Not only do I know what finger you've got up, I know what orifice it currently inhabits. Look, rcade, you posted this FPP about a tragic death. What did you think the first comment was going to be? Probably something like "How tragic, senseless and sad." Right? I don't know what about "how tragic, senseless and sad" provoked you to lecture a dead college kid for having a party at her house, but something did. In the second comment in this thread, you dropped your derisive comment. The "subject of partying at 3 a.m." didn't "come up." You brought it up out of the blue as a way to get your take on this issue across. Your point, as I understand it, is that you think this girl made a bad choice that got her killed. We disagree. I think that's a terrible way to look at this, a way that blames an innocent bystander who paid the ultimate price for someone else's awful decision. I also stand by my "you apparently posted this FPP so you could follow it up with that comment," er, comment, and frankly don't see why it's at all controversial. You began the thread. You were the second person to comment in it. Clearly that's something you wanted to say, right? So isn't it strictly accurate to say that you posted this FPP so you could follow it up with that comment? You had a vocal take that was different than mine. We argued. Isn't that, you know, the point? [BTW, if this is "personal" to you, then you really do need to get a thicker skin. Or maybe relax a little. Go to a few parties, you know.]
Hmn, our paper just covered preventing problem parties yesterday. Sadly, I don't think there was anything she could have done to prepare for this, assuming that she knew the folks who had the fight. This did not sound like one of those 300 person parties that get out of control.
My thought process went like this: 1. Man, that's a sad story on ABC News about the girl in Nebraska. I wonder what happened. 2. Hey, here's a story about her on the Nebraska paper site. And look, a picture of her playing this season. What a tragedy. 3. I think I'll post it on SportsFilter. Nothing else has been posted today, so why not make it my 274th post? 4. Now that's done. Wonder what's up on Yahoo! Most Mailed ... hey, that protester from the March on Women is hot. 5. Is she a lesbian? 6. Doesn't she kinda look like Cindy Crawford? I should post that a couple of other places. 7. Those stickers are going to cause painful abrasions. 8. Mmm, Twizzlers. 9. I think I'll check SportsFilter. 10. Look, a comment on my post ... yeah, it is tragic and senseless. 11. You know, that reminds me of what Gregg "the Hammer" Williams on KTCK says every time an athlete is involved in some middle-of-the-night trouble. 12. He's right. Nothing good can happen to you at 3 a.m. Poor kid. Stupid gun-toting dumbass. I realize at this point that I should defer to your authority on what I was thinking and what my posts mean, but this list is pretty much my entire thought process up to my first comment. The remark that you continue to see as a pointed insult towards Jenna Cooper was simply a lament -- a regretful observation. I've clarified it several different ways, but you continue to view every comment I make in the least charitable manner you can. You may commence looking for another reason to crawl up my ass. Knock yourself out, Jeff. Let me know if you find any corn.
This thread has entertained me all day.
Last post. Thought about trying to "crawl up your ass," but I couldn't get around the stick. On the substance: Like I said, I'm happy to let your comments speak for themselves. On the sniping: who is crawling up whose ass here? On preview: it's all been worth it if vito has been amused. Enjoy the Twizzlers.
Don't stop now. I've just got the popcorn.
Great stuff... like British Parliament on CSPAN, but without the veneer of politeness. Too bad it's about a girl's death, huh?
this was the only bright spot of my day!
I invoked the rule because you never hear about good things happening to athletes at 3 in the morning. I'm going to use my amazing deductive powers and guess that this is because, when good things happen to athletes (or anyone else) at 3 in the morning, it is a non-event...except to the participants, unless they're so tacky as to kiss and tell.
You may commence looking for another reason to crawl up my ass. Knock yourself out, Jeff. Let me know if you find any corn. Game, set and match to rcade. Last post. Thought about trying to "crawl up your ass," but I couldn't get around the stick. I'm sorry, sir, but the match is over. Perhaps at the next tournament?
I'm offended by rcade's taste in women. That's all I've got.
indeed, justgary. indeed. but, dude, he saw Devo live. *heart flutters*
the thing is rcade is probably this older man, that didn't have fun in college, high school, or anytime in his life. he probably didn't ever get invited to parties, was rejected by the popular kids, and that girl he had a crush on for years. he probably wanted to play sports, but wasn't very good. probably on a team, but sat the bench, or was just a manager. so he wouldn't know what exactly goes on at parties or gatherings that tend to go on late in the evening. let me tell you what went on here, seeing as i was actually there. a group of friends were celebrating a great season and spending some last minute time with seniors. the party wasn't wild, not out of control as you make it sound rcade. it was merely a regular gathering. jenna happened to be in the wrong place when this happened. she wasn't looking for trouble, despite what you think. the time of day has nothing to do with happened. this could have happened at 2 in the afternoon. we're not able to control how someone reacts to what another person says, regardless of how well you know them. You seem to be forgeting that someone died. Any individual with a heart would show some sort of compassion for the loss her family and friends have encountered. How would you react if this would have been one of your children? Would you have placed blame on them. I doubt it. I think anger would have hit and you would blame and be angry at the individual that killed your child. Do you know how many gatherings/parties continue after midnight? We have plenty that occur. it doesn't mean we're drinking or doing drugs. Have you ever heard of game night or movie night? If not, maybe you should get rid of your all knowing attitude and make some friends.
achusker, were you actually at Jenna's party?
let me tell you what went on here, seeing as i was actually there. I'm guessing achusker is going to say yes..
i'm guessing achusker never posts again.
Yes I was there. dano, why wouldn't i post again in response to all of this?
Sorry, I missed that sentence.
apologies, ac. i just got the impression that you had said your (understandable) peace and would be moving along. it didn't seem like you were interested in better of understanding of where rcade or this community is coming from. perhaps, i posted too rashly. (may i suggest further "meta" comments not directly related to the topic be posted in the lockerroom thread, though any details of that night you would be willing to provide would be very appropriate and appreciated in this thread.)
That's a pretty good guess, achusker, though the players in my weekly Dungeons & Dragons sessions could tell you that high school rcade knew a thing or two about parties. As for the "nothing good can happen at 3 a.m." rule, I think you've misread the intent of my comments, but I'm not going to get into an argument with someone who just buried a friend. Like everyone else here, I'm sorry for your loss.
achusker - I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. It is a tragic thing indeed. Please feel comfortable staying here and being a part of this community if it suits you to do so.
