It is kind of messed up that you get judged more for the 2 games you lose,more than the 9 or 10 you usually win.is it the coaches fault that his best 2 players were either unavailable,or virtually ineffective most of the year?all props to Carr.I hope the next guy gets a fair chance to carry on the tradition of the winningest football program in college history
I'd like to preface this by saying I'm a Badger fan. But if I WAS a Michigander, I'd certainly be happy with the change. Sure, he kinda won a national championship, and his winning percentage is merely respectable, but the only things that matter at Michigan are.....you guessed it, his abysmal won-loss record vs. their arch-rival Ohio St. and his pathetic Bowl record. As a Badger fan, I'm bummed he's gone, but for the good of the conference, game, etc. I'm glad he is. Can anyone say Jon Gruden???
It is kind of messed up that you get judged more for the 2 games you lose,more than the 9 or 10 you usually win. Just an FYI they lost 4 games this year and won 8. I don't think anybody is judging Carr at this time on any of his losses at all, and I am an OSU fan. I loved Lloyd Carr, he did exactly what I needed him to do. 1.)Get John Cooper the hell out of columbus. 2.)Lose to whoever took over for Cooper! He did almost perfect, 1-6 against Jim Tressel. No seriously, Carr was a great head coach who will be greatly missed. I just hope that his replacement has half of the class he did for the player's sake, and Big Ten football's. His shoes will be hard to fill. Good Luck coach Carr in all that you pursue!
Lefty, did you even read the article? Carr's record is an impressive 121-40 over 13 seasons. The man had to "split" a National title, Oh well. He won 5 big ten championships, took them to 13 bowl games, and is only beaten in winning percentage by two other coaches in Michigan history. His "abysmal" win-loss to OSU is only 6-7. Give me the last Wisconsin coach to do any of these things.
I believe the point lefty was trying to make was that he has had a terrible record against Ohio State and in bowls since Jim Tressel took over, and those two things are very significant. As for Wisconsin coaches, Barry Alvarez's career numbers stack up pretty favorably: 118734 8-3 bowls 5-7-1 vs. Ohio State 3 conference championships 3 Rose Bowls (3-0 vs. 1-3 for Carr) Additionally, when you consider that Wisconsin was a bit more of a building project when Alvarez took over, this is all the more impressive.
It's not like OSU in the past, oh let's say, 6-7 years has been a big pile of crap that Michigan should have easily rolled over, like Nebraska rolling over Kansas back in the day. OSU has been a contender for, or in the national championship during this period, so I think the record is a moot point. Both these teams go back and forth with one getting the better of the other for a few years at a time. It's been like that for 40 years.
