December 08, 2010

Luke Scott talks Nugent, hunting and Obama origin: Baltimore Orioles slugger Luke Scott stopped by baseball's winter meetings Tuesday and, after some harmless chatter about his team's offseason dealings, stated with conviction that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

posted by BornIcon to baseball at 03:59 PM - 31 comments

The editor's notes pointing out his obvious lies is the best part of that link. Please stop talking, Scott, you are an idiot.

posted by bperk at 04:15 PM on December 08, 2010

What is it about REALITY that some people do not grasp?

posted by yzelda4045 at 04:56 PM on December 08, 2010

Wow. Moron.

posted by THX-1138 at 05:20 PM on December 08, 2010

Scott should stick to talking about baseball.

posted by swerve at 05:51 PM on December 08, 2010

But he's still the most successful person ever from the trailer park where he was raised.

posted by cixelsyd at 05:54 PM on December 08, 2010

Now, I never have given a rip one way or the other on what athlete's political views are, but since it was actually bloggers in Hillary Clinton's camp that started the whole fake birth certificate mess, I'll give him a pass.

That damn digitally copied version that the editor includes is what keeps so many people on board with the conspiracy...the original has folds, a watermark, and a raised stamp, that don't show up on the scan. Silliness that should have been put to bed quickly, but dragged on too long. Why anybody would still be throwing that crap out now is beyond me.

The man knows his fire power, and is on target with the coyote issue. Damn varmits no longer go after natural targets...who can blame them when they have a buffet of house cats and lap dogs to go after.

posted by dviking at 07:35 PM on December 08, 2010

If Sarah and Todd split up, she's got somebody to keep her warm at night.

posted by outonleave at 07:57 PM on December 08, 2010

but since it was actually bloggers in Hillary Clinton's camp that started the whole fake birth certificate mess, I'll give him a pass.

I don't understand. What does the origin of a debunked smear have to do with its continuation? The facts are out there and if a person continues to believe in the smear, then that's on him, not the originators.

posted by NoMich at 08:34 PM on December 08, 2010

and is on target with the coyote issue.

really?

In most places in this country, if you see a coyote, you're supposed to shoot him.

Not so sure about that one there, Luke. Maybe he's referring to BLM trapping, or free reign given to ranchers to protect their livestock; I don't know. I do know that if his aim is as precise as his factual background and logic, nobody in the woods is safe with that redneck packin' heat. My wife said something to me a few days ago that's pretty accurate here: Stupid people should just shut the fuck up.

posted by tahoemoj at 08:43 PM on December 08, 2010

What does the origin of a debunked smear have to do with its continuation?

Nothing really, my only thought is that since both political parties threw that crap out there at one point, I'm not too surprised that some fools still believe it. Not a big issue to me, hence the pass.

As to coyote shooting, in many states they are classified as predators and as such there's almost no restrictions on hunting them...all year round, day or night, shoot or trap, no limits on numbers. Scott's home state of Florida is one of those states, and that may be where he gets that notion from. He is correct in that the coyote is now in a situation where it has no natural predators, and they now have adapted to prey on pets. Not the animals fault, but it is reality.

posted by dviking at 11:25 PM on December 08, 2010

No need to expound upon the coyote situation to this resident of Reno, NV. I see (but mostly hear) them every night celebrating the successful hunt of another unwary little dog or house cat. They even left a little bit of a fawn in my neighbor's yard last winter, a cat's head a few weeks later - just lovely. When I lived on the north shore of Tahoe, my 80lb female dog used to run around with them rolling in bear scat. Other people's dogs weren't so welcome, oddly enough.

It was just his phrasing that I questioned, the whole "supposed to shoot him" thing. Just sort of struck me as a bit of a redneck bastardization of "allowed to kill them."

posted by tahoemoj at 12:45 AM on December 09, 2010

He is entitled to his opinion, as is everyone in a free country. It's pretty harmless, I mean how many people are going to believe what a baseball player says? The last time I was influenced by an athlete, entertainer, or celebrity I was in 3rd grade.

posted by irunfromclones at 03:04 AM on December 09, 2010

He is entitled to his opinion, as is everyone in a free country. It's pretty harmless, I mean how many people are going to believe what a baseball player says?

Athlete or not, there is nothing harmless about someone whose alternate reality is impenetrable by facts.

posted by bperk at 07:17 AM on December 09, 2010

Part of God's plan that he's on the Orioles, at least partially marginalized.

posted by beaverboard at 08:41 AM on December 09, 2010

I love people who follow a willfully misinformed statement by saying "that's my belief," as if the fact they believe something should afford them tolerance from others -- even if it's complete bullshit.

