Don't get on here and quote a bunch of numbers if you didn't follow the season. So Brett threw 11 interceptions in the final 6 games - when they went 4 and 2 including beating the Super Bears on the road (don't even say that was an empty netter - the Bears did not go out there to lose that game and they did not pull the starters until it was out of hand)- I'll take it! You obviously didn't see the way that the defense came around toward the second half of the season and most importantly how the O line improved and Favre took far fewer hits against better quality teams in the second half. The truth is the Packers played the first half looking like a new, young team, a new coach and no identity. They did not finish the season that way! Favre has ALWAYS thrown high numbers of interceptions - so what! That's why people love his style, he will take chances that not many others will. He doesn't use his legs to gain a couple of yards when he has a cannon for an arm. If you don't like the interceptions - blame the Packers front office. They have never given him a "great" receiver. Sure Driver is good, and I love the guys heart and courage, but he is not a premier speed or size guy. The Packers haven't had a decent tight end since Chumura went nuts. Favre has been building every year without the tools. Give him a couple of good tools to work with and his numbers will be as good as ever - no doubt. No fool would put their money on the Packers being a better team with Aaron Rodgers next season instead of Brett Favre, it's just the people that are tired of the legacy!
posted by krer300 at 09:35 AM on February 06
I guess the Bears fans have nothing to say about their own pathetic quarterback, so they want to jump on this post and vent because #4 is coming back! What's really funny about the situation is that the Bears only drafted Grossman to keep the Packers from getting him as the next quarterback of the Packers. I can't help but believe that the Bears would have showed a little more fight in the Super Bowl if they had a quarterback with the leadership, determination and grit of Brett Favre - even toward the end of his career. Admit it Bears, Lions and Vikings - it was bad news for you when the word came out and as a football fan, nothing would make you happier than not to have to worry about the intangibles that #4 brings to a team. He gives a bad or young team a chance to win games that they probably would never win on paper and now that this team has matured and got some experience, they are no doubt a force to be dealt with next season. For you people who say you would hate to see him get hurt - this guy has not had a serious injury in 16 seasons - do you actually think that he takes the field worrying about that? Maybe he does get hurt, so what - it's football and he danced around injury longer than any quarterback ever has. This guy has put himself back into a game, without doctors clearance, with a concussion and thrown for a touchdown. If I were running the Packers organization, I would take my chances with Favre and bet on him to be there. John Elway went through the same crap and haters could not wait for him to retire - he was too old, he might get hurt, his skills have diminished - he won two Super Bowls - but he probably should not have played those last two seasons. And records... he difinately deserves to break them if it is a goal of his or not. Nothing against the great Marino, but he set the records while working in warm and sunny Miami with some talented receivers over his career, not to mention that next season will put them even for years played. Favre has done it at Lambeau with little or no receiver talent in all his seasons. Favre gave a few receivers a name but he has never truly had a premier receiver to throw to - besides Sterling Sharp - but he retired with his issues well before Favre hit his prime. With all said, there is nobody I would rather have quarterback the Green Bay Packers next season than #4 and division rivals cannot wait for the day they don't have to hear and worry about him. By the way, was Urlacher playing in that Super Bowl, because all I saw was Colt running backs running for 10+ yards every time they touched the ball. I thought the elements would favor the Bears but obviously not. What an embarrasment to represent the NFC - was that truly the best team we had?? I thought I was watching a preseason game with all the busted plays and mistakes.
posted by krer300 at 05:23 PM on February 05
The difference is Roger Clemens pimps himself out to anyone with money - Favre shows his love to only one team. You Bears fans should start your own thread, it must be a devastating day for you guys - instead of two pushover games, now it will not be so easy. Print up your Urlacher Jerseys and prepare yourselves for failure - your success last year only gave you a tougher schedule for this year. The Bears still suck! and uh, who is your quarterback this year?
