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Jim Brown calls out Tiger Woods

Blaming black people for their own oppression. How enlightened! posted by bperk at 3:52 PM CST on January 25 The poster was pointing out a truism. Forgiveness is in the hands of the oppressed, not the oppressor. In order for us to move closer to our potential as humankind, forgiveness must happen.

posted by Cave_Man at 04:20 PM on January 25

Jim Brown calls out Tiger Woods

It should be pointed out, that woods and kelly tilghman are not strangers. I dont know that they are friends, but they certainly are colleagues. They have had a positive working relationship for years now. They apparently met during college competitions. Woods came into college having an already massive reputation due to his dominance as an amateur, so it makes sense that a much lesser known college golfer would want to meet to and get to know him as a person. In competition, being around a winner and studying how that person operate often helps make people better.

posted by Cave_Man at 03:53 PM on January 25

Jim Brown calls out Tiger Woods

I'd like to see the peer-reviewed publication for this...Regardless, per society's definition of race, all you'd have to do is a search for the DNA which produces our skin color's pigment (assuming me know what DNA produces certain pigments, this is trivial) to find out who is what race. I have supplied one link on how geneticists are defining race. The issue is a complex one, but in essence, two people that are physically different can share a higher percentage of common genes with each other than they do with people that look like them physically. It all boils down to which genes are examined. There are differences between "races" that are important for medical reasons, scientists are studying why those diffences exist, are they geographical mutations to genes, ect? As seen by recent comments by Watson (who along with Francis Crick defined the earliest model of the human genome), there is debate among experienced geneticists as to the meaning and importance of genetic variation among humankind. http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=1&articleID=00055DC8-3BAA-1FA8-BBAA83414B7F0000 A scientific discussion of "race" is dry and basically flies over the head of most people. Either Time Magazine or Newsweek Magazine did an entire issue several years ago where the editors and scientific consultants broke down scientific research so that it was understandable to lay people. The conclusion was that race was a characterization that had little basis in genetics. On the issue of Jim Brown. He has a right to say what he thinks. The fact is that the reality of race that an older person like him experienced is different from what a younger person like Tiger Woods experiences, i.e, their perceptions of Tilghman's comment are grounded in the realities of their lives to date.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:39 AM on January 25

The American Revolution continues in London

ManU, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea. posted by yerfatma at 6:08 AM CST on January 24 Thanks.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:41 PM on January 24

Jim Brown calls out Tiger Woods

But, until people learn to forgive, I will have to be content to kiss my kids (all of them) goodnight and wish for a better world for them in the future. One where the color of your skin has nothing to do with the worth of your actions. posted by Mickster at 5:54 PM CST on January 24 The world will be a much better place for your children. People that feel everything in life revolves around race are of a dying breed, soon their numbers will be insignificant, life will progressively improve as they die off (excuse me if "die off" sound draconian to you, but to me, the situation is what it is).

posted by Cave_Man at 10:20 PM on January 24

Jim Brown calls out Tiger Woods

My genetic code creates mRNA which produce proteins that pigment my skin cells. Race is only an issue because people have difficulty accepting that our bodies are just puppets being controlled by a ridiculously potent brain. As geneticists learn more about the human genome they are finding that race will ultimately have to be redefined. So far geneticists have found that if there are three unrelated people sitting in a room, say two caucasion and one African American, one of the caucasions could be gentically of the same "race" as the African American and not of the same race as the second caucasion. Anthropologists have strong scientific evidence that humans originated in Africa then spread to other regions of the world. Some studies indicate that initial migration out of Africa involved humans that came from parallel, but different branches of pre-humans, some of those branches evolved, others did not, some of the early survivors later became casulties of evolution. Research and samples of remains indicate that some of the remaining branches migrated northward and some intermixed, while others did not. In the case of an African that is genetically of the same "race" as a European or an Asian, one explanation is that the two people came from the same racial strain that evolved into modern humans in different parts of the world. On the subject of Jim Brown calling out Tiger Woods, I support Tiger's position. If race as we know it is injected into every silly remark that is made by someone, we will never advance as a society. The suspension was the correct action for the announcer and Tiger Woods is ok that whar she said was a slip that does not represent what she is as a person, the situation should end with those actions.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:05 PM on January 24

