Here's a little second-hand background courtesy of ChicagoSports: "According to sources familiar with the incident, Miller and Kreutz spent the off day at an FBI shooting range in North Chicago. Tension percolated throughout the day and escalated, sources said, as more alcohol was consumed. Kreutz, a source said, repeatedly warned Miller to stop agitating him. They eventually went to a drinking establishment with other linemen. According to two people with knowledge of the incident, the fracas began when one player threw a drink at the other. It's unclear if Miller, who is 6 feet 7 inches and 320 pounds, first swung at Kreutz. But Kreutz landed the only punch, making Miller's mouth fill with blood when his braces cut his gums. Miller also lost a tooth. Miller, according to one source, then "lost it," rushing Kreutz and either throwing an unknown object or striking him in the head with it. One source said it was a 5-pound weight. Another said it was a board. Kreutz, who is 6-2 and 292 pounds, suffered a cut that, according to one source, required double-digit stitches." Not exactly the kind of thing a team struggling to find cohesvieness needs -- especially going into a tough second half of the season. - Snare
Can anyone say STEROIDS? Where did this come into play or are you just trying to get a rise out of us? I know plenty of guys who can break a jaw and don't use steriods. I don't want to see these two players sit out but would like to see some fines because Miller missed Sundays game and will probably miss this sundays too. Do what you want legally on your day off but make sure you can still do your job that you get paid for.
spent the off day at an FBI shooting range in North Chicago. Tension percolated throughout the day and escalated, sources said, as more alcohol was consumed. Good Christ: you could fix our National Debt in a year by allowing bachelor parties at FBI shooting ranges. They have liquor? Add a topless barmaid and we're in the black by 2nd quarter next year.
nothin' like drinkin' and shootin'
skydivemom - Everything I've read seems to indicate Coach Smith will, if he hasn't already, fine the two players. Figures will most likely not be disclosed. yerfatma - I was pretty shocked by that guns & booze comment also, however, I attribute it to shoddy reporting and/or writing more than alcohol being served at a shooting range. Government facility no less. I think that last sentence in the first paragraph should have been the last sentence of the second paragraph of my post. Lazy or non-existent editors at ChicagoSports? -Snare
For those who have not been to a regular shooting range, alcohol is not generally permitted. I cannot imagine that a the FBI range has more lax rules. I am going to assume that the reporter is an idiot and the drinking was after not during the shooting range.
For those who have not been to a regular shooting range, alcohol is not generally permitted. Pshaw, when I was in the military, we always got liquored up before we went to the range. Made it more challenging. /advocating responsible firearm safety
The reporter also quoted kreutz as saying to miller, "Dont make me angry. you wont like me when im angry". All miller remembers is a dream about a big green monster.