FanDuel - WFBC

December 07, 2005

will the Seahawks beat the Colts in week 16?: the Seahawks have definetley been rolling this season, wit the combo of Shawn Alexander, and trhere defense..some think they have a shot at beating the undefeated Colts..let me know what u think

posted by Lionsfan20 to football at 07:33 AM - 45 comments

Nope. With a great back like Alexander and a very good OLine, they could have beaten them last year. BUT this year a solid+ defense will make it all but impossible for anyone to keep up with Manning and the offense. Too Many weapons. Harrison, Edgerrin, Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne. You can only take away so many options and Manning will kill you with the ones you don't cover. If he wins a Super Bowl, he will be ranked with Elway and Young as the greatest QB of our Generation.

posted by Wrigley South at 07:53 AM on December 07

I haven't seen Seattle much this year. On MNF, I don't know if the Seahawks were really amazing or Philly was so weak. That really was a terrible game.. The Colts, on the other hand, are seemingly always on TV here, so I've seen enough to know that they're ridiculously good - if they can stay healthy, it's hard for me to imagine anyone beating them. I'm looking forward to this game.. Finally, as for what I think.. I think you need to get a spell checker.

posted by blarp at 07:55 AM on December 07

This is just one of those years that you feel like you know whats going to happen. I think the only way the colts lose this season at all is if Peyton falls down the stairs or something. However he will probably be fine even if it was about 6 flights of stairs cause the man just doesnt get hurt.

posted by steelcityguy at 07:56 AM on December 07

Peyton's new Mastercard commercial is great. He even looks like a guy with a sense of humor. Seahawks and Chargers are the biggest tests - but that's all they strike me as: tests. Colts are the far superior team in either case. I'd congratulate these two teams for being able to get the spread into single digits. THAT's the victory.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:01 AM on December 07

I think the Seahawks will win but only because Manning and Co. will only play the first half. They ought to have homefield wrapped by then whereas the Hawks will be battling down to the wire against the Bear's and Panthers

posted by timdawg at 08:45 AM on December 07

Neither one of the teams could be using their starters at that point in the season. The Seahawks could have homefield clinched by then as well. I think the Eagles didn't even try on MNF. Seattle had a lot more trouble against the Giants & won based on the inability of Feely to make a field goal. Edge: Colts.

posted by bperk at 08:55 AM on December 07

I do not see anyone beating the Colts and Payton Manning the rest of the regular season, nor in the play offs. This Team is destin to be undefeated. They are better than the Dolphins who went undefeated. With a player/person like Payton Manning running the offense it is like a fine tuned race car. Payton has more charector than anyone has in a long time. He honored his committment to Tennesse when he had graduated in three years, no he stayed for 4 years as he was committed to an worked on his Master's degree. Colts go undefeted this year, it is in the "cards"

posted by ozzieosu at 08:57 AM on December 07

D-CAF (bump-bump) D-CAF (bump-bump) I think Indy will win at Jacksonville, clinching a bye and home-field and then (hopefully) start resting their starters against my Chargers. The question is, is the chance for immortality more important to Dungy and the Colts than being healthy for the playoffs?

posted by woody1090 at 09:03 AM on December 07

I think that there is too much hype and speculation aound the prospect of a perfect season for the Colts. What bothers me the most, is the debate on whether or not the Colts should rest their star players if a perfect season is still in tact. Its coverage like that theat may force a coach into doing someting he'd rather not too. This whole notion of "resting players" is silly anyway. You play to win games! just an opinion..

posted by daddisamm at 09:04 AM on December 07

Oh yeah, Manning's just full of character. Wotta guy.

posted by ursus_comiter at 09:12 AM on December 07

Does a team really want to go into the post season after just loosing 1 or 2 games because they just wanted to rest a few guys and keep them healthy? I don't know about the rest of you, but as a team wouldn't you want to go for that undefeated season? I really can't see Dungy resting players or just taking it easy and not actually trying to win games. I do not believe that Dungy is that type of coach. If he is the type to sit players because the team already has their post season spot wrapped up, well then watchout for the playoffs because they will be headed for a loss.

