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January 25, 2013

SportsFilter: The Friday Huddle:

A place to discuss the sports stories that aren't making news, share links that aren't quite front-page material, and diagram plays on your hand. Remember to count to five Mississippi before commenting in anger.

posted by huddle to general at 06:00 AM - 11 comments

I'm confused by the top spot on this list of the best baseball seasons by a 20 year-old: "I think the 20-year-old A-Rod is the pretty easy call for No. 1." There are 7 other players on that list with higher WAR ratings, some significantly higher. I'm not asking for slavish devotion to a single stat, but maybe a little more reason why.

I also like the idea Williams hitting .400 in 1941 wasn't that big of a deal at the time.

posted by yerfatma at 09:30 AM on January 25

I think it's because of the position. Putting up those sort of numbers as a shortstop (instead of as an outfielder or pitcher) is amazing. Position scarcity has to account for the bump (and also why Bench is #4).

posted by grum@work at 09:50 AM on January 25

That awkward moment when one of the people you bash the most (Rob Ryan) is hired by your favorite team (St. Louis Rams).

posted by dyams at 10:02 AM on January 25

The Manti Te'o voicemails are from a real female, the cousin of hoaxster Ronaiah Tuiasosopo. So when Te'o was engaging in a little late-night aural romance, it wasn't gay.

posted by rcade at 10:17 AM on January 25

Yakupov Nail's it with 4.7 seconds left

posted by tommytrump at 10:51 AM on January 25

That seems familiar...

I loved Nail's reaction.
This Oilers team is chock full of young exciting players.
Yakupov, Hall, The Nuge, Schultz, and future Art Ross Trophy recipient and Olympic gold medal overtime hero, Eberle.

posted by grum@work at 12:18 PM on January 25

I dunno. I appreciate the enthusiasm, but a game-tying goal in the regular merits this? What happens if scores an actual game winner? Fireworks shoot out the top of his head?

posted by wfrazerjr at 12:24 PM on January 25

A savvy arena DJ would immediately punch up the chorus to this song.

posted by Hugh Janus at 12:31 PM on January 25

I think it's because of the position.

Duh. For some reason I was thinking WAR included a position adjustment.

posted by yerfatma at 02:35 PM on January 25

A Girl's Guide to Watching the Rangers

posted by tommytrump at 03:20 PM on January 25

I believe WAR already does include a position adjustment already, as well as park adjustments and team scoring adjustments. This is incidentally one of the reasons I find WAR to be problematic- it seems to double-dip and overcompensate in an attempt to create an even playing field for comparisons, as Trout gets a bonus for being on a lower scoring team in a lower scoring stadium, so every offensive or defensive contribution is "worth more". Perhaps it is, but then WAR isn't quite measuring what people think it's measuring- and reminds me of how in the 80's they briefly tracked the [meaningless] stat "Game Winning Hits".

And I made the case a while back that Williams and Rodriguez had better age 20 seasons than Trout- although I can't find it now, because the comments history doesn't paginate and the Google(tm) fueled search isn't very helpful. Trout is phenomenal, no doubt, but I think WAR is misleading in this case in how phenomenal he is.

posted by hincandenza at 03:23 PM on January 25

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