Without taking goals scored into account, there are 27 possible outcomes in a group of 3 (3 games ending in 3 outcomes win, lose or draw) and 729 possible outcomes in a group of 4 (6 games, 3 outcomes). In the 3 team group, there are 3 ways in which all teams can be tied and 3 ways in which 2 teams can be tied for second place. This gives a 22% chance of needing some form of tiebreaker (6/27). In the 4 team group, there are 7 ways all teams would be tied, 20 ways 3 teams are tied for first, 12 ways 3 teams are tied for second, and 168 ways 2 teams will tie for second. This gives a 28% chance of needing some tiebreaker (207/729).
So it seems more likely to end up in the drawing of lots with 4 teams than 3. Of course this doesn't take into account that some teams will be more likely to win than others. And there are other possibilities when the top two teams tie where you would need to figure out which team comes out first and which comes out second.
posted by Ricardo at 02:53 PM on January 11
Wales 3-1 (Bale)
Germany 4-1 (Muller)
posted by Ricardo at 02:19 PM on July 06
I missed yesterday's game, DAMMIT!
Belgium 3, Wales 1 (Lukaku)
Germany 3, Italy 1 (Muller)
France 3, Iceland 1 (Griezmann)
posted by Ricardo at 12:29 PM on July 01
Switzerland 0 - 1 Poland - Milik
Wales 3 - 0 Northern Ireland - Bale
Croatia 1 - 0 Portugal - Peresic
France 3 - 0 Republic of Ireland - Payet
Germany 4 - 0 Slovakia - Muller
Hungary 1 - 3 Belgium - Lukaku
Italy 0 - 3 Spain - Morata
England 3 - 0 Iceland - Sturridge
posted by Ricardo at 03:11 PM on June 24
It was terrible how many times the ref motioned for the players to get away from him only to have two of them yelling in his face. He was unable to take control of them which turned a bad situation worse.
posted by Ricardo at 12:16 PM on June 13
Player: Antoine Griezmann
Player: Jamie Vardy
Player: Thomas Muller
Player: Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Player: Christiano Ronaldo
posted by Ricardo at 01:21 PM on June 09
I found their starting 11 on the offical united twitter page. It's pretty strong with Marcus Rojo injured in training the day before and Morgan Schneiderlin out with an illness.
It will be interesting to see how this compares to the starting 11 they field tomorrow.
posted by Ricardo at 10:29 AM on May 16
I presume Man United was going to use a lineup of mostly kids and reserves considering the FA Cup final on Saturday
I would think not because this game was probably bigger to the club than the FA Cup final. They were going to more or less be playing for that last Champion's League spot. Now that the game has been postponed and they know the outcome of the City match, they know there is no hope of getting Champion's League football next season and can absolutely field a weakened team and save the heavier hitters for the cup final.
I assume they did it on purpose so they would know exactly how to handle this match (I don't really).
posted by Ricardo at 10:18 AM on May 16
If you're looking for the nastiness, I would suggest watching the entire match over. There was quite a bit of it. I couldn't believe that game made it to the full 90 with 22 players still on the pitch.
posted by Ricardo at 12:06 PM on May 03
Soccer is my first love and as a longtime Liverpool supporter, I can't remember a time when this wasn't the case over there. So I agree with rcade. This won't bother me because I barely (subliminally) notice it anymore.
posted by Ricardo at 09:15 AM on April 18
Soccer is one of the most free flowing games in the world and replay could change it drastically. I dislike diving myself but do see it as part of the game. I wouldn't mind if blatant dives were punished after the fact. Marcel's shenanigans in yesterdays Real Madrid-Wolfsburg match were ridiculous.
posted by Ricardo at 02:09 PM on April 07
They already throw a yellow flag. They just need to throw a red one immediately after for a second offense. And of course, change coach's challenge flags to a different color.
Also, I agree with grum. Yellow and red cards, as well as penalties are too steep a price beyond the norm and are the reason flopping permeates soccer.
posted by Ricardo at 02:20 PM on March 23
Shouldn't her first place take be higher than someone like Victoria Azarenka or Simona Halep?
