that bullshit. PLus, BlogZilla was replying to things people said that he did not agree with, some of which I don't agree with. What doesn't make much sense is that you have been here a few months, and still don't understand that in many threads the discussion turns to something else (not always a good thing). And, FYI the last few comments of yours have been much more uninformed than BlogZilla's. By the way, OJ was never found guilty.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 01:54 PM on January 29
I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. Maybe I used the collective word thread instead of saying, some of these posts. That was my mistake. It certainly wasn't my intention to highjack a thread. But when people start posting things like "Ray Lewis got away with hiring someone to kill someone", and OJ was guilty, just because the thread is about a black athlete that might have done something wrong(that hasn't even been proved yet), it makes me a little uneasy. By the way, thank you The_Black_Hand and YYM. It came to me as I was writing. It was such an odd thing to say, Bigdog accused it of being a movie quote. Also if all you can do is quote movies don't open your mouth I didn't catch the movie, anybody know what movie he is referring to?
posted by BlogZilla at 03:47 PM on January 29
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