The coaches poll is easy... vote all the teams you play against high and all the ones you don't low. Gotta get that strength of schedule number up there somehow. Coaches should not have a poll they know their own team and whatever opponent they are playing that week. The only time they see any other teams is the highlights on Sportscenter.
Speak when spoken to and keep your comments to those that care about what you say. Irony, please pick up the white courtesy phone...Irony, you have a call on the white courtesy phone. UofM is the true #2. Every major college football poll in America disagrees with you. I'm sure you're right and they're wrong, though. Playing Michigan so tight (AT HIS HOME) What year did this happen? The OSU - UM game this year wasn't even close. If it wasn't for two bad shotgun snaps by a center with a broken hand, Michigan doesn't even close to within ten points. You lost. Get over it. the florida coach whined his way into the champion ship game as usual the large concntration of teams in the south make this posiable. i have been following football since the late 50s and this has been an on going problem remember the year that notre dame pounded florida state and lost a late season game to bc on a last second field goal yet florida state was voted number one even though being whipped by notre dame who was number one untill the bc lost and had convincely beat florida state. lets see how the sec fares in the bowl games Worst. Post. Ever. I'd also like to go on record right now as saying that while I do believe that Ohio State is very probably the best team in America, this constant badgering of Florida as some worthless collection of bums is wrong and just plain ignorant. If you know anything about football, college football in particular, then you know that the SEC is indeed one of the toughest conferences in America, a meatgrinder that often kills its best teams because of the in-conference play. Find me a conference that has more teams in the AP poll, the BCS poll, the Coaches poll, anywhere. You can't. Your team didn't make it; your team couldn't even win their own conference; your team has already come up short against OSU. Acting like a spoiled child and disparaging a quality team that's played winning ball all year long in a very difficult conference just makes you look like a punk. For God's sake, stop acting like whining curs and be happy with the fact that you'll (likely) finish in the top five in the nation, ahead of 98% of the college football squads in America.
For goodness' sake! Stop making OSU the instant winner here. Didn't UCLA vs. USC just show us that the most talented team doesn't always win? Talent-wise, I do believe that Michigan is the most talented team. But the Florida schedule was undoubtedly way tougher than the Michigan schedule. I don't understand this SEC bashing and would appreciate it if anyone would care to explain. Sure the perennial powerhouses aren't as strong this year, but the conference certainly has become way more competitive among itself with the traditional bottom-schools becoming more competitive. The only common opponent between Michigan and Florida was Vanderbilt, which Michigan played in the beginning of the year (27-7) and Florida played late-year (25-19). While the score indicates a better game by Michigan, take into account that Michigan was at home and Florida away. Also take into account that Vandy was starting a new quarterback for the first time in a very hostile environment in the game versus Michigan. Thus I don't consider it a big surprise that the Vandy offense would have made strides during the season in developing their offense that would have made a game against Michigan closer. And lastly, Vandy was the #6 team in the SEC East. The #6 in the Big Ten is a woeful Minnesota team that hardly got by North Dakota State at home. South Carolina, second to last in the SEC East, beat a Top-25 opponent. Not even Wisconsin can claim that (though I do not dispute their ability, but do dispute their strength of schedule). And outside of a widely-accepted as overrated Notre Dame team, Wisconsin was Michigan's biggest win. So while talent-wise, Michigan can very well be argued for as better than Florida, they suffered from their conference not truly testing them. And I will agree wholeheartedly with the OSU-Michigan score not being nearly as close as the scoreboard said. Florida, meanwhile, scraped by most of their games. But these games were mostly against teams that truly offer a legitimate challenge and can very well swing the upset if you don't come to play. What this tells me is that Florida is better suited to keep up with good opposition week-in and week-out. That said, I believe both Michigan and Florida are capable of being OSU, and think the instant crown as OSU being dominant is a display of ignorance. I'll grant OSU the odds, but upsets aren't hard to come by when both teams are extremely talented. As for Florida over Michigan, I'll base that decision on the former having proved more during the season despite the latter appearing more talented. Lastly, regarding Tressel: I see absolutely nothing wrong with what he did. If he felt an above-average bias (if he had picked Florida #2 and Michigan #3, this forum would have likely bashed him for wanting to play "the weaker team" and conversely if #2 was Michigan, certainly some people would argue he's just voting for his conference and not on objectivity) then he shouldn't have to vote. I see this as people trying to make something out of nothing.