The American Revolution continues in London

I will admit that football players are highly skilled while wearing the pads, fast and strong but they don't have the endurance that it takes to play soccer. In soccer there are no breaks in play until halftime, unlike football which has a lot of commercial breaks including the three timeouts for each team. And for basketball, each team has 5 timeouts I think, but they do a lot of running back and forth, so they got the endurance for soccer. Endurance has to be built, but my guess is that wide receivers and Defensive backs in american football have the physical build and genes to be soccer players. Phason makes a good case, Europe is filled with development at all levels of football competition, similar to what baseball, football and basketball have in this country.

posted by Cave_Man at 08:49 PM on January 23

The American Revolution continues in London

playing for someone like a Villa, Everton, Newcastle, or maybe as a longshot he could attract interest from one of the big four. posted by Chargdres at 3:15 PM CST on January Who are the big four in English football? I guess at three of them, ManU, Arsenal and Leeds.

posted by Cave_Man at 07:49 PM on January 23

Why Stephen Brunt didn't cast his Hall of Fame vote.

I have all the respect in the world for steven brunt. I appreciate his moral stand. I hope all the other writers will take note. I think they should all admit their complicity, then continue to leave mark mcgwire, barry bonds and anyone else who comes along who is in the same position out of the hall. posted by elijahin24 at 9:00 AM CST on January 22 I read the article on Brunt's reasoning and thought about his position. In the end, I agree with your position. If players that cut corners or are strongly suspected of cutting corners are allowed into the HOF, where does it stop - shouldn't Pete Rose be elected? HOF entry has always involved imperfect people voting on players.

posted by Cave_Man at 07:10 PM on January 22

Tom Brady Wearing Walking Cast

Has to be one of the top 3-5 pains ever. I have had it. It is extrodinarily painful, the only pain that I have had that was worse was ripped tissue along my shins.

posted by Cave_Man at 06:33 PM on January 22

Tom Brady Wearing Walking Cast

Brady ain't hurt- he was just making fun of the Giants field goal kicker, the one thats being waived after the Super Bowl. posted by irunfromclones at 2:58 PM CST on January 22 I can't imagine kicking a ball of any type in sub-zero weather. I find it amazing that the kickers on both teams were able to make one field goal between them.

posted by Cave_Man at 06:29 PM on January 22

Tom Brady Wearing Walking Cast

Does Gout happen in healthy people that are Brady's age? I was being facetious, Cave_Man. I don't really think he drinks that much red wine. posted by lil_brown_bat at 2:34 PM CST on January 22 Subtleties escape me LBB :-))

posted by Cave_Man at 06:23 PM on January 22

Tom Brady Wearing Walking Cast

I bet he's got gout. posted by lil_brown_bat at 12:25 PM CST on January 22 Does Gout happen in healthy people that are Brady's age? Brady got twisted on the sack by SD, maybe what one posted posted about seeing the back part of his leg near the knee taking some trauma is accurate, although, if he was wearing a brace, it seemed to have been around the ankle. I don't see Brady not playing as long as he can do anything that resembles walking. Rivers showed amazing guts Sunday, Brady probaly has at least that in him.

posted by Cave_Man at 02:09 PM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

An unmeasurable metric Look at the information that was provided and do the math.

posted by Cave_Man at 11:17 AM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

An unmeasurable metric. Tom Brady threw 398 completions this year. 2% of them went to Mr. Clutch. posted by yerfatma at 11:10 AM CST on January 22 2% of Brady's passes that make a difference is better than 98% of some other team's QB's attempts that do not make a difference. What is your point?

posted by Cave_Man at 11:15 AM on January 22

Tom Brady Wearing Walking Cast

Three passes? We're supposed to decide which quarterback is most likely to fill in based on three combined pass attempts that were thrown, what, three months ago? If the Patriots have to use a backup QB I'm sure the decision will be based on something more concrete than three pass attempts. posted by apoch at 10:18 AM CST on January 22 You are right on decisions not being made on limited pass attempts, The Hoodie is much too smart to do that. My intuition says that the true backup is Guiterrez (sp?). There was one key instance this season where Cassel could have and should have been sent into a game, but Guiterrez was sent in - that surpised Boomer Esiason, who I am sure had the NFL.com depth chart - Esiason implied after Guiterrez was sent in that the Patriots' depth at QB may have changed. Since the purpose of sending a backup into a game (even one that is on it's way to being won) is to get the person real game experience. The game was one where the Patriots were ahead for a win, but the offense needed to get a first down against the opposing #1 defense to seal the victory, Guiterrez being chosen for that assignment over Cassel says a lot, IMO. On the NFL.com depth chart, how often is that updated? Also, the website does not track day to day decisions that are made based upon how well a player is picking up a complicated offensive system.

posted by Cave_Man at 11:09 AM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