posted by krer300 at 07:51 AM on April 26
I have felt the same way as the Favre nay-sayers in the past. I hated Troy Aikman because I hated the cowboys. I hated them for their success and their ability to beat the Packers every year on THEIR turf. Aikman could not have retired early enough for me. Now all hatred aside, if not for the medical reasons, I still think Troy could play today and would I want him on my team - Hell yeah! Put the silver stars aside and he was a stand-up guy that showed alot of class even though he had a criminal supporting cast. Favre is pretty much in the same boat, especially to the division rivals. Would you take him to quarterback your team this season? I know the Bears need him, Lions - absolutely, Vikings - couldn't pass that up, as well as a dozen other teams in the league with subpar quarterbacks. And back to Chmura - you were nothing without Favre and you went and ruined it as well as knocked a dent in the team. Favre did the right thing by letting it go. Was he supposed to put himself in the media as being a sex-crime supporter - which is exactly what the media would have done. Just because you are not found guilty in our court system does not mean you are not guilty to the general public. Yeah, you to OJ.
posted by krer300 at 02:53 PM on April 04
Check out the Bonds thread. Now there is someone that should retire instead of suffer redicule for the remainder of his career. He's still playing to corruptly break some records while Favre could care less about any records. I think Favre should come back and make his own decision to sit out a few starts as Cal Jr. did and show the changing of the guard in Green Bay. I hate to see it but it has to happen - soon. He will always be the greatest in my book regardless of how he retires but that would be ending a great career with class. My money is on Favre eventually starting his own Nascar team - maybe he can team up with Bradshaw. Maybe they could call it Hall of Fame Racing - no -wait -that ones already taken.
posted by krer300 at 11:55 AM on April 04
Yes, Favre is on the downside of his career if he does play, but I would rather watch him at this point of his career than some young talent with half the heart (nothing against Aaron Rodgers because we luckily do not know him yet) or some quarterback that thinks they are a running back because they can't pass. By the way - the "thought to be new era quarterback with all the scrambling and running skills" has still yet to win a Superbowl. He will not do it - but Favre could go to a handfull of teams I can think of and turn them into a Superbowl contender. He is definately not looking for that type of project, but his "depleted skills" are still good enough for it. Face it - we have players that do this in every sport. I wish I would have been lucky enough to be faced with such a difficult decision as these athletes face at the end of a career. I don't believe much respect is lost until you try to come back like Deion Sanders, Michael Jordan, etc. I don't hear this debate over Roger Clemens and he does it every year - with the difference being he will pimp himself to any willing team with the big bucks.
posted by krer300 at 10:14 AM on April 04
Favre played his entire career with minimal talent coming in. He took noname receivers and made them pro-bowlers. The last big-name receiver he had was Sterling Sharpe and that was in his first couple of years. He took guys with no identity and made them something. I honestly do not understand why the Packers never drafted a bigtime receiver - I guess they did not want the expense. They passed on several and the one I really wanted for Favre was Santana Moss. Favre has never had a receiver with blazing speed or super size but year in and year out he makes it work and ususally leads the league in yards. This probably leads to alot of the interceptions - he never has the talent to get open and overpower the defense. So try another angle because he has never had talent going in but by the end of the season some of these guys have a name.
posted by krer300 at 09:46 AM on April 04
The difference is Favre or Bond's are at the end of their careers. They have done their time. TO needs the game more than the game needs him as proven last year. The other thing is Bonds and TO have been outspoken throughout their careers and dug themselves into holes because of it. You don't hear alot from Favre outside of the field, and when you do it's because of a rare occassion the media can pin him in a corner. As usual the media probably turned this against him, because it was probably said in a more comical way, which Favre usually is, and turned into a threat and jab to his team.
posted by krer300 at 09:23 AM on April 04
Javon Walker wanted more money because he signed a crappy rookie contract. Money was his issue - and due to the contract he signed, he was underpaid, but he and his agent agreed to it. Play out your damn contract and then you get(earn) the big bucks with another team. I love the Packers but ever since Ron Wolf left, you can't squeeze an extra dime from them for a big time player - we now have Billy Cundiff who can't even make field goals off turf instead of Ryan Longwell...this may be ugly.
