There is no way that the carrier would hand over the information as part of some internal NFL investigation. Even if this goes to federal court, the content of those text messages (or recipients of the messages or phone calls) is irrelevant at this point. The argument is whether the punishment is fair, not whether the ruling was correct in the first place.
An appeal in federal court would be about procedure and method of rule enforcement, not the deflation issue. Cell phone records are, as you said, no longer relevant toward any appeal or legal procedure going forward. But to me, all that does is deflect the issue of Brady's culpability. Does Brady's reputation get rescued, win or lose? It didn't seem to help the bountygate players and coaches when their suspensions and punishments were overturned.
posted by NerfballPro at 02:50 PM on July 30
I'm no Goodell fan, but whether or not you want to believe his judge jury and executioner act is good for the league, you have to look with a critical eye at Tom Brady for destroying his cellphone during the midst of this investigation. And I just can't buy the story that he thought investigators wouldn't need it during their collection of evidence in the case.
- He may or may not have used it to send and receive texts on the matter.
- It's possible the NFL could petition his carrier to turn over records of texts both sent and received using the phone (the legalities of this are another subject altogether)
- It may even be his practice to destroy old cellphones to protect his privacy once he obtains a new one for use.
If he wanted a chance at reducing (or preferably, eliminate) his suspension, he should've held onto it. Destroying it just made him look like he was trying to hide something, or at least showed everyone he's a complete imbecile.
posted by NerfballPro at 02:10 PM on July 29
Net Savings to Patriots: $2,700,000
Also have to factor in: lost ticket sales in the first four games because people want to see Brady, not Garoppolo; missed playoff games if they miss the playoffs by a game or two (or if seeded 3 or 4 instead of 1 or 2, the extra playoff game they host), not to mention the salary of the players they don't draft (or the resulting trades to replenish the roster to cover the missed picks). It can get convoluted, but the point is, it's all speculative and hard to pin a true price on this.
But you're right Joey, they'll probably still come out way ahead in the long run.
posted by NerfballPro at 07:38 AM on May 13
I could see them going 1-3 or 0-4 if the backup stinks. As for the draft picks not fazing them, losing a first rounder is huge.
The backup stinks? On a Belichick team? Really?
The draft picks might hurt some long-term, but the Pats have already been through this (Spygate)
posted by NerfballPro at 10:40 PM on May 11
Brady is 37. This suspension could help keep the Pats out of home-field advantage next season.
Odds are, Brady would welcome the additional rest at that age. And Belichick can weather four games of Brady-less ball against a fairly easy schedule (Steelers, @Bills, Jags, @Cowboys) and the Patriots will still contend.
Plus, they get to keep their rings and the lost draft picks won't faze them much.
The NFL has meted out the punishments to silence the haters. Goodell reasserts his judge, jury and executioner persona. Everybody goes home happy today.
posted by NerfballPro at 06:14 PM on May 11
Points, rebounds, assists, Tony Awards.
Does that mean that flops are tracked as a statistical category now?
posted by NerfballPro at 01:02 PM on February 14
The only thing I can say about my performance is that old cliche: Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day.
Other than that, I do vote for tightening the spread as well, and would like to add increasing the bonus points for being dead-on with the number picks (increase to two points instead of one, maybe?)
Thanks for running the game, rcade......and thanks hincandenza and everyone.
posted by NerfballPro at 08:34 AM on February 13
I haven't seen any results posted either. I know everyone's busy, but I have to admit, I'm a little curious too...
posted by NerfballPro at 01:54 PM on February 11
I hope he keeps on keeping on for as long as he can.
Me too. How many get the chance to play for as long as he has? Heck, how many have the same career for this long? And it seems he's done with without chemical enhancement as well.
posted by NerfballPro at 11:45 AM on February 10
hincandenza's suggestion sounds good to me if you want to do it that way
posted by NerfballPro at 03:13 PM on February 01
New England by 7Most Passing Yards: BradyMost rushing Yards: Lynch Most Receiving Yards: GronkowskiFirst Touchdown: GronkowskiSack: WilforkInterception: RevisTotal Score: 521st Quarter: 17Halftime: 313rd Quarter: 45
posted by NerfballPro at 01:28 PM on January 31
And to think that's how it all evolved into "I'm just here so I won't get fined"
posted by NerfballPro at 04:28 PM on January 28
I don't see him staying on the Browns roster after this.
With the DUI arrests and the missed team meetings prior to this he was already on a short leash. It's pretty sad to see someone as talented as he is choose substance abuse over his livelihood.
posted by NerfballPro at 02:39 AM on January 26
A good alternate title for this piece would be: Kind of Black and Blue
posted by NerfballPro at 11:38 AM on January 24
I'd wanted to pick Suggs but with the Ravens-Steelers already going when I finally got to a computer on Saturday I elected to stay away from that game to avoid any potential disputes with scoring.
