I don't see how anyone can feel sorry, or struggle for understanding, for Pavano or the Yankees. These kind of things can cripple other teams - Cubs and Red Sox included - and it really just doesn't matter to NY. What pressure is Pavano under? Fucking none as far as I can tell. Watch them go get David Wells, you know, just in case a gargolye falls on Scott Proctor or something equally stupefying. Who cares if Pavano ever comes back? He's not needed and never has been. It would be a slightly different looking rotation with him, but my guess is the Yanks may be able to overcome this and, you know, win the World Series.
I don't see how anyone can feel sorry, or struggle for understanding, for Pavano or the Yankees. I don't think anybody was. These kind of things can cripple other teams - Cubs and Red Sox included - and it really just doesn't matter to NY. Disagree. It doesn't matter as much; they find more ways to work around it. But it's not without impact or cost. What pressure is Pavano under? Fucking none as far as I can tell. Hey, I'll go with that, but it's not because the team is doing okay without him. It's because he's got a contract and he's got a perpetual doctor's note and he doesn't give a tinker's dam how the team is doing. Watch them go get David Wells, you know, just in case a gargolye falls on Scott Proctor or something equally stupefying. Having signed that fat fool once, I can't imagine being stupid enough to do it again. I don't care if he's still got some good games in him (and he did against NY recently, and should have won too), he's still a fat fool and he's going to keep hurting his back unless he gets rid of that bay window. Who cares if Pavano ever comes back? He's not needed and never has been. It would be a slightly different looking rotation with him, but my guess is the Yanks may be able to overcome this and, you know, win the World Series. A-men. He'd just be a distraction now.
Take from someone who has been in more car accidents than a stunt driver Thankfully, I'm one of the few who hasn't been involved in a wreck with you. But all the same, if you get into a car accident, basically as the property of a major league baseball team, it is your duty to let your manager and general manager know, so you could get a thorough examination. Pavano was probably hoping the pain would go away so he could save himself the embarassment. Unfortunately, if it didn't, he ran the risk of embarassing himself further if he went that way, and that is ultimately what happened.
1. Having signed that fat fool once, I can't imagine being stupid enough to do it again. Because what did Wells ever do when he was with the Yankees? 2. I just feel that when you got a guy like Johnny Damon . . . you have to question Pavano, and his minor injuries that have been keeping him out for over a year Rasputin the Monk supposedly survived being shot, stabbed and drowned. Why not use that as your apples-to-oranges baseline? 3. there's no way a Porsche can do that kind of damage (20K) to a garbage truck I have no idea what a garbage truck costs, how bout you? Low demand curves often mean high prices. Also, there's a good chance a Porsche is low enough to slide under, where it could do some solid damage.
If we could get a copy of the police or accident report, now we're talking.
Rasputin the Monk supposedly survived being shot, stabbed and drowned. Why not use that as your apples-to-oranges baseline? Apples to Oranges? Not really. Instead of trying to sound smarter than me, why not try this: Instead of picking apart my point, why don't you offer one of your own? Are you telling me that the New York media is just stirring up controversy, and that there is no validity to the idea that Carl Pavano is crying injury because he doesn't want to pitch for the Yankees anymore? If so, why do you feel that way? Let's have a real conversation here.
Because what did Wells ever do when he was with the Yankees? I hear the Red Sox are in discussions with Bruce Hurst and Bill Monbouquette.
Are you telling me that the New York media is just stirring up controversy, and that there is no validity to the idea that Carl Pavano is crying injury because he doesn't want to pitch for the Yankees anymore? If so, why do you feel that way? You say that as if you don't believe the media would do such a thing, to sell papers and attain listeners and every word they say - assumption or otherwise - is gospel. ... Oh.
Are you telling me that the New York media is just stirring up controversy This voiding the contract thing always seems to come out in the NY media. Kevin Brown...Jason Giambi...Aaron Boone, nothing ever seems to come of it. (oh wait, I think they actually did void Aaron Boone's contract, sorry bout that Aaron. You'll always have ESPN to keep your legacy alive)
You say that as if you don't believe the media would do such a thing, to sell papers and attain listeners and every word they say - assumption or otherwise - is gospel. No. Just because everyone wants you to buy a paper, tune in to their radio show, or watch them on TV, that doesn't mean that valid points don't come up every now and then.
This totally opens the door for the Blue Jays to take the East.
Are you telling me that the New York media is just stirring up controversy, and that there is no validity to the idea that Carl Pavano is crying injury because he doesn't want to pitch for the Yankees anymore? Oh great thanks. You just killed Irony. Shot him right in the head.
Now that would be entertaining.
the Blue Jays winning, that is.
I heard Pavano rankled Alyssa Milano, if you get my drift.
Instead of trying to sound smarter than me, why not try this: Instead of picking apart my point, why don't you offer one of your own? A. Who's trying? B. Now we're not allowed to address other's assertions? That should lead to a more perfect form of "debate" on the Internet, where we all openly agree we're here to vent our spleens and not listen to others. My point, reductio ad absurdum as it may be, was the fact Johnny Damon plays through the pains he has doesn't really mean much about Carl Pavano. Pavano may be a horse or a goldbricker, but Damon's performance is irrelevant.
reductio ad absurdum I tried those when I was trying to quit smoking and got cross addicted.
Let's have a real conversation here. This would be possible with less editorializing in the FPP.
This would be possible with less editorializing in the FPP. What lilnemo said.
To all of those who made serious comments on this thread, I apologize for the following. OK, guys, you really got me going on this one. I haven't laughed as much at a thread since the Irish Road Bowling post. If SpoFi is meant for entertainment, keep it up. Of course, it is probably meant for serious sports discussions, but who among us can resist taking a good shot when it presents itself.
Pavano's shoulder hurts now. If the Pavano story is really just media sensationalism, it is really sensational sensationalism.
This would be possible with less editorializing in the FPP. what Miz Bat said.