But it's nice to have a reason to enjoy Orioles losses. So thanks for that, Luke!

posted by rcade at 09:35 AM on December 09, 2010

NOOO!!! I work at a bar across from Camden Yards. Please hope for the Orioles to do well! I can't do my part to help the economy otherwise.

posted by josher71 at 09:51 AM on December 09, 2010

NOOO!!! I work at a bar across from Camden Yards. Please hope for the Orioles to do well! I can't do my part to help the economy otherwise.

Don't worry. The Yankee and Red Sox fans will help fill the stadium when the teams visit.

posted by grum@work at 10:43 AM on December 09, 2010

I'm a big fan of Ted Nugent because he's a "keep it real" type of guy. He respects wildlife, he loves to hunt. I look at Ted Nugent and ... he's an American. He has the core beliefs of what it means to be an American in his heart. He lives by those beliefs and those principles. It's the same beliefs that our forefathers, who fought for our country, have. I'd be real interested in meeting him one day. Anyone here know Ted's military service? Didn't he dodge the draft during the VN war. I guess he bathes regularly now. Seems to me his "core beliefs" have changed.

posted by mrc237 at 11:21 AM on December 09, 2010

Nugent also became the legal guardian in 1978 of the 17-year-old he was dating (he was 30 at the time), had to be sued to pay child support for a kid he conceived in 1995 and has never met, and told High Times magazine in 1978 he crapped his pants to avoid the Vietnam draft.

Says Nugent, "Because I failed to serve in Vietnam, I feel an obligation now, to do everything I can to support those defending our freedom. Do I feel guilt and embarrassment? Yes. ... I wish I'd understood how important America's fight against our enemies was. But did I go to Fallujah two years ago? Damn right I did. And was I in Afghanistan, manning a 50-calibre machine gun in a Chinook - ready to rock? Yes. Was I there for years? No. A couple of weeks. But I am not a coward."

posted by rcade at 11:34 AM on December 09, 2010

Don't worry. The Yankee and Red Sox fans will help fill the stadium when the teams visit.

Yeah, they already do that. I'd just like to get some more dough when, you know, the Royals are in town.

posted by josher71 at 11:47 AM on December 09, 2010

You could go play left field for them.

posted by Mr Bismarck at 12:19 PM on December 09, 2010

It's the same beliefs that our forefathers, who fought for our country, have.

This is true. I have it on good authority that "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang" was based on actual letters that John Adams sent Abigail.

posted by Ufez Jones at 04:07 PM on December 09, 2010

Resulting in cat scratch fever, resulting in The War of 1812. Nice work, Ted.

posted by yerfatma at 05:36 PM on December 09, 2010

And was I in Afghanistan, manning a 50-calibre machine gun in a Chinook

What the fuck was a civilian doing "manning" any kind of weaponry in our armed forces in a war zone? Or does Mr. Micropenis actually mean that the soldiers/Marines he was with let him sit down with this machine gun just to let him play war for a minute?
-Nugent: "zzzzzyyyyoooooommmm...budda budda budda...vrrooooooooommmm...pickew pickew!"
-actual soldier/Marine: "OK sir, this celebrity photo-op is over. Let's move on now."

posted by NoMich at 06:28 PM on December 09, 2010

We all salute you, Mr. Nugent, for your selfless decision to play soldier for a few minutes. Makes you a much better person than all the draft dodgers who didn't get rich doing drugs and fucking groupies and therefore couldn't play war tourist forty years later.

posted by tahoemoj at 07:20 PM on December 09, 2010

I've lost track, who are we picking on??? Luke Scott, Ted Nugent, or coyotes??

posted by dviking at 07:25 PM on December 09, 2010

Doesn't matter, does it? They're all objectionable in varying degrees. Maybe we should move on to Justin Beiber next?

posted by tahoemoj at 07:53 PM on December 09, 2010

Leave Justin alone! You bastards!

posted by NoMich at 08:00 PM on December 09, 2010

Can we get back to me?

posted by josher71 at 08:59 PM on December 09, 2010

I'm a big fan of Ted Nugent because he's a "keep it real" type of guy.

Maybe, but he's got a dead arm and can't hit his weight. Probably because he's Canadian. He should fit right in with the Orioles.

posted by THX-1138 at 02:14 PM on December 10, 2010

I love people who follow a willfully misinformed statement by saying "that's my belief," as if the fact they believe something should afford them tolerance from others -- even if it's complete bullshit.

That's what makes him a moron. It's not about being conservative. It's about believing something so strongly that facts and logic can't shake your view.

Actually, it is about being conservative.

posted by justgary at 10:56 PM on December 11, 2010

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