04/18/24
July 07, 2006
All-Star Shakeups: Shake-ups abound as Oswalt replaces Pedro, the 32nd man is announced and the field for the Home Run Derby is set.
posted by chemwizBsquared to baseball at 04:17 PM - 26 comments
Oswalt over Capuano. Unbelievable. I love Oswalt, but Cappy deserves this one. The day he finds out he lost the 32nd man vote, he tosses a complete game 6-hit shutout. What's the guy got to do?
posted by BullpenPro at 04:37 PM on July 07, 2006
Capuano is my favorite young pitcher and he's been great this year, but most of his damage has been against the Cubs. He has a 0.00 ERA in 26 innings against the Cubs and a 4.01 ERA in 103 innings against everyone else. I don't know if Garner took that into consideration, but even if he did, I don't see how Oswalt gets the nod ... unless the Brewers didn't want Capuano to get out there so soon after his complete game. In the other league, I think Guillen chose too many of his own players for his squad, but I respect him for putting aside his smack talk and inviting Ordonez to the team.
posted by forrestv at 05:08 PM on July 07, 2006
If you take a closer look at Roy O's number's...you would see that he suffers from a severe case of "Clemens-itis" in that he gets little run support. Roy has thrown two straight complete games, giving up a total of 2 runs in 17 innings...and you know what...he's 0-2 in those games. Its not his fault he's 6-5, but that pathetic Houston offense...other than Berkman and Burke, there's not a single hitter on that squad who I fear night in night out. Still, Capuano wouldn't have been my choice. Didn't Brad Penny just net his 10th win for the LA Dodgers the other night? He would have been just as worthy to replace Pedro. Oh well, Phil chose his guy and we're jumping on him? At least he didn't take 1/2 his team like Ozzie did. He took the 2 guys who deserved to go above the rest of Houston's team...and for that I praise him... Houston turn it around baby! Go Astros!!!!!!!!
posted by chemwizBsquared at 05:22 PM on July 07, 2006
my god, do we really need a new freakin' post every time yahoo has a news item about the all star game?
posted by goddam at 05:54 PM on July 07, 2006
At least he didn't take 1/2 his team like Ozzie did.
He picked 3 great pitchers from his Team. Contreras and Jenks are at the top of the league....so STOP being so blinded by your subjectivity!
It's time to turn the page on the Ozzie bashing book....it's so boring!
The man earned his right to choose whoever he wants, remember he's using his picks, not the fans! As he said,"You want to pick, manage and win the WS." -- On this one, I have to be with Ozzie for sticking with his players. It's not like they are undeserving, heck they're part of the best team in baseball right now. Mark Buehrle, Contreras and Jenks deserve their manager's recognition.
posted by zippinglou at 06:58 PM on July 07, 2006
Well put, Zippinglou!
posted by topjimmy13 at 07:12 PM on July 07, 2006
Before you go off on me being subjective, do realize that I didn't complain. All six guys (plus one now that A.J. Pierzinski made it as the 32nd guy) are worthy. What I am doing is making a note that we tend to see AL managers pick a lot of guys from their teams...and usually the guys are worthy for the game... And I'm not bashing Ozzie...he says a lot that is misconstrued and could shut up once or twice, but I liken him to Happy Gilmore...bad metaphor sure, but he's that kind of "fiery, emotional guy" that baseball needs more of...he just needs to watch his audience more or less. But this thread is NOT about Ozzie, its about the All-Stars...and I'll leave on the note that I keep saying Brad Penny was left off the squad...I guess I was misinformed...so I want to correct that error with a "My Bad" and move on (that way I don't offend any LA Dodgers fans out there).
posted by chemwizBsquared at 07:13 PM on July 07, 2006
...the other's that made it were picked by the Fans, not Ozzie...
posted by zippinglou at 07:18 PM on July 07, 2006
Of all the players on the AL last man ballot Pierzynski is one of the last players I would have chosen. Haftner, Liriano, and Verlander are all much, much more deserving than him. Of course, its just another case of a really big fan market out voting everybody else coupled with fans not knowing much about baseball anyway.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 08:42 PM on July 07, 2006
Well, since I'm just an un-educated FAN, I'll turn my hat backwards and try to pick up on something else. I'm thinking NASCAR, course there is still pro wrestling........
posted by volfire at 08:55 PM on July 07, 2006
All Star games in ALL sports=BOOOOOOORING
posted by joromu at 10:23 PM on July 07, 2006
Comments telling us how much you dislike another post or its subject=BOOOOORING. Come on people, it's not like Sportsfilter is a bucket filled by those Internet Tubes. We can handle many posts. You aren't forced to read or comment in the posts you don't like. Skip them. Show your displeasure in the subject by letting it die on the vine. And if 10 or 20 people actually do like the post and want to comment you can be proud you didn't try to derail the thread. As for the All-Star game...I'm actually suprised the Punch A.J. campaign worked. I thought for sure the Cubs fans were voting for Liriano.
