December 29, 2005

if they earn it let 'em celebrate: Over the past few years guys like T.O. and Chad Johnson have been critisized for dances like these... but who's gonna stop them? not me! i think if they score they've earned a dance or two

posted by bronxbomber to football at 10:16 PM - 75 comments

The only problem i have with recievers celebrating is that every time they drop a pass they yell at the refs to throw a flag. tisk,tisk The NFL and all defensive players in the league need to stop bitchin about offensive T.D celebrations and the wide recievers and such need to stop bitchin about money and flags everywhere they go!

posted by bronxbomber at 10:20 PM on December 29, 2005

Also, the NfL is gaaining a lot more viewers with all the creativeness and stories like the sex boat so they better play there cards to there advantage and let some things slide

posted by bronxbomber at 10:26 PM on December 29, 2005

I think the NFL is losing viewers too. I know for me it has turned too showbiz. I just want to watch a good football game with-out the pinball machine effects i.e. Monday Night Football. T.O. got what he deserved, his word is no good and it is disturbing that crimnals like Ray Lewis are idolized by the media.

posted by boat4000 at 10:56 PM on December 29, 2005

I don't watch pro sports anymore and I used to love to. With all the money these spoiled athletes make and the attitudes most have I'm not interested. I do like the college sports though. I agree with boat. Every time I hear the name Ray Lewis I think "wasn't he involved in a murder"!!

posted by RUFUS at 12:01 AM on December 30, 2005

One of the things that turns me off of the NFL, and pro sports in general, is this whole notion that an athelete can act anyway they want. They can celebrate a good play anyway they see fit. I dont find it real exciting when a I see a wide reciever celebrating a three yard catch for a first down! Pro athletes need to remember that they dont really have a "blank slate" to do whatever they want

posted by daddisamm at 01:30 AM on December 30, 2005

I can understand celebrating a touchdown -- those are the point of all the effort that's being expended on the field -- but what bothers me is seeing a defensive back act like he's just saved the entire game when he makes a fairly routine tackle.

posted by alumshubby at 04:52 AM on December 30, 2005

I love watching Chad Johnson make plays and then celebrate afterword. There are few people in the world who can play football like these guys so shouldn't they get to celebrate if they score?

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 08:09 AM on December 30, 2005

I don't think there's anything wrong with celebrations and shows of emotion at any point in a NFL game. The last thing I want to watch is a bunch of guys competing on the field like a bunch of robots. A few weeks ago I was watching the Eagles play, and in the midst of their horrible, horrible season, it was nice to see Brian Dawkins out there playing with fire and emotion. He was going nuts after every hit he made. We're coming into the final weekend of the regular season, and one of the things I wonder each year at this time is which teams (and players) are going to roll over and put forth next to no effort in their games. Pro football players are destroying themselves and each other out there all the time, so they should be emotional and excited. They're risking a lot. The only problem I see is making the distinction between "celebrating" and "taunting."

posted by dyams at 08:34 AM on December 30, 2005

Like i said before i think that football players earn a celebration with all the effort they put into scoring a td but i also think they should show a little more "fire and emotion" and emotion when they screw up and drop a pass. Take soccer for example, their powndin the ground when they miss a goal but go crazy when they score. Im fine with that

posted by bronxbomber at 08:46 AM on December 30, 2005

They should not be stopped from doing it, just like I don't think you should be stopped from picking your nose in public. You just shouldn't do it. Whoever said, "Act like you've been there before," was spot on. Happy New Year everyone.

posted by sfts2 at 08:47 AM on December 30, 2005

I don't have a problem with celebrating a touchdown, what i have a problem with is how. We don't need a sharpie signed football stunt , a cell phone stunt or a marriage proposal stunt, just a little dance or group dance and let it go.