Being a higher draw usually equates to skill level (although not 100% of the time). Factor in long term winnings, appearance fees and endorsements typically given to a higher draw and she is paid more. It isn't as simple a separation either. And I agree tennis isn't the right sport. From my limited knowledge of it, the sexes are pretty equal as far as draw and popularity, in which case I would advocate the pay to reflect as much.
posted by Ricardo at 08:30 AM on March 23
Don't mistake my arguments for sports related pay to mean I don't believe in equal pay in the real world. I am very liberal and absolutely feel women in the work force should be paid as equals.
posted by Ricardo at 09:55 PM on March 22
On what specific grounds should men be paid more for that tournament?
I'm not saying any specific sport or tournament should pay men more, or women more for that matter. I'm saying each should be paid according to the revenue they generate. If they generate the same revenue, pay them the same. I don't know whether they do or not. But we can take a different example. The NBA generates WAY more money than the WNBA and for that reason, NBA players should be paid more.
posted by Ricardo at 09:15 PM on March 22
From your link ...
1. Female tennis players work just as hard as men.
Lower ranked male players work just as hard as Djokovic and Nadal. This doesn't mean they should be paid the same.
2. Longer contests are not worthy of higher pay.
I agree here. Length of the contest shouldn't play into it.
3. It's a myth that fans are always more interested in men's tennis.
I also agree here. I watch many women's sports and often enjoy them more than the male counterpart.
4. Men get paid the same as women in figure skating and gymnastics.
Why should this matter? The counter argument (which is also incorrect) is that women get less than men in other sports. I would argue the reason behind this is that women's gymnastics and figure skating draw a similar or larger audience than the men's does. And their pay should reflect that.
5. The fact that women's sports are (sometimes) less popular is a vicious cycle.
I'm not sure this is true. There are plenty of women's sports that thrive, tennis being one of them.
posted by Ricardo at 01:02 PM on March 22
Etrigan, I don't think it has anything to do with equality. If you look at a sales job which is based off commission, then one salesperson is going to get paid more than the next person because he or she is selling more. I don't think men should be paid more by default. I think whoever is generating revenue should be paid accordingly.
posted by Ricardo at 09:22 AM on March 22
I don't think Djokovic is entirely out of line. While I wholeheartedly agree anyone doing the same job should get paid as equals, I think sports are a different thing altogether. These people are revenue generators and if any group generates more revenue than another, the pay should reflect that. I don't see that as sexist and I would say if a woman's sport brings in more cash than the men's equivalent, then they should make more than those men. I don't really know the breakdown as far as tennis goes, but if it is correct that more people watch the man's game than the women's game, how can you justify equal pay. In everyday life is where this needs to be corrected, not on the field.
posted by Ricardo at 12:19 AM on March 22
It's more likely it was due to the international break than getting a draw at Goodison. As another long time Red, I agree with Bill ... four months (at least) late. We've done almost nothing with the Suarez and Sterling money.
posted by Ricardo at 09:09 AM on October 06
What's worse than not winning? Not deserving to win. Although Tejada may have been offside when Perez gave him the ball before scoring, we didn't play well enough on the night to warrant anything better than a draw and may not have warranted that much. Guzan was big for us.
posted by Ricardo at 11:41 AM on July 14
The sun on the third goal is a stretch. The defender was angled away from it for the most part. It looked more like just a tricky bounce.
posted by Ricardo at 04:26 PM on July 06
I thought maybe Johnston's hand was on the shoulder but not applying any real pressure. Not the smartest move but when the German went down the ref didn't have much choice. IF the ref saw it that way as well, it might explain the yellow as opposed to red. It easily could've been a red though and I think we were a bit lucky on both PKs. I can see why the ref gave the second one as I thought she was a yard into the box watching live. And I too would've liked to see how we handled France.
posted by Ricardo at 08:44 AM on July 01
I think that headline is a bit generous. We didn't impress until Australia ran out of juice in the second half of the second half. It seemed like the midfield couldn't complete most of their passes before that. We couldn't even take throw ins very well. Australia did a great job pressing. Also, what the hell are the refs wearing under their shirts? Inner tubes?
posted by Ricardo at 10:16 AM on June 09
I bet the Las Vegas bookies aren't very happy.