The guy you've described as a "great third down receiver" for the Pats hasn't caught a single third-down pass this entire season. Brady's a blocking tight end now. posted by rcade at 10:28 AM CST on January 22 You are right. I take the third down pass catcher term back. But, look at the information that you posted, something like 90% of Kyle Brady's catches either resulted in a first down OR made an attempt for a first down manageable, that is success in my book. I read the rules. Others should read them. I often see snide, underhand comments posted here and no one seems to challenge that when they are done by some posters. There are a number of Patriots haters here, that is a fact. I happen to be a Boston transplant Patriots' fan that was formerly a major fan of one of their divisional rivals. I became a Patriots and Red Sox fan because I got a chance to see first hand how much passion New England fans have for their teams and how honest and decent New England people are. It is ok when on this forum when someone makes an ignorant comment about about New Englanders and their conduct towards their teams without ever having lived among them, but it is not ok when someone that has lived among them and understands reality takes offense to putdowns of their (and now, my) teams. I have found New Englanders to be people that say what they mean and leave things at that, but when things are tough, they are quick to offer a helping hand - I have lived in every major part of the country and have not seen this in any other region - they deserve excellent teams and have every right to be proud of the accomplishments of those teams, haters of those teams be damned.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:53 AM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

Almost forgot to add this. Cave_Man, it is true that there is still a passing threat when 3 tight ends are in the game, but the defense can load up in the box without too much fear of the deep ball. Patriots went to a 3-tight end package on roughly 1/6 of their offensive snaps. Mike Reiss's excellent analysis has the details. Most of the sets (8) were run with a single wide receiver, and 3 were run with fullback and no wideout. posted by Howard_T at 9:36 AM CST on January 22 Howard. A three tight end set, by it's nature, is designed to get small yardage unless there is a defensive breakdown. The set is designed to free Maroney, Faulk or Evans and allow them to go one on one with a DB, or have Brady hit an open TE with a quick pass if the defense bite on the run.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:30 AM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

CaveMan: Labeling people "haters" is stupid and dismissive. Actually, my tone was intended to be more in line with how General Sherman dealt with the confederate south. As I said, the situation is what it is, I only deal with what I see.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:23 AM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

True enough, but I wonder if that's changing in the age of satellite TV subscriptions, Internet radio and the NFL Network, when you can follow any team obsessively no matter where you live. A kid who adopts the Patriots today could keep up with them forever. posted by rcade at 8:19 AM CST on January 22 Really? T BS broadcasts Atlanta Braves games all over, but I do not watch them or follow the team. LBB is closer to being right, people follow teams because of some form of affiliation to those teams. I would expect that an Atlanta transplant living in Boston would avidly follow Atlanta Braves games. As for Patriots fans outside of New England, emperical evidence (i.e, emperical means an unproven postulate for those prone to jump) suggests that the Patriots, as the Red Sox, have a big fan base outside of New England, probaly one of the biggest that any pro team has.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:20 AM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

CaveMan: Labeling people "haters" is stupid and dismissive. The situation is what it is. I simply call a spade a spade.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:13 AM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

Wait, so your empirical evidence is ok, or is it any empirical evidence in support of your point? posted by yerfatma at 8:06 AM CST on January 22 You really do not get out much, do you? Try watching Red Sox or Patriots games that are played in opponents stadiums and listen to the crowd response. LBB is perfectly on target with the observation on the Bruins-Sharks game crowd makeup.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:11 AM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

As for my hatred of the Patriots, they've been a division foe of the Dolphins as long as I can remember; it's not like I just woke up the other day and decided to be a "hater," as you seem so fond of saying. I've watched Miami engage in bitter division games with the Patriots, the Jets, the Bills, and the Colts for nearly 30 years, and I hate all of 'em. So, while your amateur psychotherapy is certainly appreciated, it is in no way correct. Case closed, let's move on. BTW, I never offer psychotherapy.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:06 AM on January 22

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

Kyle Brady has nine receptions for 70 yards on the season. Critical yards that made a difference. 70 yards, by the way, is 7 first downs, pretty critical in pro football. But since your reference is probaly high school ball, I forgive you.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:02 AM on January 22

Superbowl: Patriots vs. Giants 2.0

As for Gaffney becoming a bigger focus of the offense next year, that's quite possible. When Brady can make a guy like Reche Caldwell look good, as he did in previous years, he can make practically anyone look good. posted by dyams at 7:42 AM CST on January 22 The biggest reason why I think Gaffney will break out in the Super Bowl and go on to become a true star in 2008 is because he has taken to wholeheartedly drinking the Belichek coolaide (be prepared for every game, wait for your opportunity and take advantage when you get it). It is obvious that Brady is investing more trust in Gaffney because of the situations when he has looked for Gaffney this season (tough, need to gain a first down or score situations).