posted by big dawg 1966 at 08:53 AM on December 30, 2005

most running backs have the celebration down: down on one knee thanking (who ever) and then jogging off the field knowing they did something good (class act all the way)

posted by big dawg 1966 at 08:55 AM on December 30, 2005

Yeah, go ahead and celebrate, ya'll may never get to the end zone again, so act like it's the first time man, or the last time you'll ever score....show us all them funky dance moves, have the camera zoom in for a few crotch shots....shake your booty with the cheerleaders....how about dropping your pants and having some straight sex while you're at it! Let's forget about the rest of the team, all them big stupid linemen who made the play possible, let's just concentrate on the stars of the show....them ripped recievers deserve all the glory and attention for themselves. NOT! I say until the NFL cracks down and institutes a 15 yard penalty on the ensuing kick off for unsportsmanlike conduct the game will continue its descent into a WWF entertainment spectacle. Lombardi is turning over in his grave.

posted by old school at 09:20 AM on December 30, 2005

Every time I hear the name Ray Lewis I think "wasn't he involved in a murder"!! Not to go completely off subject, but he'll probably get into the HOF. To think that if Pete Rose would have just been involved in a murder, then he would have already been enshrined in the Baseball HOF.

posted by grabofsky74 at 09:22 AM on December 30, 2005

Does anyone mind if I apply this celebrating thread to another sport? As an old Yankee fan, I've seen Reggie hit the ball a mile, stand there at the plate admiring it until it clears the fence, then grin at the pitcher as he slooooowly trots around the bases. I've also watched Mickey Mantle hit the ball a mile, put his head down so as to not show up the pitcher, and run the bases. Mickey was a class act. Reggie earned all those Bronx Cheers. I always admired the guys who "Act like they've been there before". Back to football. From Don Maynard to Jerry Rice, the guys who make incredable plays - then calmly trot back to the huddle (or sidelines) get my admiration. The TO's of this world who try to make the NFL look like the WWE tend to piss me off.

posted by drevl at 09:24 AM on December 30, 2005

lol

posted by bronxbomber at 09:24 AM on December 30, 2005

What gets me is when these baby over pay'd players dance around when they make a simple tackle or catch a pass. Is that not their job? then on the next play the same LB or Lineman has his jock blown off by some running back. They should then stand in the middle of the field and point to themselfs and say its was my fault and let the fans cheer/boo them for that as well. Same with the wide outs when they let a pass tip of their fingers that they should have caught. If they want the good, then they should stand up and take the bad as well. The game is turning into to many I's and not many we's. When was the last time one of these over pay'd babys held and press meeting and said they played so bad that they where going to give back that weeks pay? Never will happen, But catch or run over a 1000 yards and then hold out for more money. The NFL is going down the Sh*ter and these babys are going with it.

posted by GBFan at 09:28 AM on December 30, 2005

i agree with the green bay guy

posted by bronxbomber at 09:38 AM on December 30, 2005

The NFL is going down the Sh*ter and these babys are going with it. The NFL? Going down the "Sh*ter"? Really? If that's what you think is going on with the popularity the NFL is enjoying, then I think there are a few other "major" pro sports who'd like to join them in the sh*ter.

posted by dyams at 09:40 AM on December 30, 2005

i cannot tell a lie. if i scored an NFL touchdown, i would party like its 1999. the NFL is in the business of entertainment. we must remember that, gentlemen. good sportsmanship doesnt get the high neilsen ratings. the Joe Horn cell phone TD was my fave. dancing around and celebrating after a 11yrd first down catch is a bit excessive though.

posted by grizzay at 09:42 AM on December 30, 2005

the only thing ghetto is your spelling dracula (plian?) celebrating is not ghetto ball i went to a private academy and we celebrated just as much as the as anyone else... how can fans first bitch about players not caring about the game anymore then when the players show some excitement bitch about that too?... its ridiculus to complain about something that doesn't even really affect the game

