Great move on the Cowboys part. Two number one receivers and a number two as the slot receiver. Not to mention one of the best tight ends in the league... Brad Johnson should be foaming at the mouth and defenses should be very nervous because they can't cover all of them.. You double the outside and Crayton and Whitten will eat them alive... We need the offense to stay on the field and the defense will take care of itself... Injuries hurt right now, but everyone goes through that stage... Williams will have a new passion for the game because he got out of a no win situation that has gone on for years... How can you do it every day when you know there is nothing to look forward to because of ownership and management.
IT is such a winless situation. If they win, it is never by enough points, or an ugly win. It is bad because TO is pouting. If they loose, then the sky is falling
But that's what happens when you add hype to an already physically & mentally demanding sport like football. The Cowboys are full of Pro Bowlers and are capable of running the table and bringing it home but the fact is, the games still need to be played and any one team can win it all.
I think Mickster and BornIcon are forgetting that with Johnson's weaker arm the offense will not be all that spread out now that Williams is on board
Nah, you got it twisted. I'm not oblivious to the fact of what Brad Johnson brings to the dance but still, you seem to be forgetting that he still is a Super Bowl winning QB with his weak arm and all.
What I said was that having a veteran QB like Johnson will be able to still run the offense smoothly. Johnson won't be out there trying too hard trying to make things happen, he'll just do his job.
Having a veteran QB as a backup helps out in so many ways. For one, if the starter goes down, a veteran will step in and since he's been there & done that, he won't have the 'deer in the headlights -look unlike a rookie QB (nevermind Matt Ryan or Joey Flacco).
I'm not a fan of the 'Boys...I think the sky is falling on the cowpokes
A little overly dramamtic there, don'tcha think Folkways? You're very first sentence made everything else that you said pretty much obsolete since it showed what side of the fence that you stand.
T.O. flipped out on the center last week
And your point is? The reason T.O. "flipped out" on the center was because the center missed his assignment which was the reason that Romo got hurt in the first place. If the center played his position, he would have been able to make the block and Romo would've been able to avoid being injured.
Instead of bringing up half-truths, why not explain the entire reason for T.O. being upset?
Joe Montana is a Super bowl winning QB too, however, his arm strenght isn't what it used to be too.
Don't get me wrong, I. like johnson's ability to run a game, he just can not get the ball as deep as Romo can.
Mixed news out today, looks like Romo is going to try to play. I wonder if the call from Brett Favre had anything to do with it.
So, BI, as a Cowboys fan, you aren't the least bit worried about TO? The tenor of his comments this year have been eerily reminiscent to me of how he starts acting when he goes into that seek and destroy mode of his.
YYM (Lions fan and proud of it)
You have to be happy about how much value you got in return for him as well. Three draft picks for a player that the Lions didn't even want, and could have left at the end of the year. The Lions got more value than I think anyone (except Jones) thought he was worth.
A little overly dramamtic there, don'tcha think Folkways?
I don't know about being "overly dramatic" but if I come across that way I can live with it.
You're very first sentence made everything else that you said pretty much obsolete since it showed what side of the fence that you stand.
If this is fact then wouldn't it also apply to your comments since you are a cowboys fan? Seeing what side of the fence you stand an all. Not at all meant to be a snide comment, I just don't see how being a fan/not a fan affects (effects? I never can remember which is what) the facts.
Joe Montana is a Super bowl winning QB too, however, his arm strenght isn't what it used to be too
Horrible example since Montana hasn't been on an NFL roster since the 90's.
So, BI, as a Cowboys fan, you aren't the least bit worried about TO?
Honestly? Not one bit. Everyone keeps talking about T.O. being a distraction and all this other BS but the fact of the matter is, T.O. hasn't done or said anything that wasn't actually true. Granted, since he is who he is, the moment he has something to say, people have a tendacy to create these outlandish scenerios as to how he's a cancer in the locker room and that's just not the case.
If this is fact then wouldn't it also apply to your comments since you are a cowboys fan?
Not really since I have bashed my 'Boys on countless occasions for some of the moves they've made (i.e. trading for Adam Jones). I'm not saying that you shouldn't make comments about anyone or anything but when you admit that you're not a fan of a team and then continually bash them, then the rest of what you have to say falls on deaf ears.
Granted, since he is who he is, the moment he has something to say, people have a tendacy to create these outlandish scenerios as to how he's a cancer in the locker room and that's just not the case.
Because he is who he is, those scenarios aren't really outlandish. For a long while in Philadelphia, I thought TO was right as well. But, at some point, being right or wrong is irrelevant, being a team player should take precedent over that. He is a talented player, but I wouldn't want to take the risk of having him on my team. When things are good they are very good, but when they go bad, there will be hell to pay.