posted by Cave_Man at 09:54 AM on January 22

Tom Brady Wearing Walking Cast

This is Cassel's chance to takeover the reins in New England just like when Brady came in for Bledsoe several years back. Super Bowl MVP Matt Cassel posted by bender at 8:11 AM CST on January 22 My bet is that Guiterrez (sp?) is the starter if Brady cannot play.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:39 AM on January 22

Tom Brady Wearing Walking Cast

Matt Cassel slowly rises from his chair. "I knew this day would come. I have spent many nights preparing for such a scenario, and many days waiting.... And now that it is here - I know I'm ready." (Quickly grabs pre-packed bag of essential items, fake passport and one-way ticket to Bora Bora) posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 7:56 AM CST on January 22 If Brady cannot play, which seems highly unlikely, Guiterrez (sp?) is probaly going to be the starter at QB for the Patriots, he seems to have passed Cassel on the QB depth chart and in the few chances that he has had, seems to play more like Brady (makes smart choices) than Cassel does.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:37 AM on January 22

Superbowl: Patriots vs. Giants 2.0

Does that mean that u think Stallworth is out after this year? posted by B10 at 5:45 PM CST on January 21 I don't know. I think Stallworth will be a great keep for the Patriots, even if Gaffney comes along as I expect him to. Some receivers take more time to work into complex offensive systems. Stallworth is likely going to have a big year in 2008 also if he stays with the Patriots. The situation with Stallworth is his salary, with the Patriots given that the team will potentially sign Samuel and Moss to contracts.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:18 PM on January 21

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

"Kyle Brady is no longer known as a good receiver. He was signed to be an extra tackle and that's pretty much what he's done." Kyle Brady has been a great third down receiver for the Patriots. All Patriots tight ends are good blockers, so? On the third tight end, I will trust the Patriots to pick a player that fits their system more than you giving an opinion on him.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:06 PM on January 21

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

The Sporting News recently had a poll among NFL players on who is the dirtiest player in the league and Richard Seymour was very high on the list. If I am not mistaken Rodney Harrison was voted the dirtiest player in the league. Nick Hardwick also recieved a few votes. posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 7:10 PM CST on January 21 Football has been compared to war. I have never been in a war, but I would say that if you have your opponent thinking about what you are going to do to him or her before a battle starts, you have assumed a significant advantage.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:58 PM on January 21

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

he certainly should be looked at more closely, but if this is just sour grapes, as it appears to be, it isnt surprising. These two teams have a history of animosity. I would say to nick hardwick: man up. This isnt high-school girls volleyball. If it was, and the players heard him complaining, they would probably tell you to man up too. posted by elijahin24 at 6:27 PM CST on January 21 Harwick could have informed a Ref early in the game if there were discretions going on. Plus, he is likely as huge as any Patriot defensive player, if one punched him or a teammate in the back. he should have taken issue with that immediately.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:40 PM on January 21

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

In fact, some people, myself included, hate your team, and are always going to hate your team. No matter who they are, I'm sure. If I said that chocolate chip cookies were tasty, I suspect you'd find a way to hate those too. Until then, try just once being gracious in victory. I'll work on it if they get to 19-0. Meanwhile, I suppose I should get back to doing all the things that an un-gracious winner does, like gloating, insulting the losing team and its fans, predicting even greater victories, etc. Oh...wait...I haven't been doing any of that, have I? Nope, just wondering out loud about some pretty big assertions. Sorry if that ruins the site for you, but I just don't see it as anything to get all that bent out of shape over. posted by lil_brown_bat at 3:29 PM CST on January 21 Give up LBB. Reason and analysis is not going to win the day with haters. Play by their rules, play smash mouth with them. Envy is a powerful motivator, but it is also a lead weight, watch them sink deeper as they wish that before they croak, they experiemce the sports era that you are experiencing.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:08 PM on January 21

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

Are you kidding? The Steelers, 49ers, Packers and Cowboys all have national followings. The Cowboys -- because of how their national appeal has been marketed -- also have a national anti-following. Comparing the Pats to the Jags is crazy. Jacksonville's the least marketable team in the league outside of its region, in terms of TV ratings and merchandise. posted by rcade at 1:00 PM CST on January 21 The Boston Red Sox overtook the Yankees as the most popular baseball team nationally around two years ago. The numbers are massive, with Red Sox fans often taking over stadiums of opposing teams when the Red Sox come to their city to play. Since the vast majority of non-New England Red Sox fans have direct links to New England, it makes sense that most of them are also Patriots fans. That bit of information would indicate that the Patriots have a large fan base outside of New England.

