Lendale White leaving USC: Is Bush the next to go? We'll find out tommorow.
posted by chuy to football at 06:46 PM - 32 comments
I am actually surprised at this...I thought he would stay, try and get his name out there a little more, maybe rack up a Heisman, and try to become a #1 pick next year. But, I think it's a good decision. He is definitely recognized enough to be chosen high and given a starting role, or a shot at one. Maybe, by going lower, he will go to a halfway decent team and not be stuck in a major rebuilding situation.
posted by RScannix at 08:13 PM on January 11
here's betting his pro career is more productive than bush's
posted by mjkredliner at 08:26 PM on January 11
I agree. White is a much better back than people tend to realize due to being overshadowed by Bush. He is a much stronger powerful back than is Bush, and should be better equipped to withstand the abuse at the NFL level. Also he has a suprising burst of speed at the line.
posted by Coleman at 08:34 PM on January 11
USC TROPHY WINNING DAYS ARE NOW OVER FOR GOOD ONECE BUSH AND WHITE LEAVES... WHITE WILL BE GOOD IN THE PROS CUZ HES ALREADY A NFL STYLE RUNNER....I THINK HE'LL BE BETTER THAN BUSH CUZ HES A POWER RUNNER AND BUSH WONT BE ABLE TO DO ALL THOSE INCREDIBLE RUN AND MISS 50+ GAINS HE DOES IN COLLAGE...
posted by AV13 at 08:56 PM on January 11
I agree with the above statemnts. White is set up to be a more productive pro back. What is Bush going to do in the pro's play back or receiver? He can't do both.
posted by chuck'n'duck at 09:30 PM on January 11
why cant he do both he can go in the slot plus with him carr would have more time that is if the texans get him
posted by Barry-from-H-town at 09:34 PM on January 11
As I can see a few of you know alittle about football but most of you know SHIT!!! Lendale will be a good pro back as will Reggie as for saying Reggie has no power that is where you are mistaken he can punnish you when you least expect it I have never seen bush take a hard hit he usually is giving one. He will do fine in the big dance as a RB/Reciever out of the backfield he is built just like Tomlinson of the chargers oh and hey they also train together. Well anyways jackasses that can't even spell "College" don't make ASSumptions. They will both have great pro careers.
posted by BigDogintheCity at 09:51 PM on January 11
Great choise Lendale. If Bush gets smart he will do the same thing.......I mean, lets get real here, put down the pom-poms and use common sence. First off, why would any of the college underclassmen who have a shot at making it in the pro ranks risk a career ending injury by staying at Bullshit U. They have more than paid their dues. Their playing ability has put butts in the stands and $$- a lot of money- into the Universitys bank. Think about the unbelievable sweet deal that the NFL has going. They have a "minor league"syatem in place that doesn't cost them a nickle. They get to pick and choose from a fresh crop of talent every year without having to reward the College that fine tuned those skills and helped mature(usually) the draft picks to an acceptable NFL level.Personally,I think the college jocks should get a piece of the action from the millions that they are generating to the Universitys. Seems only fair to me. Or would any of you out there work for the "glory and the education" alone.?Yeah, I didn't think so. The NFL should be licking the college's boots for their unbelievable good luck......!
posted by longrider at 11:34 PM on January 11
This will finally let Chauncey Washington (the tailback behind White)have some carries. Chauncey is a very underated tailback. Even though he was in Algebra 1 part one as a senior in high school, doesn't mean he can't run. When he went to South Torrance High, he would score 4-5 touchdowns a game.
posted by jsauceinyoface at 11:37 PM on January 11
This is a shocker to me! I dont get it, but hes a first round pick for sure. Watch the STEELERS try and trade up to get this kid!
