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Wednesday, December 17, 2003

Today's news out of Boston is that when ARod is acquired, Nomar will be traded for Magglio Ordonez. So much for my theory that getting ARod would limit the Sox in left. This makes the Sox pretty much awesome. Seems like we have a Sox or Yankees post every day here. When will it end?

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ARod is scheduled on the Today Show this week. Why the hell would ARod be on the Today Show offseason, not hawking any new products...? Perhaps he's sharing a homemade recipe for sugar cookies, or he'll be making some potpourri with Al Roker... Actually no! Katie Couric is the girlfriend of Red Sox owner Tom Werner. Oh what a tangled exciting media savvy web we weave. I don't know when it will end, but I can't stop smiling. And I'll tell you what: When they announce ARod as the new #3 and Ordonez as our new outfielder... I will go into a gleeful little coma until Opening Day.

soon, I hope. I hate learning stuff.

When did the Red Sox turn into the Yankees?

When is all of this going to end? At first, it was pretty exciting now it is getting quite annoying. Don't some of you agree?

At first, it was pretty exciting now it is getting quite annoying. Don't some of you agree? Yeah, mainly 'cause it keeps dragging on and because it gives bandwagon-jumpers something to bother fans about in the off-season, e.g., "Yuh, weah gettin' A-Rawd. Weah definit'ly winnin a Series, guy." Some way of keeping a topic like this alive so it didn't require multiple threads to stay on the front page would help.

"Weee-ah gettin a-rawwwd!" ;) I love making fun of Bahston accents. When did the Red Sox turn into the Yankees? When they got a smart owner and a smart GM, and the Yankees owner returned to his stubborn dumbness.

It is annoying, I just want to know how it ends. I agree about the bandwagon-jumpers. Generally, they come into the office and say something that is 4 days old. "I just heard they're gonna re-sign Nomah huh?" Or you get the Yankee fans that insist that Steinbrenner is going to get ARod... still. I have no patience for it anymore. When did the Red Sox turn into the Yankees? When they got a smart owner and a smart GM, and the Yankees owner returned to his stubborn dumbness. what he said.

But following a series of skeptical postings about the trade on a Red Sox fan Web site, a participant identified as "JohnWHenry" said, "Come on now. Don't start to waver on us. It's the holidays. Be of good cheer! It's going to be just a great, exciting season. Hang in there." The postings came at 4:26 a.m. Henry has confirmed that he uses that screen name for the "Sons of Sam Horn" bulletin board. Why don't worried owners and questioning GMs post HERE?!? We all love you, JohnWHenry! I will go into a gleeful little coma until Opening Day. You'll be in another one right after Martinez and Schilling hit the DL in May or June. :P

You'll be in another one right after Martinez and Schilling hit the DL in May or June. :P You're off my christmas card list, pal.

AL Red Sox = EPL Chelsea AL Yankees = EPL Manchester United AL Baltimore = EPL Liverpool AL Okaland = EPL Charleton (?)

is chelsea bad or good to you footie boys?

If the Sox get A-Rod and Maggs for Nomar and Manny then Epstein should get the GM of the century award, it's the best moves I''ve ever seen a GM make. This kid has been nothing short of brilliant so far. Sox vs Yankees games are going to be better then ever this year. Of course, I can't dish out all this praise for the Sox without getting a dig in. The Sox are still the Sox, so I expect something to go wrong for them. It's the Curse vs Epstein's gang of greatness, will the Kid's gang be able to overcome the Bambino's Ghost? Stay tuned to NESN this year sports fans for the answer.

All you Sox and Yankees fans are just jealous that the Mariners got Scott Spiezio. If only Bavasi's grand plan to bring back Omar would have worked, that would have put us over the top for sure. It's a conspiracy. [/bitter sarcasm]

jeffmshaw: Don't worry. You can still bask in the glory of the, uh, Raul Ibanez signing. *snicker* As a Blue Jay fan, it will be an even sweeter moment when the Jays win the AL-East title from the beasts of Boston and NY. *snicker* Oh, I can't even convince myself of that anymore. If they were to pull of this miracle of miracles, I'm pretty sure that our boy J.P. will be granted sainthood by the sabremetric hordes.