posted by grabofsky74 at 09:24 AM on December 07

If he is the type to sit players because the team already has their post season spot wrapped up, well then watchout for the playoffs because they will be headed for a loss. I hear people saying this all the time. Does anyone have any actual evidence to back this up? Have there been teams that benched some star players in the last game or two and then got destroyed in the playoffs? Can anyone name any? Or are we just perpetuating this by repeating it again and again?

posted by blarp at 09:40 AM on December 07

Different sport, but Michael Jordan used to develop "tendonitis" about 3 weeks before every season's playoffs, and would sit on the bench with his "injury." He managed to do OK in the playoffs.

posted by Bill Lumbergh at 10:03 AM on December 07

Well, I remember that last year, Pittsburgh rested its starters for a couple games, and struggled against the Jets in the second round, and got creamed by the Patriots in the championship game.

posted by RScannix at 10:08 AM on December 07

That is a SERIOUSLY funny commercial. I have NEVER heard of the Manning mooning incident. I worked in a C&W bar for a few years and was the guy who escorted the acts to and from the bus, drove them to and from the hotel, drove them to meals etc. The VAST majority were great guys (Gary Allan and Tracy Lawrence stick out in my mind) but some were total JackAsses to me and other club employees (Sammy Kershaw and Rich from Big and Rich) BUT all of them were nice to the public. I really want Manning to be a great guy, but I have seen celebs who put on a show in public, but were asses when no one but "the hired help" was looking.

posted by Wrigley South at 10:41 AM on December 07

As a loyal Tennessee Vol fan I had the pleasure of watching Peyton develop into the player he is now. He is not only a great QB but also a strong leader for his team. He plays so well under pressure and with him at the helm I see the Colts taking it all the way this year.

posted by Redneck_Woman at 10:48 AM on December 07

Anticipating a super bowl matchup, it's just possible that Indy will give the Hawks a completely different game than they are capable of. Very basic plays plus resting the super stars would leave plenty in their bag for the super bowl. Of course, Seattle might do the same. I see a game with two very coy head coaches playing close to the vest.

posted by STLCardinalfan at 11:07 AM on December 07

For any one who is flirting with the notion that the Seahawks have a chance to defeat the un-beatable Colts I offer you this flashback score, Seahawks 17 Redskins 20. On October 2, 2005 the Seahawks couldn't even beat the Redskins....

posted by cdlchad at 11:09 AM on December 07

This whole notion of "resting players" is silly anyway. You play to win games! Ah yes but with the ultimate goal of winning the super bowl. How diminished would either teams chances be after losing a few key starters? If I'm the coach, I rest the key players. The gain out-weighs the risk by far.

posted by STLCardinalfan at 11:11 AM on December 07

He is not only a great QB but also a strong leader for his team. Except when, you know, things go wrong. Sorry about the crappy BBS link... that article's outlived its non-exclusive ESPN life.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 11:28 AM on December 07

But what do y'all mean by "resting"? There's "resting" when a player is a little dinged up, maybe just coming back from an injury, but still could play, and there's "resting" when there's absolutely nothing wrong. In the former case, you're trying to avoid a situation that you know will put a strain on something that's already vulnerable; in the latter case, you're trying to avoid fate. It's a very different decision, seems to me.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 11:30 AM on December 07

But what do y'all mean by "resting"? There's "resting" when a player is a little dinged up, maybe just coming back from an injury, but still could play, and there's "resting" when there's absolutely nothing wrong. In the former case, you're trying to avoid a situation that you know will put a strain on something that's already vulnerable; in the latter case, you're trying to avoid fate. It's a very different decision, seems to me. The latter. Players seldom suffer injuries on the sidelines...

posted by STLCardinalfan at 11:39 AM on December 07

Hey Bat in the latter case, you're trying to avoid fate. Are you saying hat someone is pre-destined to get injured?