posted by ?! at 11:52 PM on July 07, 2006
Comments telling us how much you dislike another post or its subject=BOOOOORING. Come on people, it's not like Sportsfilter is a bucket filled by those Internet Tubes. We can handle many posts. You aren't forced to read or comment in the posts you don't like. Skip them. Show your displeasure in the subject by letting it die on the vine. And if 10 or 20 people actually do like the post and want to comment you can be proud you didn't try to derail the thread. Seconded. Well said, ?!
posted by jerseygirl at 08:09 AM on July 08, 2006
I am still having problem with 7 White Sox on the All Star team. That is a major crock of s------! If you find the All Star gme boring, then dont watch it!.
posted by daddisamm at 09:02 AM on July 08, 2006
I already don't...Monday night is my night anyways! Go Home Run Derby!
posted by chemwizBsquared at 09:11 AM on July 08, 2006
I'm sorry - I don't see how anyone can defend the Pierzinski pick over a guy like Hafner. Keeping in mind that you'd probably want three catchers. But Hafner is easily the most underappreciated hitter in the AL right now. His numbers suggest he is the best hitter in the AL right now. Which makes him the second best in the game. Consider: Leads the AL in OBP Leads the AL in Slugging Top ten in BBs, RBIs, HRs, Average He's the biggest snub as far as I'm concerned. He's had a better year than Ortiz. But this is all only applicable if you actually care about this All-Star crapola, which, like Manny, I don't see the big deal.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 11:24 AM on July 08, 2006
Its a capital crime that no spot was found for Omar Vizquel!Does'nt anyone watch this guys magic as a fielder?Let alone he's hitting over 300 nearly all year&is one of the toughest outs in all of baseball!!!A total crime he's not included!
posted by mdavidsf at 11:39 AM on July 08, 2006
Capuano is my favorite young pitcher and he's been great this year, but most of his damage has been against the Cubs. He has a 0.00 ERA in 26 innings against the Cubs and a 4.01 ERA in 103 innings against everyone else. I understand, but its not like the whole Cubs lineup was on the AL team.
posted by youngflippa18 at 02:13 PM on July 08, 2006
Are the Cubs even a viable baseball team anymore? Oh yeah, I forgot summertime beer and the roofs tops, Uh, go Cubs!
posted by volfire at 03:37 PM on July 08, 2006
Has anyone seen anything about the uniforms? Are they going back to individual team colors, or are they sticking fans with updated copies of those "groovy" Buzz Lightyear rags. Man, I guess I'm old, but to me, there was NOTHING cooler than seeing the "birds on the bat" of the Cards, or the crisp white and blue of the Dodgers standing side by side down the base line in intros... Oh, and if I gotta hear "back, back, back" one more time, I'm gonna hack, hack, hack it up!
posted by wolfdad at 03:59 PM on July 08, 2006
No fear WOLF, that guy is outa here.! As in dead I mean.
posted by volfire at 04:02 PM on July 08, 2006
volfire: Red Barber has passed away, but ESPN's Chris "Ethel" Berman is still very much alive.
posted by ?! at 04:27 PM on July 08, 2006
There is no way capuano can be left out. he leads all of baseball in quality starts, he is the most consistent pitcher in baseball. they should also have a utilty spot on the all star ballot. they can play almost anywhere like bill hall
posted by meanjorge at 06:59 PM on July 08, 2006
they can play almost anywhere like bill hall Ryan Freel, Alfredo Amezaga, Hector Luna -- the list of utility guys that cover more than one area (outfield, corner infield, middle infield, catcher) seems higher now than it has been in a long time. But I would put Bill Hall as the class of them, for sure.
posted by BullpenPro at 08:52 PM on July 08, 2006
Wolfdad, I'm just a couple weeks shy of 30 and remember back when the All-Star game seemed to be more in harmony with history than hype and marketing. In the days before major media coverage of every big market team it was neat to have the All-Star game to finally see what was so great about the guys (mostly AL) in my brother's card collection. I suspect the reason we won't see the "birds on the bat" next to Doger blue is because MLB likes to generate revenue off of "fan gear" in the form of nauseating construction zone colored uniforms. I think the voting has gotten better in the last few years, but I'm still not down with the game deciding home field advantage for the WS. Let the interleague play decide. Going retro would be a real All-Star shake up.
posted by cardsfan at 10:29 PM on July 08, 2006
Even though he is having a career year, Jermaine Dye in the Home Run Derby is still a shocker.