posted by Cave_Man at 08:03 PM on January 21

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

4. New England has finally perfected its zone blocking scheme for the running offense. Putting 3 tight ends in the game tells the defense that you are about to run, but the defense still couldn't stop it. Not completely accurate. New England is a breeding ground for excellent pass catching tight ends. Ben Watson and Kyle Brady are great pass catchers, Watson tops that off with speed. My guess is that the third tight end is an excellent pass catcher with good speed. So, the New England Patriots do not have to run with a three or two tight end formation, the team can also pass from those formations. The use of tight ends as pass catchers likely comes from The Hoodie's experience with the Parcells Giants, those teams had excellent pass catching tight ends.

posted by Cave_Man at 06:50 PM on January 21

Superbowl: Patriots vs. Giants 2.0

Brady has always been most deadly when he utilizes his full complement of receivers, as he has in the playoffs thus far. If the Giants' secondary couldn't stop the Brady-to-Moss attempts that EVERYONE knew were coming, how will they stop the entire receiving corps, with the incredibly dangerous Faulk catching passes out of the backfield and Maroney running like a man possessed? Of course, the Giants are capable of beating the Patriots - but I think it's unlikely to happen for the reasons outlined above, the fact that the Patriots are very unlikely to overlook their opponent or crown themselves prematurely, and the fact that the Pats beat the G-Men in Giants Stadium a few short weeks ago. posted by Venicemenace at 6:58 AM CST on January 21 You did not mention Gaffney once. The guy is proving himself to be a big player at critical times (similar to Faulk). The Patriots started working him into more plays as defenses managed to slow down Moss and Stallworth. I expect Gaffney to have a breakout game in the Super Bowl and put himself in line to become a feature receiver for the New England Patriots in 2008.

posted by Cave_Man at 04:46 PM on January 21

Patriots advance to their 4th Superbowl in 7 years.

Well Hal I didn't Tivo the game but from what I saw it wasn't clear that he rolled well into the 1st down but since they didn't challenge you are probably right. I've seen too many spot replays go against the seahawks to say anything will definitely stand up. I believe you have to challenge, especially that late in the game, because you are screwed for sure if you just play on. posted by catfish at 7:23 PM CST on January 20 The spot was a little short of where Faulk rolled to before he was touched. If a review had happened, the ball would have ended up being placed a little more forward, still resulting in a first down.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:52 PM on January 20

Superbowl: Patriots vs. Giants 2.0

Seems like very low odds but can the Giants continue the Cinderella run and knock off the Patriots? The game is played because the outcome is not known until the final second has ticked off.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:39 PM on January 20

Rams owner dies after lengthy illness

And while we're talking about football, even though the USC Trojans are my favourite college team, they are still just a college team. Yes, but I was refuting the point another poster made that LA would not support football. I think the success USC and UCLA have in continuously attracting huge crowds of fans is strong evidence that LA absolutely would support an NFL franchise. posted by cjets at 3:50 PM CST on January 19 Winning solves all problems. Put a team that has a scheme for winning (sorry to some, but the New England Patriots and Boston Red Sox are the current models for such teams), fans will show up to all games and fill seats, not to mention buy team logo wear and gear.

posted by Cave_Man at 08:39 PM on January 19

More Bad Noose for Pro Golf

I find it incredibly hard to believe that Tilghman from South Carolina doesn't know about lynching in U.S.A. since the Civil War. Who doesn't know about Jim Crow? If someone from another country used this word, then I wouldn't even think a suspension was necessary -- maybe just a word to the wise and some required reading. However, the U.S. has a very, very ugly history with lynching and pretending that those connotations don't exist serves no purpose. She should have known better. Tilghman, eventhough she is from South Carolina, is only something like 30 years old. She was a golf jock most of her life (that seems to be how she first met Tiger, in college competitions). I would bet you that most people under forty years old, regardless of where they are from, know little if anything about the role of lynching in the jim crow south. It is entirely possible that the woman's parents taught her to respect other people and did not explain why they saw that as important, in such a situation, she would not understand the significance of terms that her parents understood all too well but chose to shield their daughter from. I grew up in the south and I know that jim crow history was seldom, if ever discussed because the majority of people were so ashamed of what happened, not because they wanted to forget it. People like Sharpron are professional rabble rousers, sort of like the blonde that shows up on FOX occasioanlly saying outrageous stuff. Such people produce no value for society when all is said and done. All rabble rousers find easy targets to attack, somehow that gives them a sense of importance.