posted by thomaspearce34 at 09:49 AM on December 30, 2005

amen to that

posted by bronxbomber at 09:52 AM on December 30, 2005

Hmmm, why is it that all of these folks who "don't watch pro football" were attracted to this thread, and decided to post. I mean, I can't stand Baseball, but I don't jump into every baseball thread and say "Well, I don't watch the game. Just a bunch of spoiled millionaires." Hmmm... The league obviously isn't that concerned, and most fans do get off on the dances, as is evidenced by the fact they're part of more and more Sportscenter teasers, and the NFL network has their "Big Man dance challenge". Personally, if it were my kid playing Pee-Wee, I'd tell him to have more respect for himself and his opponent. But this also isn't pee-wee football. To say a defender is especially insulted by a dance after the same Wide Out has been talking about his momma all game... Stupid. This is pro football. You can't cover, you better make sure you stay back unless you wanna be a part of my highlight reel. That Wide Out's job is to embarass his defender. And to what level?? Do we make it a 5 yard penalty to give a fist pump after sacking the QB, 15 for anything that looks interpretive? Guys are going to be excited to make a play.

posted by LostInDaJungle at 10:11 AM on December 30, 2005

Personally, I think celerbrating is natural,and please we all do it.However taunting is another thing and is disrespectful to the defending team not to mention flat out rude and tasteless.In sports there is one goal to win, no one wants to loose or be the guy in second like racing. There's something in all athletes that give them that drive to win and the emotions flipping around in their heads is somthing that cant be explained to someone that hasnt experienced that feeling or hunger.

posted by countrygirllostinLA at 11:11 AM on December 30, 2005

What's a "Sh*ter"? Attempts to curtail taunting are in vain. Shit-talking and intimidation are part of male competition. Ignoring this is like pretending the lions aren't really killing the Christians.

posted by yerfatma at 11:49 AM on December 30, 2005

What's everyone's opinion of a fan who would rather see a wide receiver carted off the field in an ambulance after taking a vicious hit than see what new little stunt he's come up with to celebrate a TD? It must be the linebacker mentality in me.

posted by UniqueFreak at 12:09 PM on December 30, 2005

HMMMM, I thought intimidation always seemed to pravail over taunting and could be done in a classy manner. Im involved in alot of differnt sports teams and individual, and the taunters always seem to end up on the loosing end. So that must make me vain. I'm ok with that, and I sleep well at night.HAPPY NEW YEARS TO YA ALL!!!!

posted by countrygirllostinLA at 12:15 PM on December 30, 2005

Remember when a touchdown celebration was a simple spiking of the ball? Even that seemed to bug some fans, but at least a spike seems like it could be a genuine celebratory action fueled by an abundance of adrenaline and emotion. I think that the problem with the "celebrations" we see out of Owens and Johnson is that they're not really celebrations. They are shows performed for the TV audience. These guys have pushed the envelope, and over time, we've become desensitized to the point where any genuine celebration that doesn't involve an elaborate stunt (or at least a dance) is largely ignored. Let's wait a couple of decades and see what happens after a few generations of players have had time to idolize and out-do today's notorious showman athletes. Twenty years from now, when today's Pop Warner stars score their NFL touchdowns, maybe we'll get to see a marching band, strippers, and a live circus act with hippos leaping through flaming hoops as the player stands on one leg in the middle of the field and juggles defensive backs. Now THAT'S a celebration.

posted by Adam at 01:29 PM on December 30, 2005

LOL

posted by countrygirllostinLA at 01:42 PM on December 30, 2005

I do sorta miss the Redskins "Fun Bunch." I think the most enjoyable end-zone celebration I've seen was on tape from an NFL game of yore, when a Vikings(?) player grabbed a cheerleader and began to polka in the end zone.

posted by alumshubby at 01:56 PM on December 30, 2005

I say T.O., Chad Johnson, and Steve Smith should save all the theatrics for a Super Bowl championship. That is the time to celebrate. Scoring touchdowns is a routine part of the game. It is funny that none of these touchdown dancers has a Super Bowl ring yet. Enough already, boys!

posted by rexlex at 02:05 PM on December 30, 2005

touchdowns are routine?... how many NFL touchdowns did you score rexlex?... those are 3 of the top receivers in the league...talent coupled with personality is neither a bad thing nor should it be saved for any special occasion...