AMEN! I do not think a wiser and more complete post has ever been seen on SpoFi. Thank you PublicUrinal.
THE Ohio State University -- (www.terradaily.com) Started by Heisman winner Eddie George to show off his Buckeye pride which was spread to all the other Buckeyes in the NFL. I can't wait until The Ohio State University is the first team to beat not 1, not 2, but 3 number 2 teams in a single season, has the best BCS record and undefeated in it, is the FIRST team to have a perfect 1.00 ranking with the FIRST victory over Florida. Great year for Buckeye Nation! btw UCLAs win was not at all a surprise to me. They barely beat them with Leinart, Bush, and White. Why would they without?
I have to admit, as a die-hard Michigan fan, it really doesn't matter who plays Ohio State (no, I won't call them THE Ohio State University ... that's gay). That took some of the burn out of the BCS decision. They are really that good. Scary good. To possibly lose two consecutive games to them would have been like really bad dry heaves. Next year is Michigan's year.
The final Coaches' Poll (Flash) where you can look at each ballot. Didn't see it posted elsewhere, ignore if it was.
I thought Miami was going to crush their opponent in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl.
The final Coaches' Poll (Flash) where you can look at each ballot. Didn't see it posted elsewhere, ignore if it was. NICE! If you look carefully you can see how politics play into each coaches vote. All the teams that they have played will be ranked highly, while those they didn't are not.
btw UCLAs win was not at all a surprise to me, They barely beat them with Leinart, Bush, and White. Yep, just barely. UCLA's furious rally in the 4th had 'em on the ropes.
vote all the teams you play against high and all the ones you don't low. Gotta get that strength of schedule number up there somehow. Ding ding ding, we have a winner, and as yay-yo notes, that's what happened. With the exception being that you apparently don't vote up your traditional rival when you're #1. Look, the SEC is the SEC, but to pick up on PublicUrinal's great comment, there have been matchups on Florida's schedule where it feels as if coaches voted on reputation over performance. From this story:
Florida played 10 bowl teams and beat nine, including road wins against Tennessee and Florida State, neutral site wins against Georgia and Arkansas and home victories against LSU and Alabama. The Gators lone loss? At Auburn, 27-17.
That summary papers over so many cracks. FSU was
rubbish this year, and plays in the Bowl of Nuts or whatever consolation bowl. UGA was pretty crappy too, and it still managed to get also-ran votes in the coaches' polls, especially from fellow SEC coaches. (SoS calling...) Anyway, if Michigan fans are sore losers, then OSU fans here come across as sorer winners.
He wanted to make a ststement that he is ready to play anybody. Like you decide we 'll play them!
I wonder if Florida would have jumped ahead of Mich in the final poll if USC beats UCLA? Fla was ranked below Mich going into the final poll. Lots of political agendas out there to keep the Big 10 from having an assured national championship and reaping the financial rewards that come with playing in the big game. I am an Ohio State fan and believe Coach Tressel should have voted for his conferance. Every other Big 10 coach voted for Mich as the #2 team. I have great respect for the job Coach Tressel has done and believe in retrospect he might feel that he made a mistake by not voting. Oh well, we all make mistakes sometimmes in our lives. I saw on ESPN that the Vegas odds for a Fla vs Mich game would have Mich as a 7 point favorite. When USC lost, I was hoping that the voters and the BCS polls would put the 2 best teams on the field to decide it all. Was it Fla's 13th game that put them over the top? Is that fair? Mich only loss was to the #1 team in the country on the road by 3 pts.. Fla lost to Auburn on the road by 10 pts. and how do you justify Auburn leaping in the polls in the final week. I guess the voters and the BCS had to somehow justify putting Fla in the #2 slot. The best game out there will not be replayed this year. Too bad, I really wanted to see the Buckeyes beat Mich twice in one year!!
What is with the sonnet comments? They drive me insane.
Every other Big 10 coach voted for Mich as the #2 team. Nope, not Zook. After the games of Nov. 11, USC jumped from 7th in the BCS to 3rd. Florida stayed at #4. That is where Florida got screwed. Otherwise they would have been 3rd when UM lost to OSU and would have moved up to 2nd then. I blame USC for any confusion. This is pretty simple, since the first week of the BCS standings, every team who was in front of Florida has lost at least once. (except for OSU)
Do a google search for "overrated" and see the second hit on the list.
Do a google search for "overrated" and see the second hit on the list. That's bullshit.