I think bookies could care less who wins any sporting event. Bets are usually hedged and they win regardless. Probably not always, but in most cases.
posted by Ricardo at 03:31 PM on January 13
After seeing some pictures of the marks left, I'd say it's more than any 4 year old should receive.
posted by Ricardo at 10:40 PM on September 16
I was under the impression domestic corporal punishment is still legal in the US. I understand there's a line where it crosses into child abuse, but where is it drawn? And how do we know whether it was crossed in this case?
I am not playing devil's advocate here, I just don't think I understand the facts well enough.
posted by Ricardo at 04:15 PM on September 16
It saddens me that she married him.
posted by Ricardo at 12:20 PM on September 08
You seem to have made up your mind without much evidence.
posted by Ricardo at 10:32 PM on August 10
Behavioral issues aside, Suarez has been a fantastic servant on the pitch for Liverpool. He's played so well that we made 50 million pounds on him. He carried us to second place last year. Tied the EPL goal scoring record. He almost single handedly gave us a much needed title. blah blah blah ...
I fear if the coming few years will be another decline from 2nd place and hope we can find someone to replace half of Suarez.
Go in peace Luis. YNWA!
posted by Ricardo at 01:59 PM on July 11
but at the end of the first half Robben was kicked in the box by two separate Mexicans and got nothing for it
I didn't think he got fouled on either of those back to back falls. Simply dove over the opposition legs both times. I think out of all the serial divers in the game, Robben is one of the worst. The penalty itself was probably a foul and he probably deserved a penalty in the first half, so it all evens out.
I've decided I'm rooting against the Dutch the rest of the way unless Robben is red carded at some point.
posted by Ricardo at 08:39 AM on June 30
but Liverpool has EPL title aspirations. Losing Suarez for 23 percent of their season is huge.
Agreed. When he was out the first 5 games of last season, we dropped 5 points ... and lost the title by 2 points.
posted by Ricardo at 09:48 AM on June 27
and has done absolutely nothing remotely controversial in Brazil.
The guy that said this is an idiot
posted by Ricardo at 02:19 PM on June 24
As a Liverpool fan, it was tough to see the Liverpool-heavy England team lose regardless of who beat them. I take some solace that Suarez looked brilliant as usual and enjoyed the consolations he appeared to give Gerrard after the match.
And in what way is Suarez a pantomime villian of this World Cup? He seemed to clean up much of the nonsense this past EPL season and has done absolutely nothing remotely controversial in Brazil.
posted by Ricardo at 11:11 AM on June 21
I'm looking at group D as the hardest. One of England, Italy or Uruguay is going home early. That sounds more ominous than "The US will go home early".
posted by Ricardo at 11:50 PM on December 06
Watch it again
I was indeed going through the slow-motion when I commented. The incidental contact I was talking about was number 59 putting his hand on Gronks shoulder pad. That in itself wasn't when the penalty occurred. That was when his hands went down and around him. The ball is about a split second away at that point. There is no way Gronk was making some kind of curl move there. In your video above, the first time he goes to plant is when his right foot hits (relatively) below the goal post. Even with the defender there hugging him, he never appears to be trying to go back against him.
I never argued this wasn't a penalty. I think it was probably defensive holding. What it wasn't was pass interference.
posted by Ricardo at 09:28 PM on November 19
side note - Did anyone else catch Ray Lewis talking about why Ted Ginn was allowed to score? He kept saying the defender erred when he let Ginn to the outside and nobody could catch up to his speed. He said the defender needed to usher him to the inside where he would get help. Ginn caught the ball and hooked to the inside. Shoddy work Lewis.
posted by Ricardo at 04:08 PM on November 19
The contact up until his right foot plants is VERY incidental (and quite mutual) and not enough to get the flag. At the point his right foot plants, he is probably almost 2 yards behind the defender who intercepted. There is no way he could have made up that ground before the ball got there.
posted by Ricardo at 04:06 PM on November 19
I agree with tron ... I think Gronks momentum was carrying him too far to make the turn back to the ball. He didn't even try to as a matter of fact, which might have given the penalty more credence. The defender had him cornered and was definitely in contact with him, but there was no pressure going back towards the ball from Gronk.