posted by Wrigley South at 12:07 PM on December 07

Are you saying hat someone is pre-destined to get injured? Why yes, Wrigley, according to the Magic 8 Ball...no, of course that's not what I'm saying; I'm saying that you're dealing with a possibility as opposed to an actual situation, which creates a very different basis for a decision.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 12:41 PM on December 07

As good as the Colts are, I think that the Hawks are better, at least offensively. Seattle also had a fairly good defensive game this last sunday, even if it was against the crippled Eagles. I say look for one of the best matchups of the year, or at least for a possible superbowl match-up. Personally my XXXX money would be on Bengals v. Seahawks. haha

posted by everett at 12:57 PM on December 07

I do believe Colts will come out on top, but will be a great game for sure. The Colts do need a shot of humility if they are going to go all the way. A loss wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to them {'85 Bears 15-1 blowout loss to the Dolphins}. That one loss had them thinking they were better and realized that with a Super Bowl blowout victory as well as the 2 playoff game blowouts. Wouldn't mind seeing them and the Bengals do battle for a chance at the Bowl. NFC probably has little chance no matter who gets in, AFC this season looks better. For all who take offense to that statement, I am a Bears fan all the way, win or lose. But in this case, reality says an awesome D cannot win the Super Bowl without a QB to steer the Offense.

posted by melcarek69 at 01:34 PM on December 07

Dude, Hass's arm has been golden...

posted by everett at 01:57 PM on December 07

He plays so well under pressure Oh, sure, Peyton's all about the pressure. University of Florida alum here, and I thoroughly enjoyed Peyton's clutch play year in and year out.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 02:59 PM on December 07

No one is playing on the same level as the Colts. Manning is the "Roger dodger" of this year in footbal history.He has too many offensive players and a damn good defence to go with. Payton plays at a level unheard of. He is unselfish, he credits the team for where they are, when it could be a fact that Payton has the team a that level. GO COLTS WIN SUPER BOWL XL !!

posted by ozzieosu at 03:26 PM on December 07

rrrright. here's my relevant comment from 1997 to match black hand's: brett favre for mvp! i think it will be a good game, but if alexander/james offset (which i'm not sure they do), i think the colts are ahead at QB/WR/Defense. colts will probably let down at some point, maybe vs. the chargers who i think have a better offense than even the seahawks.

posted by ninjavshippo at 03:27 PM on December 07

As far as Manning being a class act.....he seems like a phony to me. Anybody can act nice when he's rehearsed it. For me, I just think back to the whole "idiot kicker" episode; that seems to tell me he's an ignorant jerk. By the way, GO Hawks!!

posted by RScannix at 03:30 PM on December 07

I think it will be a good game

posted by Dav at 03:44 PM on December 07

The Colts are going all the way no im not jumpin on the band wagon thats not my team. but Peyton has that great offensive strategy the no huddle and i saw cinn. try to do it but its nothing like the colts. there going to beat miami's record

posted by 1manARMY! at 06:14 PM on December 07

Sheesh, I'd love to see the Colts play up to...well, what they seem to be projecting right now, which I guess I've got to call excellence. OTOH, I'm a Pats fan, and so that's where I've mostly seen the Colts, and based on that I wouldn't bet a sixpack on 'em. Logically, they should win the Super Bowl, but logically, they should have won in Foxboro long before this season, too. My head says they'll do it, my gut says don't count on it.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 06:23 PM on December 07