I don't think Folkways said that he holds a grudge against the Cowboys, just that they aren't his team. And, he didn't bash them at all. They aren't my team, they aren't a rival of my team, and I don't love them or hate them.
I believe that the O-Line should be the center of all the media hype. They should be docked money for the beating that Romo and Barber took against the Cardinals. Anyway, I believe that they should try to establish the run game again, using Barber and Tashard Choice.
As for TO, he is what he is. He will always want the ball and never be happy with his "role" in the offense. Pacman was a distraction and he didn't really make the impact that Jones thought he would. He only averaged a measley 5.0 return yards and the pass defense was in the lower half of the league averages. Not really a big loss in my opinon.
I also see where so many people say that "on paper...." That's the great thing about the NFL, on any given Sunday...
Just think how all of this would have played out if they held on to win the game against Arizona. Instead of all of this, they would again be talking about how great they were and what a comeback. Irony at its best.
"the fact of the matter is, T.O. hasn't done or said anything that wasn't actually true"
I think Jeff Garcia would like to dispute that.... oh you meant in Dallas. Nevermind.
Mickster said:
"I also see where so many people say that "on paper...." That's the great thing about the NFL, on any given Sunday..."
I agree with you Mickster. Part of the reason in my mind why people say that "on paper this team should dominate, win this weekend, etc etc" is b/c people are usually referring to skill position players with high profiles. Guys like Romo, T.O., and Barber.
No one says "did you see that offseason guard/longsnapper/center/
punter acquisition? We're unbeatable now!" The reality is, many times these guys make or break a game for you, regardless of whether or not they get much face time.
I don't think Folkways said that he holds a grudge against the Cowboys...
No one ever said that he held a grudge against the Cowboys but when you have someone basically insunating that a teams season is all but over with only 6 games played (I think the sky is falling on the cowpokes), IMHO, that's pretty ludicrous.
Apparently, Folkways feels some way about the 'Boys and entire organization since he admitted that not only is he not a fan of the Dallas Cowboys but also does not like Jerry Jones '....considering all JJ has done to build his little empire in Dallas.' (OK so I do not really like him either)
No one should have to like or be a fan of every sports team but when someone makes negative remarks about a team just because they do not like that team, an actual fan of the team being belittled isn't going to take heed to those remarks. He might as well just said, "Dallas sucks!!"
I think Jeff Garcia would like to dispute that.... oh you meant in Dallas. Nevermind
Ever see the show Playmakers on ESPN before it was taken off the air after just one season? Anyways, it was a great show before it was cancelled but there was one character that kind of reminded me of Jeff Garcia, true or untrue. The character was the Tight End named Guerrwitz that was gay and basically was doing anything and everything possible in order to have his sexual orientation remain a secret. Even to the point of proposing to his beautiful girlfriend (who he was with in order to look straight to his teammates).
Not saying that Jeff Garcia is a gay (not like there's anything wrong with that) but like T.O. said in the Playboy article, "If it looks like a duck..."
BI, you seem to be taking this calling into question of T.O.'s attitude rather personally.
The only reason I bring up the point that just maybe T.O. might cause a stir in the locker room is because, well, he's done it twice already. I could care less if the 'boys went to the Super Bowl or not. I just can't wait to see if T.O. pulls another sideline freak-out. I think it's funny.
As for making a point in my earlier comment about T.O.screeching at the center, if you continued reading, you would have gotten to my point. Just because you don't like what I said, or even disagreed with it, does it make it wrong.
Another thing about Super Bowl winning QB's: Trent Dilfer is one. So is Brett Favre. Same # of SB wins. Dilfer has the better percentage. Shows just how much that stat is worth.
Anyway, I am melting the butter.
...when you have someone basically insunating that a teams season is all but over with only 6 games played (I think the sky is falling on the cowpokes), IMHO, that's pretty ludicrous.
Where did I go wrong here? If you feel I have insulted your intellect in some way BornIcon I truly apologize for the misunderstanding. The chicken little comment was in reply to, "...If they loose, then the sky is falling." comment posted by Mickster.
Maybe it was my use of the term "cowpokes" if so, the Dallas Morning News newspaper is where I first came across the word on it's sports pages in the early '90's.
Apparently, Folkways feels some way about the 'Boys and entire organization since he admitted that not only is he not a fan of the Dallas Cowboys but also does not like Jerry Jones '....