posted by thomaspearce34 at 02:25 PM on December 30, 2005

Score a touchdown....celebrate, make a tackle....celebrate.....blow a coverage but receiver drops pass.....celebrate....WAIT!!!! isnt that what these babies are being paid to do? Act like you been there before. Outlaw celebrations that draw attention to yourself, it sickens me.

posted by Sasquatch12154 at 03:33 PM on December 30, 2005

The celebrations are fucking hysterical. I like when a big ass line backer does his little "I almost killed you" dance or when a reciever does something completely off the wall (cell phone, pom poms, sharpie, whatever) It's fun. Sports are supposed to fun and entertaining let's not forget. Seems to me too many folks are taking this a litte too seriously.

posted by HATER 187 at 03:40 PM on December 30, 2005

I really enjoy the guys who look they are having an epileptic seizure when they celebrate a tackle or touchdown. I just wish the feild goal kickers would celebrate more.

posted by njsk8r20 at 04:17 PM on December 30, 2005

I don't think I could take kickers doing their own dances, celebrations, etc. after every field goal. In fact, I know i couldn't. I might even resort to being one of those numb skulls that run on the field, just to be able to stop that sort of nonsense.

posted by UniqueFreak at 04:36 PM on December 30, 2005

I almost peed in my panties when Joe Horn pulled out that cell phone.

posted by jenny at 05:13 PM on December 30, 2005

I remember when players had class in the "old days." They would sit the football down and walk quietly back to the sideline, stopping only to pat an adorable orphan on the head. That also reminds me of the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah - the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn/t have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...

posted by drjimmy11 at 05:18 PM on December 30, 2005

(the above story takes place in Nineteen dickety two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word for "twenty." I chased him down the road but gave up after dickety-six miles... )

posted by drjimmy11 at 05:19 PM on December 30, 2005

They could all learn something from the PGA where a class act is expected 100% of the time and achieved 99.99% of the time.

posted by STLCardinalfan at 05:28 PM on December 30, 2005

They could all learn something from the PGA white people

posted by drjimmy11 at 05:32 PM on December 30, 2005

Jimmy could you please explain those first two posts? Im kind of lost....

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 05:47 PM on December 30, 2005

I like the celebrating. In the CFL there is no league mandate to curtail any of it - and you get team celebrations, guys who have there own "go to" celebration guys (to pantomime like they're taking pictures, or being hit by the machine gun fire, etc.) and in general, it feels like its fun to score a damn touchdown. There just isn't any league emphasis on what you can and can't do and therefore no controversy when celebrations go down. We chuckle or snort and move on to the next play (of course, touchdowns are a dime a dozen in the CFL). On the plus side, fans actually do get to see some genuinely inspired and funny celebrations. They could all learn something from the PGA where a class act is expected 100% of the time and achieved 99.99% of the time. I thought the US celebration at the 2000 Ryder Cup was one of the worst examples of sportsmanship in my day. Leonard makes an impossible putt on 18 I believe to potentially win it for the US and the entire US team charged the green before the European player had a chance to make his putt to tie. Can't recall who the Euro player was.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 05:48 PM on December 30, 2005

I thought the US celebration at the 2000 Ryder Cup was one of the worst examples of sportsmanship in my day. Leonard makes an impossible putt on 18 I believe to potentially win it for the US and the entire US team charged the green before the European player had a chance to make his putt to tie. Can't recall who the Euro player was. Okay, that might be the .01 but I'm sure it wasn't planned or designed or practiced. I really don't have a problem with spontaneous celebrations in any sport. It goes too far, however, when they plan their celebration routine before the reason to celebrate even exists.

posted by STLCardinalfan at 06:05 PM on December 30, 2005

You would have to be a "Simpsons" fan to have a good laugh at drjimmy post. I am, but I still disagree with your sentiment. Is what these players do after a TD a big deal? Not so much. They can make themselves out to be morons if they want to. When I see Owens do sit ups, or Johnson putt a football with a pylon, I can't help but think what idiots they are. And what an enormous lack of imagination. For every time in which they did a TD performance, and their team lost, is an embarrassment to them in my opinion. They can stick their chests out as much as they want, good for them personally, but what if you end up losing the game, you idiot? Because, essentially, that's supposedly the reason they play the game. TO WIN! Not who had the best TD performance.