Tough to say: best case scenario is the Hawks are 12-2, the Colts are 14-0, which is hardly lopsided, hence the interest. There's no way Dungy rests anyone if they're still going for an undefeated season- the players might revolt (and I'd finally shut up that Dolphins fan who seems to still be living in 1972), and besides they'll already be getting a bye in the first round- no point in resting people too much before the playoffs, or you get rusty! The Seahawks are the weaker team, and still haven't "put all the pieces together" despite their record. Then again, Seattle'd be 13-1 if a couple of plays go differently, and they're getting better as the season goes on, which should worry a lot of teams. They didn't come out strong and then stumble their way to a decent record; the Hawks stumbled out of the gate, and now have strung 8 wins in a row. The Seahawks seem to have "focus-itis": that strange diseases where really good teams get cocky and forget to bring their A-game against mediocre teams and end up in a far more competitive contest than they expected. The Seahawks shouldn't have that problem against the Colts, because they all know that it'll take every ounce of effort to beat them. The Hawks may be playing for pride alone at that point, having wrapped up homefield throughout the conference barring a collapse against weak team before Week 16 against the Colts. They'll likely be 12-2 going into Week 16. Both Chicago and Carolina play some 7-5 and 8-4 teams before then, and a loss by either of those teams would guarantee the Hawks the bye week with 13 wins. Anything can happen, and the Colts could fall to a team like the Seahawks. I certainly think the Colts will bring their full effort, as will the Seahawks, unless the Colts have already lost by that point. Any silliness of "resting" won't matter: they're a guaranteed first round bye already, and that's when you rest your team for the playoffs if you have the luxury, not two weeks beforehand. Whatever the case may be, on December 24th, I plan on watching what will hopefully a tense classic, full of import and significance, in the company of good friends.

posted by hincandenza at 03:26 AM on December 08

Of course the Seahawks 'should' have lost that game to the Giants, Hal *coughJayFeeleycough*.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:00 AM on December 08

I hear people saying this all the time. Does anyone have any actual evidence to back this up? Have there been teams that benched some star players in the last game or two and then got destroyed in the playoffs? Can anyone name any? Or are we just perpetuating this by repeating it again and again? Awhile back (I don't remember exactly when) the Denver Broncos were the dominant team throughout the regular season, the coach benched the starters, and the Broncos got destroyed by the Jaguards in the first round of the playoffs.

posted by chmurray at 08:37 AM on December 08

*jaguars

posted by chmurray at 08:37 AM on December 08

Jay Feely choked and gave back that game that the refs handed to the Giants on a silver platter. The Giants,however, did not deserve to win that game considering that the league called to apologize to the SeaHawks for allowing 2 bogus TD's for NYG in one badly refereed game.

posted by westcoastexpress at 03:35 PM on December 08

I think that whole benching thing is the worst explanation for a defeat ever What about the teams that got beat when they didn't bench their players? People want to use any questionable coaching decision they can find to explain why a team got beat. I just can't see why resting a player would hurt their level of performance.

posted by everett at 04:29 PM on December 08

oh yeah, the giant game... bad officiating... haha... no really... go Hawks.

posted by everett at 04:31 PM on December 08

let me know what u think I think you need to find another site for this kind of post. See locker room discussion.

posted by owlhouse at 01:29 AM on December 09

What owlhouse said. What's wrong with this FPP? The article wasn't about "will the Seahawks beat the Colts", it was "will the Colts have an undefeated season". You can cherrypick links all you want and try to come up with one that takes the exact slant that you want the subsequent discussion to take, but it's bogus to misrepresent the link in an effort to create "go my team" chat.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 08:30 AM on December 09

The next-to-last time I thought a really good team might go undefeated, the #2-ranked USC Gamecocks choked against Navy 38-21. The last time I thought it would happen -- a little more than a year later, in fact -- the Bears lost to the Dolphins 38-24. In other words...if the Seahawks score thirty-eight points, look out.

posted by alumshubby at 12:05 PM on December 09

The Seahawks are going to loaded for bear, and the colts aren't going to be able to protect Manning. Just as we did to Vick, Westbrook, with our defense to the 265lb TE Brett Pierce (a really tough game where this weapon was neutralized by the Seahawks beating him into submission.) when they played dallas. The seahawks will hurt someone on the colts' team the seahawks have proven that they can play to win with back ups and now the weapons for the offense are back. The colts lines both offense and defense aren't going to be able to handle Seattle. THats the game in a nut shell for you, right there.

posted by SmoothDrRod at 12:28 AM on December 17

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