Well no I don't have anything against the "entire organization", in fact I have the utmost respect for the team's past success as well as most of the guys that have and are playing for the Cowboy's. I wish them no i'll will, they just arn't my team is all. My dislike is of Jerry Jones has nothing to do with football or the team. It stems from past business dealings in Arkansas that have nothing to do with this conversation.
"Not really since I have bashed my 'Boys on countless occasions for some of the moves they've made (i.e. trading for Adam Jones). I'm not saying that you shouldn't make comments about anyone or anything but when you admit that you're not a fan of a team and then continually bash them, then the rest of what you have to say falls on deaf ears."
Really? This from someone who continually defends TO, who could be the worst teammate in the world of sports, much less the NFL? And then you defend TO by insinuating that Jeff Garcia is gay? Maybe we should all ignore you.
That whole team is a bunch of a drama queens from Jerry facelift Jones to Yoko Romo to the queen bee herself (as Parcells would say) TO. America's team? What undeserved arrogance.
Plus they haven't one a playoff game in 12 years. Even my Jets have won one in this millenium.
BI, you seem to be taking this calling into question of T.O.'s attitude rather personally
Not at all. It's just when someone that's a self-admitted non-fan of a team steps in with a negative comment and that's all they have to add, how can you take that seriously?
My dislike is of Jerry Jones has nothing to do with football or the team. It stems from past business dealings in Arkansas that have nothing to do with this conversation
I apologize. My intentions wasn't to stir up some drama.
And then you defend TO by insinuating that Jeff Garcia is gay? Maybe we should all ignore you
By all means, no one is asking you to listen to what I have to say. You choose to read my comments.
As far as you saying that I'm defending T.O., I'm not defending him at all, I'm simply stating facts. The reason he was seen screaming at the Center was because the Center missed his assignment, he missed his block, and that's what caused Romo to get taken down and breaking his finger.
With Garcia, I personally always thought that with the way that Gracia speaks with that little lisp, that he was gay. I didn't need T.O. to tell me whether he was or wasn't, that's just always been my opinion. Now, just because I assumed him to be homosexual does not diminish the fact that Garcia is one hell of a QB.
I have a family member that gay and he also said that he thought that Garcia was gay and just hiding that and thinking back, it reminded me of that episode of Playmakers. Plus, that was one funny quote that T.O. made concerning Garcia.
Plus they haven't one a playoff game in 12 years. Even my Jets have won one in this millenium
And? Your point being is....? I also like the Jets since they're in a different conference but just because my Cowboys haven't won a playoff game or Super Bowl since I was in high school is not going to change the fact that they're still my team and win or lose, I'll remain rooting for them.
I seem to be using up all my popcorn on this thread.
Who knew?
I'm also nearing the end of my popcorn...
BI, to hang on to the notion that Brad Johnson was a Super Bowl winning back in 2003, therefore he's totally ready to lead the Cowboys, is to ignore reality.
1) Tampa had the top ranked defense that year, the Cowboys do not.
2)Johnson is now 40, and while he is still a decent backup, he's not a "Super Bowl" caliber QB.
"Plus, that was one funny quote that T.O. made concerning Garcia."
No, it was a scumbag move by a scumbag player, your cousin's thoughts notwithstanding. For a Wide Receiver to call out his QB by implying that he's gay is just fucking lame. Lame as can be. Unforgiveable.
"And? Your point being is....?"
I just like saying that the Cowboys haven't won* (spelled it right this time) a playoff game in 12 years.
*I miss multiple previews!
BI said:
"I'm not defending him at all, I'm simply stating facts."
That's kind of weak BI. Why are you simply stating facts, except to see him not be wrongfully accused in this case, or to imply that we don't know or care about "facts"? I don't think you're a bad person to defend him in this situation; everyone is entitled to their opinion. That said, your statement above is just rhetoric.
With Garcia, I personally always thought that with the way that Gracia speaks with that little lisp, that he was gay.
Wow. Just, wow. That statement is startling in both its simplicity, and its stupidity. You have revealed more of yourself in public than is generally considered fashionable, and you may want to refrain from posting until the multiple preview function is restored.
TBH, I've been trying to figure out the best way to respond to that. Thank you for doing it better than I could.
And to think that I thought BI's insistence that Brad Johnson was good to go because he is a "Super Bowl winning QB" was misguided....seems he might need to rethink a few more of his opinions.
Does anyone else's popcorn taste bad? Mine certainly seems to have been fouled.
In a weird twist of fate, THX, the answer to your popcorn inquiry may lie here.
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Odd, I thought that BornIcon would have been back to this thread by now to defend his opinions.
Maybe that complete meltdown by the Cowboys has him rethinking the whole deal.
As to the popcorn
here's your answer