posted by Cave_Man at 12:18 PM on January 18

Soccer Is As American As Apple Pie

These soccer fans are getting upset with us for asking what is so great about their sport. If it is so great i would think they would jump at the chance. Soccer requires exceptional fitness, great balance and limb control, a brilliant sense of timing, excellent anticipation of events that have to be reacted to in a split second if they happen, excellent mobility, great acceleration, and a great sense of position on the field of play. The individual battles among players on the pitch are part of a continum of battles taking place all over the pitch. Dangerous players are fronted one on one by an opposing player, but constantly shadowed by one or more additional opposing players. Those are the features that I love about the game. As I wrote, I played football and basketball as a kid and only started to play soccer as an adult. I compare soccer play to what happens between a wide reciever in football and the defensive backs, a striker tries to break down a defense in soccer just as a wide reciever tries to break down a defensive backfield. The defensive midfielder in soccer is equivalent to a strong safety in football while the soccer offensive midfielder is akin to a football quarterback.

posted by Cave_Man at 11:49 AM on January 18

Soccer Is As American As Apple Pie

Every year more and more kids grow up with the sport, much like myself. While they may continue to enjoy American sports, growing up with and understanding soccer will lead to more people loving the sport. The NASL couldn't last because there was no base, but the MLS has lasted and is steadily growing due to these young fans. Those that dislike soccer point to youth participation not trnaferring to a braoder adult fan base. Those people probaly have not played the game and probaly seldom attended any games that their kids participated in. The number of youth teams have increased something like 10 fold within the last decade, so much so that playing fields are difficult to come by and have to be scheduled well in advance, even when those fields have many playing time time slots available. The number of adult leagues have increased four to five fold. It is not a matter of whether soccer becomes the top USA professional sport, it is just a matter of when that happens. I say that it overtakes baseball within the next decade and pulls even with basketball in terms of fan base. American football will be harder to overcome, but as more people understand the beauty of soccer, it will ultimately overtake american football. There is nothing in any of that to be affraid of, all sports will continue to be played and have their fan base.

posted by Cave_Man at 11:30 AM on January 18

Soccer Is As American As Apple Pie

When one is at the game one can see the nuances of the game and the movement of the players away from the ball. Same with hockey. Same with almost all other sports, with the exception of basketball. The beauty of a game is in the details and the work done by players away from the ball. Terrapin and LBB hit the essence of soccer pretty much on the head. The game is not instuitive such as football and to some extent, basketball and to a much lesser extent, baseball are. A person has to have been born in a soccer nation and have played the game for a number of years to understand what is happening at all points on a soccer pitch (field), once that understanding exists, one sees the beauty of every good move by a player, even if it does not result in a score. The arguments used to pan soccer by those that dislike the game can be used to describe the experience that baseball is encountering worldwide (except in countries like Cuba, some South American countries and Japan, all of which got a heavy dose of baseball culture from the USA). Baseball, like soccer is a game that is difficult to understand if a person does not spend years watching the game, or playing it.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:46 AM on January 18

Soccer Is As American As Apple Pie

More... Soccer share similarities to football, except for tackling where a body is thrust into another body. A midfielder is a quarterback in soccer, that person attempts to locate situations where an attacker has broken down a defender, or can break down a defender. I played football and basketball in high school. I played soccer later in life and often watch kids play soccer now. Soccer is a more intensive game than basketball or football, it requires the stamina that constant fast breaking basketball teams possess and requires the explosiveness and field sense that creates offensive opportunities in basketball and football.

posted by Cave_Man at 12:37 AM on January 18

Soccer Is As American As Apple Pie

Soccer is a game that requires agility, balance, 180 degree vision, speed, smarts and a steely will. The game of soccer is an example of a basic form of non-lethal combat, where one group attempts to impose it's will on another group. The reason why there is not much scoring in soccer is that leagues are typically set up so that players are of equal ability. If someone wants to see high scoring, put a skilled team up against an unskilled one - many soccer parents often witness the result of such matchups during their kid's early soccer years. The US men's soccer squad is one of the highest ranked in the world, the women are either first or second in ranking (Germany can make a claim as #1 on the women's side). US soccer is doing ok and extremely talented players have migrated into the sport. During the recent past (10 years ago), only a couple members of the US team played in elite European leagues, now something approaching 1/2 - 2/3 the men's squad play in elite or second tier leagues across Europe. In addition, top tier players are playing in Major League Soccer. The next decade will see competition between the champion USA PRO team and the European championship team, or the champion of one of Europe's premier leagues. I am one that predicts that soccer will overtake baseball and/or basketball in popularity within the next 10-15 years. I do not see any reason why that prediction will not happen.

