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I'm not willing to do the same. I'm going to wait to see if there's a history of racist issues with him, and I think there's a good chance there is.
It's hard to present this kind of evidence from JAIL, and even harder from the grave. Yea, this is the only time Powell felt like he could "really screw a Black man over". Give me break with that crap.
What I've said is that you are willing to leap to calling the officer a racist because it suits how you want to frame the incident and apparently the police in general
Ok, so 2 cops equal police in general, and i want to frame them? What's next, are you going to say my wallet looked like a gun and that's why i got shot 41 times?
We can all agree the officer is a jerk, but that's apparently not good enough for some people. Because there was a black man involved, it automatically has to be racism. Why?
Sigh. My nephew is a jerk. The guy who cut me off on the highway yesterday is a jerk. My buddy bragging when his team beats mine is a jerk. Powell is just a jerk? Give me a damn break with this If Don Imus was Black there would have been nothing wrong with what he said bullshit mentality. You think they forced him to quit because he is simply a jerk? Your horns are starting to show brother.
I'm not playing it down, or up. It doesn't exist here. Except in the idea that somehow, this cop is meeting the stereotype that you have put on people who resemble your experience. It is a stereotype.
You are merely trying to accuse me of what the officer is guilty of to validate a point that doesn't exist. It's NOT a stereotype, it's behavior. you can choose to ignore and or excuse it if you want to. I will not.
It seems like you may need to stare down the barrel of a pistol for no other reason other than what you look like. Have you ever been alone with a guy that was pointing a pistol at you for no damn reason at all? Have you ever wondered if that person was going to actually kill you? Have you ever tried your hardest to figure out why you came that close to death only to realize it was because the other guy hated niggers? There you go, take that in and wonder if it's a stereotype.
Powell actually got less than what he deserved. period. Being a jerk is not cause to be forced into quiting your job. Powell is an asshole racist who got what he had coming.
All other racist, asshole, power tripping cops take note. Keep pulling your 9mm's on Black men for simply running red lights and you will also REAP IT.
posted by sportsblitz at 10:40 PM on April 04
I'm going to have to disagree with you there. There are people who make cynical use of the racism charge for personal gain or political advantage.
I agree 100%. However that is not the case here. Moats never mentioned race once. So why enter this into the discussion. I'm the main 1 pointing to the race issue here having been a victim of it my self. Do I have something to gain? Where is my, I've been a victim of racism prize? There is no cash award for the person who can prove they are right in this conversation.
Playing racism down to being some half assed phony claim or excuse is offensive to me. While you may not be doing that, a select few here are.
If a person can't watch that video and hear hate in the officers comments and see it in his actions, well those select few are the ones that figure if they didn't hear him call moats a nigger then he's not a racist. Plain and simple.
posted by sportsblitz at 04:04 PM on April 03
That's called stereotyping.
Actually I was a victim of racism by the 1 officer I mentioned, and i got to view the other officer in action towards another Black man. Are you kidding? I'm not merely assuming something based on the way this guy looks or something. We got to see him in action. His behavior was very similar to that of the officer I mentioned. That's not stereotyping brother, that's called EVIDENCE.
He's already a dong. Do we need to tar him as a racist when you have no proof he is?
I agree 100% that this guy is a piece of shit, completely not suited to be a police officer
Could either of you qualify your remarks any more than this. It's almost like your saying, OK we admit he may be an asshole, but cut him some slack on the other stuff.
Offering any kind of defence for this guy after viewing that video and considering all the circumstances is ridiculous. Hey, i know, lets wait and see if he ever treated a 72 year old White woman like this. Hey what if the races were reversed? Here we go. When is the last time you saw something like this where the races were reversed? That's what I thought. Junk my ass, the pig got what he deserved. Reap it.
posted by sportsblitz at 03:06 AM on April 03
Very well thought out discussion and good points from both previous posters. The comments do make me actually realize that maybe had the offender been a young white male dressed like eminem hollering; Yo Yo dog my mums-in-law is about to die yo. I'll admit that the officer would have probably behaved the same way. So the question remains can that be racism? Beings that both parties would be white.
I think the answer is yes. Should we call it cultural-ism? Powell would probably be looking at the offender thinking, look at this little wannabe. Is this speculation? Sure it is.
It is very likely that powell is an equal opportunity asshole. But you can not argue with anyone that says they can picture him acting totally different towards someone who looked like his wife or mother. Do you think he would have pulled his gun on Mike Modano or Dale Earnhart jr. or any White man wearing a 3 piece suit? Not likely. Just watch the video again and ask yourself what force could drive someone to behave in that manor. You'll find your options will be limited.
Instead, people take every single Rodney King situation and evaluate it to see whether someone said "nigger."
I was going to make a similar comment. If they don't have white sheets on yelling nigger, then they can't be racists can they?
posted by sportsblitz at 02:57 PM on April 02
So, one must experience something first hand before having an opinion of it? That is ridiculous
Actually, my point was, since he has never experienced it, he may not want to be so quick to defend it or dismiss the idea as a faulty premise all together. He is basically saying there is no evidence to arrive at the conclusion that powell is a racist, there fore powell is not a racist. By that logic he is arriving at the opposite conclusion that i arrived at, with LESS evidence. Ironic to say the least. This may cause you to ask what evidence I have, so i point to his attitude during the event and equate it to the attitude of an officer that i have had experience with myself.
Now as far as me saying he may want to keep his head down concerning the matter, I'm merely trying to emphasize the sensitive nature of the experience. If you have never experienced such egregious behavior first hand, then you can't even imagine what the hell I'm talking about. you can certainly try, but you will not come close.