posted by LiveWithIt at 11:48 PM on January 11
I know I'm ranting here but I want to comment also on the same old tired bullshit coming from the clueless group that always say things like; "How dare that thankless kid for not staying and entertaining me more". Or: "damn ingrates, Hell he's getting a free college education, what more does he want." Or; "Did you hear ( fill in a name-it's usually a black kid they're about to dis) being interviewed after the game"? Damn, what kind of major does he have? Freekin dude sounded typically ignorant to me".....You know what, that same idiot that disrespects that kid I can almost 100% guarantee you has never played major college sports-ever! Do they have any idea how much time the programs demand of the athletes? How many times the kid, after twice a day practices, has to sit thru hours of films of upcoming teams or reviews of his flops in the last game. All college athletes have more than paid the U back for the bullshit education they receive. If a few of them are lucky enough to sign a pro contract, then I"m thinking he's pretty well educated....
posted by longrider at 11:54 PM on January 11
Lendale has absolutely nothing more to prove at the collegiate level other than the completion of his studies. With his awesome play during the post season, his football stock has risen tremendiously. He has to take advantage of that. Hopefully, some role model with appeal to him to make sure he completes his studies (at his own pace/time if need be) and secure a degree. It will be THAT degree that makes him a role model to his own children, if he fathers any. Good luck Lendale, don't forget where you came from.
posted by babooze808 at 12:57 AM on January 12
I'm not a USC fan by any stretch, but calling them Bullshit U is a real stretch. They've won 34 of their last 35 games, and 2 of the last 3 national championships, not to mention 3 of the last 4 Heismans. And the entire USC offensive line is coming back, so it's not like the team is exactly fading next year. I'm not saying it's a dumb thing for White (or Bush) to declare for next year. (The Jets fan in me wants everyone and their horse to come out for this draft; it increases the odds of my club getting someone good.) But if Reggie Bush decides to stay and actually get his degree, think if how much he'll be The Man, not just on campus, but everywhere. The only three downsides would be not getting that degree, as well as a year's salary (which is nothing), and the possibility of injury (which might be something). I have no doubt that Bush will declare for this year, and really, there's no reason for him not to, but there would be some upside for him if he didn't. Look at Leinart. He understood the upside of not leaving college too soon. Think about this. Would you trade places with Reggie Bush right now? Do you know what kind of fun the highest-profile senior athlete in Los Angeles gets to have before he has to enter the workforce?
posted by chicobangs at 12:58 AM on January 12
LOL...good point. Must be all kinds of fun.
posted by babooze808 at 01:25 AM on January 12
Pretty strong remarks from someone who can't spell "choice"
posted by jajgrace at 07:49 AM on January 12
here's betting his pro career is more productive than bush's so true, i said it on another post before, i still hope white drops to the 32nd pick so the steelers can get him Do you know what kind of fun the highest-profile senior athlete in Los Angeles gets to have before he has to enter the workforce? i think he can have a lot more fun real soon when his piggy bank is full
posted by steelcityguy at 09:28 AM on January 12
The Steelers have a good back in Parker. I see no readson to trade up to get either of these guys. Although I do think White is the better pro type back both will have impacts on Sunday
posted by scottypup at 09:30 AM on January 12
so true, i said it on another post before, i still hope white drops to the 32nd pick so the steelers can get him I'm still confused as to why the Steelers trade down in this scenario (or how this bon mot is worthy of repeating). And I hope Reggie Bush drops to the 6th round so the Pats can pick him there. Still not going to happen.
posted by yerfatma at 12:08 PM on January 12
I think that reggie bush should stay and continue to break records with his speed and his agility.he should stay and shoot for the national championship again and try to win the heisman trophy again,but than again if he stays he might get hurt and not make it the the draft and all of his dreams will be gone.but it dont know i would stay and continue to break 20+ yard runs and be a heisman candidate.what do yall think who will be the first round draft pick out of Reggie Bush,Landale White,Or Vince Young???
posted by Texas Boy at 12:18 PM on January 12
Some of you need to read what you write before posting. LenDale has proven himself to be among one of the best backs ever at USC. He has proven that you dont have to win the Heisman to be good. He outrushed Reggie Bush career wise, and scored more touchdowns then any RB ever there. Im glad to see him go early. Gives us a better chance next year to end the losing streak !!