posted by Cave_Man at 12:27 AM on January 18

More Bad Noose for Pro Golf

Tiger is over it, however, some feel he missed this opportunity to fulfill his prophecy. posted by tselson at 1:10 PM CST on January 17 I read the prophecy article and feel that it is the author of the article that misses the point. The USA will never get past race as an issue as long as some in society insist upon drawing race into every incident that involves a member of a race saying something stupid. A racist is a person that has a constant behavior pattern of large and small negative actions against one or more race. From what I have read about her career, the woman that made the lynch reference does not have a pattern of behavior that would tag her as a racist. Wood is perfectly right to accept the apology and dismiss the issue.

posted by Cave_Man at 11:02 PM on January 17

Man Arrested for Forcing Son To Wear Packers Jersey

Scars, I hope admitting the problem is a big first step for you. Good luck in your racial bias recovery. We're pulling for you. posted by Texan_lost_in_NY at 9:07 PM CST on January 17 Tex. I am not sure whether he has racial problems, that is not obvious to me from his posts. What is obvious to me is he appears to be confused about proper disciplining of children by their parents.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:21 PM on January 17

Man Arrested for Forcing Son To Wear Packers Jersey

In my mind you can do this to the child if he is from 5 to 13 years old. It's not right to do this to girls though. If he passes that age, he should know better by then. Now I don't fear my father, although I respect him because he is family and he wants what's best for me. So there you go what you call abuse I call tough love. People can interpret it however they want to. I also want to say that I don't have any children, but I do plan on having kids someday. I want to close by saying that you only hit the kid when he doesn't understand at all whether he's throwing a temper tantrum in a store or he's cursing you,etc... You don't hit the kid if you are mad at a football game or something stupid like that. If you hit him then, you deserve to go to jail. Sorry for the long life story everybody, but I'm just speaking from personal experience and how I feel about this subject. posted by Scars at 6:42 PM CST on January 17 Heck. I am going to offer you my username, you seem to be closer to a cave than I ever have been. Sorry dude, your reasoning is twisted, it takes patience, love and constant reinforcement, but kids do not have to be struck in any fashion to get them to behave. I suggest that you warn your African American friends that you say strike their kids to stop - their striking their kids is assault in most, if not all, US states.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:18 PM on January 17

Man Arrested for Forcing Son To Wear Packers Jersey

why wouldn't he try the jersey on it's just a shirt afterall. I now understand why he didn't like it, the son and his mother were probably Bears fans!!!!!!! posted by Scars at 5:42 PM CST on January 17 Doesn't look like the child wanted to put the jersey on. The child is the owner of his body.

posted by Cave_Man at 06:14 PM on January 17

Lambeau's changing landscape

He mentioned that he doesn't rent the place out. Wow, he could make a boatload doing so. posted by diastematic at 11:46 AM CST on January 17 The guy runs a private equity firm. He most likely has all the money that he wants. He and his family fly in for each home game from Atlanta, that should tell you something, tickets for that should run north of $2000 per trip - THAT assumes that they fly coach, which they probaly do not. It is possible that he owns his an airplane that can seat four or more people.

posted by Cave_Man at 03:20 PM on January 17

A Rolling Stone Gathers Much Dirt

Moss mentioned an "accident" related to the incident that caused the petition. Looks like he did have a relationship with the woman. The relationship appears to be 11 years old according to Moss' statements. Another case study of why atheletes need to be careful in how they associate with the general public and bend backwards to avoid getting into situations like Moss is in. The incident is not going to be good for him longterm. My guess is that the Patriots will retain him next season, with controls in the contract that they offer him. This incident probaly makes it much more likely that Moss will resign with the Patriots instead of taking chances with another team. Moss was never a choice for advertisers because of his off the field incidents, those probaly caused him millions.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:18 PM on January 16

Patriots to Honor Booed Teenager

OK, OK, I'll try and bring my sense of humor next time I'm posting. :-) - as Cave_Man would say. posted by cjets at 4:41 PM CST on January 16 Hey. How did I get involved in your little spat? I don't need anyone else to start fights for me, I can do that myself :-)).