You're getting carried away here.
You have taken my only exaggerated, off the cuff remark and chose to comment on it. Oddly enough, It seems I am the only one who would be interested to know if powell was every involved in any "police shootings", hence the remark. It was meant to invoke one's thought process in the direction of wondering about just that. This incident is evidence that there has been an overzealous asshole (who may or may not be a racist) wandering the area with a gun on his hip, and the ultimate authority to use it at his discretion. I find it alarming (but not coincidental) that I am the only person concerned about this.
posted by sportsblitz at 08:23 AM on April 02
Again, we have no idea whether he's a racist or just a really lousy cop. No other cases have been reported, so it's possible that it just happened to be a black guy and a Hispanic woman he was a dick to. It's nice to see everyone jumping to that conclusion, though.
Again, we have no idea whether he's a racist or just a really lousy cop. No other cases have been reported, so it's possible that it just happened to be a black guy and a Hispanic woman he was a dick to. It's nice to see everyone jumping to that conclusion, though
Right. Wake up my friend. He knew the camera was running. Imagine if there was no camera. He wanted to say "boy" so bad it was killing him. Answer 1 question honestly for me. Have you ever been a victim of racism involving a police officer? I have. Twice actually. So forgive me for recognizing the symptoms and pointing this out.
We have no idea? You have no idea. Have you ever had your rights as an American or more importantly a human being violated because of what you look like? Until you have you might not want to comment on such issues.
The only faulty premise here is your defence of a piece of shit with a badge. I reiterate, until you've had a gun pointed at you simply because you look different than the person holding it, you may want to keep your head down on this issue.
posted by sportsblitz at 10:49 PM on April 01
The officer has resigned
Good. Have fun chasing kids on skateboards at the mall you power hungry, racist asshole. A minimum of 3-5 Black males in the area just had their life extended since they will not be shot for minor traffic offences (by him anyway).
Hey powell, it's pretty ironic that the 1 who should have "shut their damn mouth" was you. I would have loved to see his face when they let him know he had to resign or get fired. I can picture him attempting to give his side of the story only to be told (by someone with authority over him) that the circumstances didn't matter, and he better just "shut his damn mouth" and quit.
posted by sportsblitz at 03:55 PM on April 01
Just watched the video again. Cop- "your attitude sucks", I'll put you in cuffs for running a red light", "I'll tow your car for being illegally parked". "Shut your mouth, shut your mouth or i'll take you to jail".
Moats- My mother/mother in law is dieing (repeatedly).
Cop- "it doesn't matter what's going on you can't run a red light and your attitude sucks".
"I could screw you over, what happens from here on out is up to you, so shut your mouth"
Ryan is probably alive for 2 reasons, 1. He had people with him. 2. This (the incident) didn't take place on some back road while he was by himself.
That bitch cop was doing everything in is power to provoke him just because he wouldn't "shut his mouth" like he was told.
If Ryan was in fact the only person who could give resuscitation permission the cop should be fired and brought up on charges for abusing his authority. Any cop who brags about, or threatens to screw someone should be fired because that type of person isn't protecting or serving shit but his own ego.
posted by sportsblitz at 10:12 PM on March 27
This is the kind of thing that Black folk claim happens every damn day in every town in America. Police trying to show "the big bad black man" who's boss. We are only hearing about this because it involves an NFL player. If this was Ray Ray driving an accord with rims, we would probably be hearing "off duty police officer shoots unarmed man for failing to pull over and driving as if he had crack and guns in the car". Yea, this has nothing to do with race at all.
What's next, is someone going to mention that Moats should be glad that he didn't get shot for reaching in his glove box to get his registration? (because he's big and scary looking you know)?
Is it just a coincidence that NHL players or NASCAR drivers are never on the other end of these types of stories?
posted by sportsblitz at 05:20 PM on March 27
Why do i get the feeling that if you were to replace MP in this story, with lets say AI or Carmello Anthony ( or any NFL player for that matter), there would be more goings on about "role models" and "how dare they" and "my kid will never own their jersey" etc etc. Is it because he doesn't have tattoos, or he has a baby face?
Marion Jones gave all her medals back after admitting to using banned substances. While I certainly understand pot is hardly a PED. If it's banned and he admits to using it during the time he won his medals, should he have to give them back?
posted by sportsblitz at 09:28 PM on February 01
In related news, The former VP candidate Sarah Palin shoots 4 ducks, a helpless wolf caught in a trap, and 3 baby seals all while her 7 year old daughter is in tow. A member of PETA (Who wishes to remain anonymous for reasons we could not figure out) says she's a shoe-in to be the Republican candidate in 2012.
posted by sportsblitz at 03:13 AM on January 22
No, Bonds is the guy who hit his record setting home run off of a pitcher who was suspended for USING ROIDS at 1 point in his career.
posted by sportsblitz at 11:40 PM on January 17
Sure, but do you know any innocent explanation for why a guy develops a neck larger than his head late in life?
Or how a guy can, under go chemo, over come cancer, have a testicle removed, and win like 100 tour de frances' late in life. You are right, very suspicious.
posted by sportsblitz at 04:29 PM on January 15
"Cincinnati or Oakland will give him a call. They obviously don't have a problem taking players with problems."
Which is why they are losing teams, just like the Cowboys. The Cowboys lead the NFL in taking criminals, idiots, and castaways, so I pray you're not a Cowboys fan. If so, that is definitely a pot/kettle situation.
posted by sportsblitz at 04:24 PM on January 08
I'm happy for the best team in MLB. Selig tried to give Cinderella the steal sign but it didn't work.
posted by sportsblitz at 12:01 AM on October 30
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