oh yeah, this year he suspended Xavier Lee [the back up qb] for 2 games for academic reasons. as it turned out we needed him for the vt game and had to go to a redshirt freshmen for three quarters and went into the 4th quarter with the lead. only to lose it because of the great defensive adjustments by vt. we've got plenty of depth. and we will have to prove that in the music city bowl. i quess we will have to wait and see.
You two are really hitting each other hard aren't you? In all fairness, Bowden is way past his prime. Although he will be remembered as a great coach, let's face it, he's no Paterno. Just when you think the game has passed him by he suprises you. No I'm not a Penn State fan. I agree with Mickster that Fl St has not been a real contender in years. Big deal they won the ACC in 2005. Like the ACC's been that tough the past 4 to 6 years? That's not what this is about anyway. in my personal opinion I think people need to look at the big picture. At major schools football is what puts $ in their pockets. Yes, it is a school and you're there to get an education. Don't you think for 1 minute that major schools want to lose $. The better you are the more air time your going to get. The more air time you get the more $ you get. Florida State is going to lose $. The aftershock of this is going to be bigger than you think. Recruits who maybe are great on the field but not so great in the classroom r going 2 think twice about Fl St. Look, when it comes down to it, players put buts in the seats, in turn the university, the Alumni and other donors contribute more $. Ethics my ass, a major University needs to know what battles to fight and what battles to leave alone. For Fl St to even report this, in my opinion, is a serious mistake. Believe me, they had bigger fish to fry than players cheating on a music exam. I know I'm going to get the age old, "Educations first and athletics are 2nd", and "That's the problem with America today", and "This is why our moral standards as a whole are crumbling". MONEY, MONEY, MONEY....That's what college sports are about like it or not. A lot of players do go through school and do not do anything in the classroom, a lot of players do their own work and graduate. athletes will always get special treatment, It will always be that way like it or not. You want be overly "ETHICAL", O.K. but your going to lose recruits.
i don't think it is going to hurt recruting as much as you think. securing jimbo for life after bobby is a good move. a lot of kids in the past few years have made a decision on a school thinking bobby is done and not knowing the future. remember fsu has "only" been playing football since 1947, and won there confrence in 48/49&50. your right who cares about the confrence championship anyway. our goal is a national championship, where most schools seem to only care about a confrence championship. your right it is and always will be about money. very sad. everything seems to be driven by money.
our goal is a national championship, where most schools seem to only care about a confrence championship. What? What schools only care about a conference championship? That's the first I've heard that ever said. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but you talk like Fl St. is still a powerhouse. With all due respect they haven't been a major factor in the grand scheme of things for a long time. They make a BCS game here and there but they really have been insignificant. They were 6th in ACC play this year. LOL No offense but that sucks. When Wake and BC outplay you in the same season somethings wrong. Not to take anything away from those teams but in days of old Fl State would have had them for breakfast. our goal is a national championship You have to win the ACC first and from what it looks like that isn't going to happen anytime soon. securing jimbo for life after bobby is a good move It soesn't matter who you secure, if your school is getting a reputation for squeling on its athletes the recruiting is going to be an uphill battle.
...if your school is getting a reputation for squeling on its athletes the recruiting is going to be an uphill battle. FSU had to tell the NCAA about this. Otherwise, if the NCAA got wind of this cheating scandal, without FSU telling them, then I'm sure they would've put the hammer down on the school's athletic department. Losing scholarships and bowl eligibility does a lot more harm to a school's football program than some theoretical recruitment hurdle. Just ask Auburn and Clemson.
Say what you want, FSU could have kept it under wraps. I realize a lot of people disagree with that and that's fine. Yes I agree that being bowl ineligable would significantly hurt your program. That's only common sense. As for a football rpogram having a "theoretical" hurdle, well that remains to be seen. The NCAA can get wind of anything they want, proving it happened is a different story. That's just my opinion.
we beat bc in all aspects of the game. the last time bc lost at home before we beat them this year was 2 years ago to fsu. they were ranked #2 when we beat them this year. LOL!!!!!!!!! if the ncaa wants to get a school, any school all they have to do is focus in on them and they will find something. to blame everything on a coach, no matter who it is, is not fair to the coach. he can only do so much. these kids are, for the most part, out of control. not to mention spoiled. every day you hear about a high profile athlete having a run in with the law. thanks NoMich, good point. and oh by the way has anybody ever won three championships in a row? in any division? Appalachian State!!! there not squeling on their athletes, their keeping their butts clean.
I was looking over all of the comments and I wanted to point a few things out to you: we have played in more bcs title games than anyone else You've been in 3 Which is how many osu will be in....statement not true. we are a contender every year Really? Umm the last I saw 2001 was you last "Contender Year" Statement not true we have been to more conceutive bowl games than anyone Now this one I love. This was very creative, but again....statement not true. (I'm not going to sit here and mane them all but there is a number of teams that have been to as many or more consecutive bowls....do the research) 14 years in the top 4 Really? What poll again? again....statement not 100% true. let alone stay with the same program that long Oh I don't know....Joe Paterno ring a bell? statement not true I understand that you're an FSU fan but please get your facts right.
i do know that most of the country couldn't wait to see fsu down. it sure did take a long time for that to happen. i'll take it. when we get our butts back on top again, it will be worth it to be there for 14 more years.LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do more research. 14 years top 4. 10 win seasons. ap poll.