As for the back judge being overruled, there's also a chance he threw the flag, realized what had happened as far as the play went, and told the ref as such. #wildspeculation
posted by Ricardo at 01:47 PM on November 19
I wonder if part of this will be getting a MARTA line to the area. It's been needed for a long time.
posted by Ricardo at 10:45 AM on November 11
Agreed JJ ... Remember when City put up a billboard "welcoming" Tevez to Manchester? Good stuff.
posted by Ricardo at 01:43 PM on November 06
Why should players be skittish of these collisions as opposed to the keeper being skittish? If a player makes an honest attempt on the ball and the keeper gets hurt (or the player for that matter), so be it. I don't agree with protecting one player over another without a genuine reason. What if Lukaku tries to spin out of the contact there and twists his knee or worse? Or even as it happened, it could've hurt his knee.
posted by Ricardo at 02:51 PM on November 04
Cheers to my first high hope / bitter let down season
Ahhhh! 2008-2009 ... Liverpool lose only 2 games and still fall behind ManU by 4 points due to an abundance of ties. The memories.
posted by Ricardo at 08:35 AM on May 22
My reply was that it really isn't a big deal.
I think it's not necessarily a big deal on it's own, but should lead to the bigger promised land of the day when there are many athletes on many teams who have come out and don't feel the need to repress their sexuality because of the job they hold.
That is indeed a big deal.
posted by Ricardo at 04:36 PM on April 30
I, for one, find humour to be a pretty good coping mechanism for a world that doesn't make a lot of sense sometimes
I totally agree. I have a friend who "joked" today by saying his decision to not run in marathons has now been justified. I cringed a little and found it in poor taste, but still a bit funny. And that humor doesn't make yesterday's events any more or less serious than they already are.
I feel a ton of empathy and sympathy for those involved and won't feel vindicated until whoever was responsible has a car battery attached to their nuts.
posted by Ricardo at 01:31 PM on April 16
Lighten up Francis
Any one of you homos touches my nukes, I'll kill you!!!
posted by Ricardo at 02:14 PM on April 05
Here is a link to his website
posted by Ricardo at 02:55 PM on February 15
Ah ... two racists in love. Beautiful story.
posted by Ricardo at 05:23 PM on January 25
That may or may not have happened. We can't assume it didn't. For all we know, this ref was simply making a joke, albeit an inappropriate one.
posted by Ricardo at 01:15 PM on September 26
As I remember, the NFL states refs aren't allowed to play fantasy football and this was going to be investigated. I hadn't heard any outcome after that, but I'm guessing if he were indeed playing fantasy football, he wouldn't be reffing any longer.
And having everyone bagging on the refs is poor. None of this is their fault. They're doing as good a job as can be expected of them. The fault here lies with the NFL and the regular refs.
posted by Ricardo at 10:17 AM on September 26
people do care that what's unfolding in front of them is fairly judged.
I think the word fairly is incorrect. The games are being poorly judged, but I would bet they are indeed being fairly judged. These refs aren't the same as boxing judges in that they aren't on the take making these bad calls (most likely). I don't watch boxing because I know some guy may have it made up in his head before the match who is going to win regardless of what happens. I also agree with phaedon that the bad calls make an interesting story. It isn't ruining anything for me.
posted by Ricardo at 09:46 AM on September 26
because of course this MLB stadium provides unrestricted access to cheap high-alcohol beer
The only argument I have is with the word cheap.
posted by Ricardo at 08:03 AM on May 22
If anyone can claim they won it single handed
posted by Ricardo at 11:09 PM on March 08
When I was watching it real time (and even after without benefit of the blue line), I felt he was passed the line. Not sure how you expect him to know that on the field, realtime.