posted by UniqueFreak at 06:16 PM on December 30, 2005

Geez Bomber!Check your spelling&grammar!Huh?

posted by mdavidsf at 06:19 PM on December 30, 2005

STLCardinalfan, you put it right. It's the planning. It just reeks of sissy shit. I'm not an old guy, but where I come from, I was weened on a tough as nails, bloody knuckles football. And to me, these performances are for the sissies.

posted by UniqueFreak at 06:24 PM on December 30, 2005

've also watched Mickey Mantle hit the ball a mile, put his head down so as to not show up the pitcher, and run the bases. Mickey was a class act. Reggie earned all those Bronx Cheers. I always admired the guys who "Act like they've been there before". That was just the way they did it back then. Mickey was not the only guy who ran around the bases with his head down, they all did. The classy thing about Mickey was that he did it with 2 hours sleep and a hangover....and believe me he had been "there" before! Go Mick!... now that's a celebration! Seriously, I thought that the NFL banned pre-orchestrated celebrations about 15 years ago, when the Redskins WRs used to do some kind of "cabbage patch thing"? How about if the TV networks refuse to show the celebrations, like when a fan runs on the field? I think it's just a phase, but like the "High Five" it could be here a while

posted by at 06:28 PM on December 30, 2005

"Dickety"? Highly dubious. I was weened on a tough as nails, bloody knuckles football. I'll make the leap here and assume you meant "weaned". Your mother removed you from her breast via the lure of bloody knuckles? Makes sense, I suppose.

posted by yerfatma at 09:20 PM on December 30, 2005

Oh no, the grammar police got me! Do you have anything insightful to add besides pointing out someone used an e instead of an a?

posted by UniqueFreak at 09:29 PM on December 30, 2005

Nope. Do you have something meaningful to say besides suggesting football was somehow better when it was a bunch of wheezing old white dudes like Frank Gifford?

posted by yerfatma at 09:38 PM on December 30, 2005

Nope. Do you have something meaningful to say besides suggesting football was somehow better when it was a bunch of wheezing old white dudes like Frank Gifford Technically; Frank was not any older in his playing days than the players of 2005. They just look older in black and white. So while he has always been a "white" dude the oldness and the wheezing came after he married Cathy Lee.

posted by at 10:27 PM on December 30, 2005

I didn't think so. And perfect grammar to boot, you sissy!

posted by UniqueFreak at 10:39 PM on December 30, 2005

posted by yerfatma at 10:58 PM on December 30, 2005

Hmm, and to think i've been accused of trying to "fight" with everyone. An entire post to point out a word misspelled by 1 letter? UniqueFreak, 1 thing you must understand is that there are people here that will disagree with you. Some just point it out differently. 1 may disagree with a lucid, well thought out rebuttal. Others will say that you typing in caps actually hurts their eyes and they call it "yelling". However, your opinion on after touchdown celebrations is a little off. In the NHL, when a player scores, teammates gather to congratulate the goal scorer. Should they not do this because they are losing? This maybe infact what they need to get their confidence back, to maybe change momentum. Confidence and the belief that you can win in pro sports is sometimes as important as talent. (see every great sports upset in history). So, just as i made the remark about people agreeing/disagreeing differently here at spofi, some people display their confidence differently. Some talk a good game, some play a good game. Some do both (i.e Michael Jordan). When you're winning you feel good, when you're losing you feel bad. These are called emotions. People express their emotions differently. Its a waste of time to complain about why someone doesnt like a post TD dance when it has nothing to do with the outcome of the game. We use to call these people sore losers. If you want to stop the celebration, whip their ass in the game to the point that all they can do during or after the game is hold their head down. Asking a player not to celebrate is like asking the fans not cheer until the game is over. Atleast you dont see players taking their shirt off in 20 below temps and painting half their body the color of the team. My question is, why give a shit whos dancing if you're up 42 to zip.