2000 2001 2003 2004 penn state had losing seasons and no bowl. bobby has never had a losing season at fsu.
Fellas, get a room.
the last time fsu didn't go to a bowl was 1981
just the facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do more research. 14 years top 4. 10 win seasons. ap poll. posted by rwstclair42 at 2:20 PM CST on December 20 I did, that statement is not entirely true. But you can believe what you want. FSU was always a joke because of thier light schedules. If you remember FSU was the reason why "Strength of Schedule" was taken out as a factor in the rankings. To brag about 10 win seasons is a joke. Wow it must be great to live in your world. LOL
1991 Cotton beat Texas A&M 10-2 W DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH IT IS GREAT TO LIVE IN MY WORLD!!!lol SORRY YOU CAN'T JOIN ME
the last time fsu didn't go to a bowl was 1981 just the facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O.K. fine, the fact is that they went to the Orange Bowl in 81 and lost to Oklahoma. JUST THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1991 Cotton beat Texas A&M 10-2 W DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where do u see that comment?
that was the 1980 season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JUST THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 1, 1980 Orange Bowl L Oklahoma 7 24 January 1, 1981 Orange Bowl L Oklahoma 17 18 December 30, 1982 Gator Bowl W West Virginia 31 12 December 30, 1983 Peach Bowl W North Carolina 28 3 December 22, 1984 Citrus Bowl T Georgia 17 17 December 30, 1985 Gator Bowl W Oklahoma State 34 23 There's yr bowl games from 80 to 85. LOL JUST THE FACTS!!!!
nice job deleteing the comment.
Florida State Bowl Results (20-13-2) Season Bowl Opponent Score W/L 1950 Cigar Bowl Wofford 19-6 W 1954 Sun UTEP 20-47 L 1958 Bluegrass Oklahoma State 6-15 L 1965 Gator Oklahoma 36-19 W 1967 Gator Penn State 17-17 T 1968 Peach LSU 21-31 L 1971 Fiesta Arizona State 38-45 L 1977 Tangerine Texas Tech 40-17 W 1979 Orange Oklahoma 7-24 L 1980 Orange Oklahoma 17-18 L 1982 Gator West Virginia 31-12 W 1983 Peach North Carolina 28-3 W 1984 Citrus Georgia 17-17 T 1985 Gator Oklahoma State 34-23 W 1986 All-American Indiana 27-13 W 1987 Fiesta Nebraska 31-28 W 1988 Sugar Auburn 13-7 W 1989 Fiesta Nebraska 41-17 W 1990 Blockbuster Penn State 24-17 W 1991 Cotton Texas A&M 10-2 W 1992 Orange Nebraska 27-14 W 1993 Orange Nebraska 18-16 W 1994 Sugar Florida 23-17 W 1995 Orange Notre Dame 31-26 W 1996 Sugar Florida 20-52 L 1997 Sugar Ohio State 31-14 W 1998 Fiesta Tennessee 16-23 L 1999 Sugar Virginia Tech 46-29 W 2000 Orange Oklahoma 2-13 L 2001 Gator Virginia Tech 30-17 W 2002 Sugar Georgia 13-26 L 2003 Sugar Miami (Fla.) 14-16 L 2004 Gator West Virginia 30-18 W 2005 Orange Penn State (3 OT) 23-26 L 2006 Emerald UCLA 44-27 W
nice job deleteing the comment What?
DUH!!!
Nice try but it's wrong
You can't even get your teams record right
the date is the season date not the game date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jan 1st 1980 and 81. Read it and weep. That's all for me I've had enough. try and get your fact straight next time. BYE
your right that was the 79 and 80 season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!bye bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DUH!!!!!!!
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at the end of the 79 season they played in the orange bowl on the first of the next year. are you 2 years old or do i need to explain that to you!!!!!!!LOL
You said they didn't go to a bowl in 81 again here's the list. Fron the 79 season to the 84 season. No matter how you slice it, u were wrong LOL January 1, 1980 Orange Bowl L Oklahoma 7 24 January 1, 1981 Orange Bowl L Oklahoma 17 18 December 30, 1982 Gator Bowl W West Virginia 31 12 December 30, 1983 Peach Bowl W North Carolina 28 3 December 22, 1984 Citrus Bowl T Georgia 17 17 December 30, 1985 Gator Bowl W Oklahoma State 34 23 Any questions JR.? They did go to a bowl game in 81 didn't they? Oh O.K. BYE BYE NOW!!!!
you have to be 12 years old....seriously
O.K. I'll admit when I'm wrong. I see what I did. LOL Ur right, I'm wrong. LOL
not trying to be mean. enjoyed talking with ya. until later thanks
I thought this post was about the cheating?
it....was......the great thing about sports, their is so much to talk about.
Breaking news: National exclamation point shortage traced to ridiculous FSU debate on sports website. Film at eleven.
To be followed by a wonderful human interest story on the use of capitalization at the beginning of sentences and puntuation marks at their completion.
Silly TBH, I thought everyone had one of these here charts taped to there keyboard. ! = he means it !! = he means it more !!! = he means it more than before !!!! = he really means it more than before !!!!! = he means it more now than ever !!!!!! = he really means it more now than ever before and so on, This is a handy reference, feel free to print and use!
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Holy God- 32 new posts about bangs. Thanks for that handy reference Bo.