Isn't anyone scared of the Orioles if they sign some combination of Irod/Javy Lopez, Vlad, and Ponson in the coming days or weeks to go along with Tejada?

I'm excited about the AL East. I'm happy the Os and the Jays are making some nice moves. Its going to be a fun season.

I don't care what anyone says about the AL East - just you wait until interleague play. You will know the merciless might that is the Milwaukee Brewers.

You all are counting way to many chicken embryos on so many levels that this place looks like a genetics laboratory. Did that make any sense? I'm going back into my winter hole.

Isn't anyone scared of the Orioles if they sign some combination of Irod/Javy Lopez, Vlad, and Ponson in the coming days or weeks to go along with Tejada? Nope. The Oriole pitching staff is absolutely abysmal. They would be better, yes. Would they compete? No.

GENE ORZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAA! you bastard.

All you Sox and Yankees fans are just jealous that the Mariners got Scott Spiezio. Well, you know the old saying: As goes Quentin McCracken, so goes the AL West... Jesus, no joking, the M's new GM Bavasi may be the shittiest shitmonger since Shitty von Shittystein, III took over GM duties for the legendary Shitsville Shitters... his off-season deals have done more to make the M's unequivocally worse than any team in recent memory. When one of your offseason moves is to get a guy so bad, he had a negative Wins Above Replacement Player (meaning a scrub just called up from AAA would be worth 2 wins in the standings over this hack), the fans should be burning you in effigy. Luckily for Bill, most M's fans are fairweather fans and ignorant soccer moms who just want a non-offensive bunch of "good guys" to root for. Who needs a hitter with plate discipline when you can get a role model for kidz and big screen boat races during innings?!? Geezus....

...may be the shittiest shitmonger since Shitty von Shittystein, III took over GM duties for the legendary Shitsville Shitters... Definitely the shittiest sentence on SpoFi....ever. That fucking killed me.

Geez, after all the clamoring the last couple of years, the Ms finally bring in a guy who has baseball in his blood and then you guys jump on him in less than a month!

Hal: You cracked me up on that one.

SoSH just pulled the curtains -- no more viewing for non-members. Interesting times.

That sucks. Not that I could read it at work anyway.

billsaysthis: you're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.

SoSH is back for non-members. Unsuprisingly, the traffic and member applications have spiked since it's mentioned in every paper covering the story. You can blame JohnWHenry.

I'm a zombie today.

In your head.

I guess my real question is 'if I wanted to have a web browser open to get the news first, when it happens, where would I point it?' jg, any tips? is SOSH the right place?

seems like we, nyyfans.com, SoSH, and even just ESPn would have it right away - something like this is followed pretty closely everywhere. However we the boards have great discussion :)

This is fun!

boy was this jerk wrong.

Nice call, djacobs! Me, I dunno, I'm assuming that there'll be a non-test of the Emergency Broadcast System in Boston when the deal gets made. Trucks with loudspeakers will drive slowly down the streets, announcing the trade(s). Mitt Romney will personally parachute out of a low-flying plane, trailing a banner which states "A-ROD IS HERE." So I'm not worried about finding out about it myself. Dunno how the rest of the country will get the news, though.