posted by RZA at 11:01 PM on December 30, 2005

I certainly don't expect to be agreed with 100%! Oh, how I wish Chad Johnson to be paralysed from the neck down! Am I bad? Too bad! My opinion is wasted on the pansies. They want to have their pixie dances. Dance, sissies, dance! If that's what you live for!

posted by UniqueFreak at 11:38 PM on December 30, 2005

Asking a player not to celebrate is like asking the fans not cheer until the game is over. Atleast you dont see players taking their shirt off in 20 below temps and painting half their body the color of the team. Yeah, 'zactly. As long as no one is bothering someone around them, go nuts. We're here to see something happen.

posted by yerfatma at 11:44 PM on December 30, 2005

Sports are supposed to fun and entertaining let's not forget I don't go and see my teams in order to be entertained.

posted by owlhouse at 11:44 PM on December 30, 2005

I think there should be a penalty when a player does something as childish as pulling a phone out and calling "Mom" when they score, but I saw Jeff Chadwick (Detroit Lions) score on an incredibile catch a few years ago and he spiked the ball over the bar of the goalposts. 15 Yards! There needs to be some common sense.

posted by commander cody at 01:38 AM on December 31, 2005

Oh, how I wish Chad Johnson to be paralysed from the neck down! Am I bad? Too bad! My opinion is wasted on the pansies. They want to have their pixie dances. Dance, sissies, dance! If that's what you live for! I take it he scores on your team alot. I think there is a clinical term for this, something like Multiplhatersclorosis.

posted by RZA at 02:44 AM on December 31, 2005

We all say this and that but put yourself in their shoes and what would you do.Don't hate them because you aint them.

posted by urbighomie at 03:27 AM on December 31, 2005

I certainly don't expect to be agreed with 100%! This may seem a bit picyune, but in keeping with the spirit of this thread; You are mixing predicate "tenses". " I certainly don't expect(future perfect tense)/ "to be agreed(past perfect tense) If I may impose a suggestion, perhaps something of this nature." I certainly do not expect 100% agreement. "(future tense) or "I certainly did not expect 100% agreement."(past tense) This has been a fun exercise(present perfect tense), but I promise not to do it again, thanks(present tense). Yerfatma, thanks for the "Chuck Bednerick crushing Frank Gifford" photo. It has been a tough year for Eagle fans. I can't believe that it was only 45 short years ago that the Eagles won their last Championship!

posted by at 08:15 AM on December 31, 2005

they're sissies because they dance?... if they were such sissies then they wouldn't be there to dance... and what grade are you in to use a word like sissies?... did some one call you names at recess today?

posted by thomaspearce34 at 11:05 AM on December 31, 2005

I think the point of the picture was to illustrate to some of the guys crying "old school head down football" that, yes, in fact - there were on field celebrations even back in the good ol' days when men were men and their idea of what's right and wrong wasn't threatened by the next generation. My opinion is wasted on the pansies. They want to have their pixie dances. Dance, sissies, dance! If that's what you live for! Yeah, go back to bed grampa, or no more prune juice. I'm serious, no Matlock or regular movements for a month.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 11:07 AM on December 31, 2005

I think the point of the picture was to illustrate to some of the guys crying "old school head down football" that, yes, in fact - there were on field celebrations even back in the good ol' days when men were men and their idea of what's right and wrong wasn't threatened by the next generation. Point taken. The picture I believe was taken on the last play of the game. Bednarick had just seperated Gifford from the ball and his senses. He was celebrating because the Eagles had won and were going on to beat Vince Lombardi's Packers in the NFL championship. The raised fist is somewhat pale in comparison to what we see today. but it still looks like...Victory!

posted by at 11:36 AM on December 31, 2005

This celebrating stuff is a matter of personal preferance. Some like it, some don't. Nobody's right and nobody's wrong. My admiration is with the ones who make a spectacular play - and continue playing as though nothing special has happened. Kind of like - what's so special. I do this stuff all the time. When T O makes a touchdown grab, you'd think this was the first time in history anyone has ever caught a touchdown. If it's a game winning catch as the clock runs out - go ahead and celebrate. But if it's the second quarter of a game in the middle of the season, drop the freaking ball and head back to the sidelines. T O and a few other jackasses don't seem to know the difference.

posted by drevl at 09:45 AM on January 01, 2006

I'm sure that if most of the people here were in the NFL and scored a touchdown, they would want to celebrate too. We as fans celebrate when our teams score touchdowns, why can't the players scoring the touchdowns celebrate as well?