posted by bruinfan2006 at 12:28 PM on January 12
Once again don't open the mouth until the facts are strait he had more touchdowns than bush but bush as the overall yard lead ok so he didn't out rush he out scored reggie. Ok just wanted to get that fact strait. I am glad he is going to the NFL he is a great back as is Bush.
posted by BigDogintheCity at 12:50 PM on January 12
or how this bon mot is worthy of repeating yerfatma, its worth repeating so I can get a laugh when people right things like this thankyou
posted by steelcityguy at 12:51 PM on January 12
AP just reported that Bush has declared to skip his senior sesion
posted by BigDogintheCity at 12:59 PM on January 12
LenDale has proven himself to be among one of the best backs ever at USC. Ok, but where is he on that list? Isn't USC like Tailback U or something? Has he already proven himself better than OJ, Marcus Allen, Ricky Bell, Frank Gifford, Sam Cunningham and Reggie Bush?
posted by yerfatma at 01:57 PM on January 12
yerfatma, you've got to stop letting facts and statistics get in the way of ill-informed, opinion-fueled arguments.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 02:48 PM on January 12
White will do better in the NFL than Bush. White is the best USC back. If the Media would not have jumped on the Bush bandwagon white would have been the Heisman trophy champ and the top pick. Look at their career #'s. both are Juniors and only 10 rush yards seperate them( bush had way more carries). The TD #'s is not even a contest. White blows Bush out of the water. * Bush is over rated. He would not be able to do what he did if he did not play for USC. He had a Heisman winner QB the best line in the NCAA, A TE that will go pro, and a back up RB that was better than him.
posted by Dallas at 04:46 PM on January 12
I think the Trojans will still be able to contend for a national title, even with White, Bush, and Lienart going pro. Remember, the Trojans won a nation title after Palmer left, and John David Booty is probably better than a vast majority of starting Division One quarterbacks.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 06:32 PM on January 12
He would not be able to do what he did if he did not play for USC. And if my mother had wheels she'd be a bicycle. He certainly benefited from being in a great program, but USC is a great program (to some extent) because they're a great program, which means they can recruit great talent. It's not like they passed on a bunch of people to recruit Bush. He seemed to be pretty good in high school too. Probably just the program.
posted by yerfatma at 07:14 AM on January 13
Alan Iverson couldn't carry the jocks of guys like Jerry West, Bob Cousey, Oscar Robertson, And most of the former NBA greats that played in a much tougher league. Expansion and watered down talent have made the league a shooters showcase where ball handling, passing and defense isn't even encouraged. Throw in the fact that traveling with the ball, palming the ball and 3 second violations are rarely if ever called -unlike the way they were called 10 years ago-and you got Iverson and his look a likes claiming greatness to all that are swooned by the tats or whatever. It's all about showing off and playground rules in the NBA. Don't believe that the avg. basketball fan is fed up with the flophouse called the NBA? Check and see where there attendance numbers really are!
posted by longrider at 01:25 AM on January 14
So where will White go in the draft? Ostensibly, a better team than Houston will wind up with him, so he won't have to run behind the swiss-cheese line that Bush will have. If White slips into the middle of the pack, he could wind up in a situation akin to the one in Kansas City, where Larry Johnson made the most of not having to step in on day one.
posted by ajaffe at 09:07 AM on January 14
Longrider you seem to be in the wrong thread.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 09:55 AM on January 14
(yerfatma)He seemed to be pretty good in high school too. Probably just the program........ Most D-1A Running Backs do look good in high school. That is why they go D-1A (Duh!). I had three games rushing for over 200 yards when I was in high school and went D-1AA. It is easy to look good in high school. On most high school teams you don't even have to try out. You just have to be a kid age 14 to 19 that goes to that school. As an 18 year old Tailback I could run over those 15 and 16 year old LBs and DBs all day long. Heck, I might just pull out some of those old tapes tonight to help me feel good about myself.
posted by Dallas at 12:09 PM on January 16
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