And, oh man, I hated Childress. He'd definetly go on my list, over Price. The rest I can't argue with.
I think the lists were based on what guys accomplished in college, so the edge seemed to go to three and four-year guys. So there went Kenny Anderson, and for that matter, Isaiah Thomas, who might be a smidge better than Mateen Cleeves. Here's the case for Mark Price: Three-time All-American, which is tough for Childress to trump. The best team was the C-USA's, which had Drexler, Olajuwon, Mark Aguirre, Darrell Griffith and Anfernee Hardaway. From the Big 12 list, TJ Ford simply was not as good as Mookie Blaylock. I don't know what they were thinking.
bilsaysthis, good point about the 25 year cutoff. Without that, this list would have a totally different feel (i.e., David Thompson, the best college player I ever saw). Good point on Anderson, but that still doesn't explain to me why James Worthy isn't on the list. He was the best player on UNC's 82 National Championship Team, and he played until his Junior Year (longer than Jordan who left after his sophmore year I believe) when he became a first round draft pick.. In fact, as a college player, he was probably better than Jordan. Now assorted Spofites, who would be the worst starting five over the last 25 years in the ACC (must have been a significant contributor to their teams). Here's my shot: C - Cherokee Parks (Duke) - never lived up to the hype but played a lot F - Serge Zwikker (UNC) - personally handed semifinal to Arizona F - Matt Doherty (UNC) - journeyman basically sums Matt up G - C. Alexander (UVA) - again, never lived up to the hype, but was biggest producer or very mediocre teams G - Steve Blake (MD) - all hustle too much bad shooting (Wojo could go here too almost) (That list is a lot harder than the 1st and 2nd teams... Instead of worst, I should have said 10th team given my caveat).
Oh trox! Steve Blake? How can you diss a guy for (in your OWN words no less!) "all hustle"??? One more change - as far as college careers are concerned I would put John Wallace over Derrick Coleman.
My all time worst team of contributors: ACC King Rice Bruce Dalrymple Tyrone Bogues Charles Shackleford Alla Abdelnaby
trox: Cherokee is totally trumped by Greg Newton. If you are an ACC fan, and you haven't read March To Madness, run, don't walk to your local bookstore. And there have been any number of starting ACC points in the past few years worse than Steve Blake- he was an irritating little brat (with all due respect), but the man had 1K assists, more than all but two players in NCAA history.
From the Big 12 list, TJ Ford simply was not as good as Mookie Blaylock. I don't know what they were thinking. Mookie was a better scorer and defender but Ford is a better playmaker by far. They both got into the Final Four, but TJ did much more with less. If TJ were excluded and Mookie made the list I wouldn't make an argument either. I just think the voters saw that Ford better exemplified the PG role. They made the same toss-up judgement with the Big East Team when they took Washington over Iverson. Iverson was hands-down a better scorer than Pearl, but Pearl was a better set-up man.
vito and tieguy, your points are both well taken. I really didn't want to put Blake on the list, but I had a hard time coming up with the point guard (I did think of King, but didn't want to double ding the heels when someone as maddening as Zwikker was already on the list).
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