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 11:31 AM on January 01, 2006

i totally agree ying yang

posted by bronxbomber at 11:50 PM on January 01, 2006

Well put ying yang. However, there will always be people like drevl who has to let everyone know who he considers a jackass. drevl, they will never "drop the ball and head back to the sidelines". They will catch a pass for no gain and jump up like they just bitched slapped your mother. However, i dont think it will damage your children mentally, and the stock price of the business you work for will not suffer. Im not sure what has lesser value, the dances the "jackasses" do or the opinions we have about it. The funny thing to me is, the people who continue to watch the "jackass" after he makes the catch. You know he is going to do some sort of foolish dance, and yet you refuse to look away. Why do you continue to traumatize yourselves? You're secretly looking for new moves to try at the club arnt you? Tell the truth!

posted by RZA at 01:06 AM on January 02, 2006

I'm sure that if most of the people here were in the NFL and scored a touchdown, they would want to celebrate too. No shit, Sherlock. Then again, that ain't what we do for a living. As I said above, I have no problem with celebrating after a great game-winning play or a truely spectacular run or catch. It's just that acting like you just won the Superbowl after every catch gets a little tedious. drevl, they will never "drop the ball and head back to the sidelines". Sadly, this may be coming true. Gone are the days when Jim Brown, Don Maynard, Paul Warfield, Payton, Sayers, Rice, et al, would do just that. I can't see that the sport is any better for it. The funny thing to me is, the people who continue to watch the "jackass" after he makes the catch. Restate that to say - people who continue to watch the game IN SPITE OF the "jackass". As a Giants fan, my team has both "jackass" and Classy Guy. Shockey's antics after every catch gets tiresome. Tiki Barber, on the other hand, is cooler than the other side of the pillow.

posted by drevl at 10:46 AM on January 02, 2006

I noticed a guy on the NFL highlights yesterday (Clinton Portis maybe?) who did a "give the football CPR" celebration. The column mentions that Chad Johnson did that in October. Is their a creativity shortage in the NFL? Or has the retro gap become dangerously short?

posted by gspm at 01:22 PM on January 02, 2006

"Sports are supposed to fun and entertaining let's not forget I don't go and see my teams in order to be entertained." Then what do you go for Owlhouse?? An excuse to drink? If you're thinking sports is way too serious to be considered "entertainment", then you might look for a 12 step program. Sports are, and should be entertainment.

posted by LostInDaJungle at 01:34 PM on January 02, 2006

Very well put LostInDaJungle. Some people forget its a game when they have their rent money riding on the out come. Then you have the guy whos' life goes as his team goes. i.e. the team loses, he grounds his kids and beats his wife. His team wins and its Mcdonalds for dinner tonight. Some of us lose our grip on the "game" aspect of ...well...the game.

posted by RZA at 08:18 PM on January 02, 2006

The day sports stop being entertaining to me is the day I need to stop watching. I say let them have their celebration. Who cares, it doesn't really delay the game. They should even have an award for the best celebration (voted on by the fans of course) at the end of the year. They could call it the jackass award as so many of you keep referring to it that way.

posted by skydivemom at 08:49 PM on January 02, 2006

There's no I in TEAM but there is a me.Look,making a touchdown in the first quarter is not a reason to celebrate.If you're down 24-27 in the fourth with :30 left and score,then yes,celebrate.With all the energy you have left.Too many guys celebrating for no reason.I mean if you score a TD in the first and make the score 7-3 You look pretty stupid celebrating if you lose 42-7 don't you.

posted by rwdaven1 at 07:18 PM on January 03, 2006

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