posted by krer300 at 09:15 AM on April 04
Favre along with McNair is at the gulf coast handing out money left and right - selfish? Because of who they are and the spotlight they are in Deanna is able to raise millions for breast cancer awareness - selfish? What has Mark Chmura ever done for the public? I'm glad Favre's main concern is not an organization with multi-million dollar salary caps. The Packers have more money under the cap than any other team with or without Favre, so it's not that big of a deal - they don't want to spend money regardless, which is why they have struggled. Honestly, Favre has not been as effective since Chmura was cut from the team - but more than likely that was due to Holmgren leaving and the heavy use of the double tight end schemes. Favre has said numerous times that he isn't an outspoken guy as far as being the team leader is concerned, however he is a guy that most players love to be around. As far as being selfish?? - Favre has given more to the game of football than anyone else in his time. He has earned his glory from his passion, excitement and toughness. People all over the country have become Favre fans who don't even follow the Packers? Selfish - its not like he's sitting back saying give me more money to play this season. Who would want to rebuild a team at this point of their career, but at the same time how can you give up the thing that you love and that has made you what you are? He just wants to see if the Packers can sign a competetive team or if it is going to be an ego-typical building project. Once he does retire, he could have any brodcast position, coaching job, etc. but do you know what he would like to do? Coach high school football! Selfish??? I think anyone who would compare Favre to TO should be banned from football and beer for an entire season. Sometimes you have to follow the game outside of fantasy stats. There are not enough players that play the game with Favre's passion - can you imagine how much more fun the league would be if there were more players to play that way. These clowns worry more about what to wear after the game, how much money they need to play, or how they are going to celebrate if they score a touchdown. Too many Rod Tidwell's in the NFL. The league needs more players like Favre. He could have up to the Saturday before opening day to decide as far as I am concerned.
posted by krer300 at 09:06 AM on April 04
When is the last time the quarterback was the difference in a Superbowl anyways. Good teams that are united from the front office on down are what usually comes out on top. I mean 3 rings for Tom Brady?? Hes part of the factors, but he's not the reason the Patriots win.
posted by krer300 at 08:28 PM on January 08
Hey Chicago, The Packer fans get a glimpse at how it feels to be a Bears fan this season - loose twice to your rivals and no playoffs. One trip to the postseason in 12 years for you guys...guess you have low standards for your team. It sucks and its better to be on your side, but those 12 years we have been there. Too bad you guys dont have an offense to go with the good D. Grossman isnt the answer. Good luck but the Bears still suck. See you back in another 12.
posted by krer300 at 07:50 PM on January 08
If you Carolina fans have any cheesehead friends, I'm sure they will allow you to borrow our rivalry song, "The Bears Still Suck", for this week. The Panthers looked good today. Look forward to the defensive battle next week, so good luck Carolina. The Packer nation will definately be pulling for you since we're not use to sitting the postseason out. Just remember whatever happens, the Bears still suck.
posted by krer300 at 05:15 PM on January 08
The GM does suck and I believe he had something against Sherman since he replaced half of his duties. He appears to be quite a snake the way he is handling things. As for Favre, he could make any starter a backup if he went on the free market with exception of maybe P. Manning or. Favre's numbers never declined(until this season) after Holmgren left. Perhaps the problem from Holmgren leaving was to the entire franchise - Favre has carried this makeshift group of players for the past seven years.
posted by krer300 at 01:57 PM on January 08
SHOCKING that you were a Bear fan. Enjoy it while it lasts. You guys lucked out in drafting Grossman which was just a chess move to keep the Packers from getting him. Maybe you guys can print up some jerseys now with a name other than Payton or Urlacher on the back. You guys have about one week before you can start the "wait till next year" talk...and close your eyes and hope that Favre isn't there when you wake up. We all know the Vikings will suck more than the Bears so it all revolves around one player...#4
posted by krer300 at 07:56 PM on January 07
You Bears fans are a trip. This quarterback has been kicking your teams ass for the last decade, then you have one lucky year in which the rest of the division laid down, and all of a sudden Favre sucks?? You guys give it up. There is no other player that plays with the passion of Favre including your beloved Urlacher. It doesnt even bother Packer fans that the Bears are in the playoffs because everyone knows they will be eliminated in their first game. Favre plus a couple of good, healthy players will put this team back in elite status which scares the hell out of Bear fans and this little run they are having.
posted by krer300 at 07:28 PM on January 07
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