I also often feel a QB has passed the line only to be proven wrong on replay. These guys, QBs and LBs alike, are paid ridiculous amounts of money to know things like where the line of scrimmage is without the advantage of a blue line painted across the field.
You rarely see a QB draw a penalty by actually running past the line of scrimmage and still passing the ball. But often see one jump just before and throw as he crosses.
These guys aren't held to our standards and shouldn't be. I have to think Harrison knew the ball was going to be gone when the hits occurred, yet did nothing to stop or slow momentum.
posted by Ricardo at 09:36 AM on December 14
As a fellow Kopite, I would love to have their Drogba and give them some of their money back.
posted by Ricardo at 03:20 PM on November 29
Rapinoe played okay, but she tried dribbling through 2 or 3 defenders too many times when an open teammate would've been a much better choice.
Can anyone that follows closer than I explain why Alex Morgan isn't a starter?
She lacks some experience and consistency yet. She will probably be a fantastic player in the future. She maybe could've come on earlier for Heather O'Reilly who never looked threatening hen she touched the ball.
The injury to Golden Ball candidate Lauren Cheney probably hurt us more than anything else.
posted by Ricardo at 01:18 PM on July 18
I didn't think Brazil showed poor sportsmanship past the Erika incident. I think they played the way any other team would've played. The crowd probably wanted to boo the terrible refereeing but that isn't as easy as picking out a villain from one of the players. I believe that wrongly fell on Marta. I just couldn't figure out why the crowd was whistling on her every touch aside from the fact she took the second penalty. None of that fiasco was Brazil's fault. I don't think she dove trying to get to the end of the absolutely beautiful flick over two defenders. She just lunged at it trying to get her foot to it and so did Buehler.
I am so happy the US made it through, but Marta deserved better than to be vilified the way she was.
And brainofdtrain, if FIFA's stance is that Hope Solo moved (she did, but laterally and within the rules), it is a stunning statement. I can't say the referee was biased and overall she got many decisions correct. It's just that what she missed were huge calls, the penalty call and red card, the re-take, the Carly Lloyd handball and the offside on Brazil's second goal. The offside is excusable as those are missed every game by the best of referees/linesmen.
posted by Ricardo at 01:30 PM on July 11
The big blue crew did a decent job of making me believe the penalty retake was warranted by showing a US player had encroached into the penalty area before Julianna (I think) took the first one and mentioned Solo probably got the card for arguing it instead of moving off her line. That being said, the play on the ball which won the penalty in the first place was shoulder to shoulder between Buehler and Marta and they both lunged at the ball on their own. It didn't even appear to be a foul of any kind.
I also felt a little fortunate to keep Carly Lloyd on the pitch after her handball. I was a little surprised when Lauren Cheney was subbed. She's been the US's best player and I would've probably gotten Lloyd out. I was worried from that handball on that she was going to commit a bad foul and leave the ref no choice but to put us down to 9.
posted by Ricardo at 09:45 AM on July 11
Hopefully this becomes FIFA's watershed moment and their process becomes much more transparent. I will not be surprised if they carry on with business as usual though.
posted by Ricardo at 12:26 PM on June 01
How exactly is getting a whole nickel off a pitcher "winning?"
I took it to mean they got a nickel off for EACH game they lost ... so as the season wears on, the beer gets cheaper and cheaper. At 100 or so losses, that's about $5 cheaper by the end of the season.
posted by Ricardo at 06:04 PM on May 17
Barcelonas' posession probably leads many teams to frustration which leads to an increase in cards. Teams like Real or Chelsea aren't used to having 30% of the time on the ball and that can be a real flashpoint for some of those players.
I will say that Pepes' challenge was pretty close to a 50-50 ball and probably only deserved a yellow, but was close enough that it could have gone either way.
I can't imagine UEFA will take these comments in stride and will probably hammer Mourinho.
posted by Ricardo at 09:31 AM on April 28
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