I suggest Royal Rooters (redsoxnation.net) or SoSH. Those seem to sniff out the story first. Someone who participates in the royal rooters board also works in the building where the MLBPA is. He broke the news on Tuesday that ARod signed into building security at 11:10. There are moles all over those boards. If you are in the boston area, you may want to tune to WEEI (850am), like I do. My WorkFilter blocks nyyfans.com and SoSH, so I am a royal rooter. Plus, they let me join royalrooters, so I am all over it. Not a big fan of espn.com during this whole thing. They aren't getting the scoop right away. If I hear anything, I'll post it here after I stop crying or screaming, whatever reaction applies. 3 and a half more hours.

jeffmshaw, why should i be kidding? did bavasi only get the gm job after the ws or not?

on the radio: If Selig gets involved and arbitration is initiated, this could drag on for weeks. Courts, lawyers, depositions, testimonies... Its a good time to start drinking heavily. Extra booze in the eggnog this weekend, I'll tell you that. This is a tremendous PR fuckup for baseball in general, the MLBPA if it gets to that point.

that was the summarized quote of Sean McAdam. and also "This could go on into the new year." *twitch* *twitch* *twitch*

no, no! Hop from one foot to the other! That's funnier!!!

like Bugs Bunny being shot at by Yosemite Sam?

nice piece over at BP regarding the whole mess. i think that the more the whole things goes on the more chance there is that arod isn't going anywhere. and frankly, i also think that the red sox would benefit much more for this not to happen. obviously i also believe that arod isn't worth the money....what you can do with that extra money (what's the number $80m?) could be used in much more responsible ways. and i also agree that the union is right to step in so as to ensure that arod doesn't leave 8 digits on the table. it just isn't cool.....and it's not good business.

trying to get the gist of it all, so I am summarizing and typing the best i can...but... Curt Schilling just called into The Big Show on WEEI and is "pissed" about the players association nosing in on the ARod deal. "These people work for us, not the other way around" He's going to call the union because he's not happy. God, I LOVE Curt Schilling. And he just ripped Tony Massarotti from the Herald a new one for bitching about John Henry posting to SoSH. Mazz is complaining that the players/owners posting to the message board leaves the media out. Curt: "Its your job to get the story. Not the other way around...You have to report with integrity... without personal vendettas" etc. etc. He defends the right to go talk directly to the fans. "If I want to say something to the fans at 2 o'clock in the morning, I cannot do that through ESPN" He was excited about playing with Nomar and Manny, but he's really excited about possibly playing with one of the "5 best players of all time possibly" and Magglio. Ordway: "You are welcome to call here anytime you want" Schilling: "If you are badmouthing me or my teammates, I will" LOVE IT.

Schilling is awesome. Why does he have to play on my arch rival? Damn it!

on the plus side, if they trade him to chicago, I can root for Nomar. I've always thought he was cool.

I have more and more respect for Schilling every day. Of course, it helps now that he is pitching for a team I like instead of shutting them down.

More like this, jgirl: Schilling rocks ass.

Curt Schilling is my dad.

ITS 5 O CLOCK.

This trade will happen. My theory is Boras was using the Union in a good guy / bad guy set-up, and they'll both fold at the last minute. They both work for A-rod, in the end.

With apologies to Tim Rice... I've a duty as the union rep At the end of each trade On behalf of all the players I must scrutinize Every deal -- for a catch I don't care if you're an MVP No one messes with me I am ruthless in upholding What I know is right Black or white -- as you'll see I'm on the case Can't be fooled Any objection Is overruled Yes I'm the union rep and I know best "He's impartial, don't push him, he's unimpressed!" You've cut your pay Good for you But a reduction cannot go through Oh I'm the union rep, I know the game From the draft to the Hall of Fame If you're thinking of the kind of thing That we've seen in the past Big incentives, player options, Media coverage, private jet planes -- Not so fast These do not add up to salary They don't make up for cash In the end we're talking twenty-five per year So don't be rash Don't cut your pay It's bad for us Transcendent precedent sucks I am the union rep, and I know best -- "He's impartial, don't push him, he's unimpressed!"

Who's Tim Rice?

Yeah, I'm old and grey... Chess, the musical.

thanks bryant. just as i was getting ABBA out of my head you had to go put Benny and Bjrn back in there.

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