posted by Cave_Man at 05:30 PM on January 16

Patriots to Honor Booed Teenager

1. Shitty Super Bowl halftime shows 2. OK, so it would only solve one problem. posted by BitterOldPunk at 3:39 PM CST on January 16 I would love to see the Super Bowl played outdoors in New England, or Green Bay or Buffalo during late January, early February. That would solve the bad halftime shows because all of the "celebrities" would sell their tickets to true football fans that will tolerate brutal weather to watch a game - there would be no need to entertain anyone, the entertainment would be on the field.

posted by Cave_Man at 05:00 PM on January 16

Patriots to Honor Booed Teenager

Thanks Bdaddy for saying what I've been thinking all morning. That's what you've been thinking all morning? I want to be you, dude. posted by jerseygirl at 1:49 PM CST on January 16 Good shot! I had been thinking about delivering that one all day :-)

posted by Cave_Man at 03:12 PM on January 16

Patriots to Honor Booed Teenager

Not quite sure what people expect a crowd of fans to do when a person seemingly invited by the team walks onto the field at a Colts playoff game wearing a Pats jersey. I'd have booed her too. All in good fun, of course, which she seems to have a handle on. It's not in poor taste. It's entirely predictable. One would think that the fault lies with her. If I understand how the competion works, she entered it in the region of the team in her home area, the New England Patriots. When she won her regional, she became the kid competing for her regional. I think that the NFL ask the kids to wear the jersey of the team attached to the regional that they won. I do not think that what the Colts fans did is bad and I do not think what Kraft is doing is driven by a desire to stick to the Colts. The Colts fans were doing some good natured kidding and Kraft seems to want the kid to hear the adulation of a crowd. I hope that when this is all finished, fans everywhere during the future that when a future PPK winner is introduced, the kid gets the cheers and adulation that their accomplishment deserves, regardless of the jersey that they were. On one possitive note out of this, some video was shown of the kid playing soccer, looks like she is a pretty good player, if she continues to develop as a player, this incident probaly has produced a college scholarship for her.

posted by Cave_Man at 02:58 PM on January 16

Adam "Pacman" Jones

Pacman was born poor and lived poor for most of his life Correction. I should have wrote probaly was born and raised poor. There are no assumptions made on this site ever.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:16 PM on January 15

Adam "Pacman" Jones

Pacman was born poor and lived poor for most of his life Correction. I should have wrote probaly was born and raised poor. There are no assumptions made on this site ever.

posted by Cave_Man at 09:10 PM on January 15

Adam "Pacman" Jones

Did I hear correct....this happened Jan. 3? Why is it just coming out? posted by kcfan4life at 4:52 PM CST on January 15 The attempt to get money out of him did not work.

posted by Cave_Man at 08:53 PM on January 15

Adam "Pacman" Jones

Couldn't he have a dozen strippers for hire in his hotel room? Once a player with his reputation steps into a piece o' shit strip club, he would automatically be a target for trouble. (Whether he causes it or not.) Pacman has got to be smarter than this, right? Right now these are only allegations, but no matter how this turns out, by many he's gonna be percieved as guilty. posted by BoKnows at 3:46 PM CST on January 15 Pacman was born poor and lived poor for most of his life. What happens is that eventhough he has planty of money, he does not know how to get private strippers, so he takes the obvious route. I am not sure that private strippers for him is a good idea, the guy seems to be an extremely anti-social person and may end up with some serious charges against him if left alone in a room with a woman.

posted by Cave_Man at 08:39 PM on January 15

Giants down Cowboys 21-17:

pedal a stationary bike underwater That makes a lot more sense. Some talking head said an "underwater treadmill", which seemed like a damned difficult proposition. If he had on a snorkel mask while doing it the process would be possible and probaly give the arobic effect that he desires. But I agree with you, I should have checked the announcer's claim more, I do know that there are exercise bikes that have liquid resistance - maybe the announcer confused the two, but as stated earlier, a person can pedal underwater with a snorkel mask.

posted by Cave_Man at 10:37 PM on January 14

18 "sent home" early from Sony Open:

I like the above idea better. When it's all said and done, though, it really won't make any difference to me. Unless you're at the course watching in person, who the heck cares who plays at the bottom of the field the last two days. I'll rarely, if ever, see them on the TV coverage. posted by dyams at 1:14 PM CST on January 14 Backmarkers in tournaments slow play. If a player has no chance of winning, they should be cut (regardless of who they are) so that the final round is played faster. Such a rule would place more emphasis on good play during the first three days.

posted by Cave_Man at 07:19 PM on January 14