Seattle by 7Indianapolis by 3 Most points: IndianapolisQB most yards: Andrew Luck RB most yards: Marshawn Lynch Most receiving yards: Reggie Wayne
posted by NerfballPro at 05:39 PM on January 16
I'm late; reserve duty sucks sometimes. I'm making my picks after the Bal-Pitt game has kicked off, and I don't know what all has happened, so if anything I put on here doesn't qualify feel free to take the point off.
Baltimore by 3
Seattle by 14
Green Bay by 3
Denver by 4
Most points: Seattle
Most rush yards: Marshawn Lynch
Sack: Von Miller
GB Temp: 20F
posted by NerfballPro at 06:17 PM on January 10
Who the heck voted for Aaron Boone?
Who the heck is Darin Erstad?
posted by NerfballPro at 04:56 AM on January 07
One of the few credible ESPN anchors gone way too damn soon.
posted by NerfballPro at 01:39 PM on January 04
Carolina by 10
Baltimore by 3
Dallas by 6
Indianapolis by 13
Most points: Indianapolis
Most passing yards: Andrew Luck
Interception: Glover Quin
posted by NerfballPro at 12:51 PM on January 03
The BCS matchup for this season would have almost certainly been Florida State (undefeated, defending national champions) vs. Alabama (one-loss SEC champion), with Oregon and Ohio State battling it out in the Rose Bowl as a consolation prize.
One of the biggest cliches in sports is that "this game isn't played on paper; it's played on the field." While I still have reservations about this new playoff system, I still favor it over the previous BCS methodology where the games were seemingly "played on paper" (or on computer, if you will) to determine who gets to play for the championship. Here, Florida State and Alabama were taken out on the field whereas before, they would've merely defaulted to the championship game as Etrigan stated. Really, this isn't a bad thing at all.
posted by NerfballPro at 01:04 PM on January 02
He never had a really good QB
Rex had two highly-regarded prospects (acknowledging they weren't Peyton Manning sure things, but neither were many in the top 10), both of whom seemed to regress rather than progress under his leadership.
Ownership tasked him over the years to develop a franchise quarterback (Sanchez, Tebow, Smith, to name three) and that's not something you ask a defensive-minded coach to do. And the material he was given to develop one wasn't exactly the best to begin with:
Sanchez: USC stock, who traditionally don't adapt well to the pro game anyway
Tebow: let's not get started with this discussion again
Smith: Jury's still out on him, but doesn't look promising so far.
This is probably why Idzik is unemployed along with Ryan.
posted by NerfballPro at 09:24 AM on December 31
Kitterman was found, unharmed Tuesday. But the mystery behind his disappearance still remains.....
posted by NerfballPro at 05:08 AM on October 29
A salute to veterans at Saturday's Giants-Nationals game. Army SFC Brian Keaton throws out the first pitch with a certain style.
posted by NerfballPro at 10:29 AM on October 06
Considering how bad Morris was, the fact that Brady Hoke is still employed at the University of Michigan nearly 48 hours after the game makes me think the AD should join the list of those who should be relieved of their duties as well.
posted by NerfballPro at 01:56 PM on September 29
An interesting historical find: a newsreel of the 1919 World Series, Cincinnati Reds vs. Chicago White Sox. These are excerpts taken from various games and compiled into this report. For a perspective, this was assembled before word of the "Black Sox Scandal" broke and even includes a play where a Sox pitcher bobbles what arguably should've been an easy double-play ball. (Note: the edges of the film are noticeably degraded and do distract a little from the viewing)
posted by NerfballPro at 06:58 AM on May 04
The Rays' Yunel Escobar strikes out on a 4-2 pitch.
posted by NerfballPro at 12:47 PM on April 23
Raiders maybe, but no chance with NE if his background reveals even a tiny bit of gang-related activity. Hernandez has taught them well.
No chance with anyone, likely, regardless of his talent. Hernandez schooled 32 NFL owners and GMs on what it's like to have a player with alleged gang issues and is known as a locker room distraction. It's a lesson that's going to stick for awhile, so it's tough to imagine any team picking him up for awhile.
posted by NerfballPro at 04:36 PM on March 28
At least we now know the true genesis of Incognito's tweets a couple of days ago. He must've been going crazy waiting for the report knowing the axe was going to fall squarely on his neck.
posted by NerfballPro at 12:08 PM on February 14
Shanahan is thinking about benching RG3 for the season. Why not just resign now?
Why not have a little fun pissing off Dan Snyder on your way out?
posted by NerfballPro at 03:59 PM on December 10
One of my favorites growing up.
posted by NerfballPro at 08:55 AM on November 14
When satisfying the terms of a wager, in this case the Bears-Packers Monday night, goes horribly but comically wrong.
posted by NerfballPro at 09:13 AM on November 07
So when do we all sit in a circle and start to sing "Kum-Ba-Yah"?
posted by NerfballPro at 09:51 AM on November 06
I was fearing that Houston fans would be cheering his collapse.
posted by NerfballPro at 03:48 PM on November 04
Can anyone see a scenario where the NFL or the Dolphins allow Jr to play another down of football ?
Incognito's contract ends after this season; smart money's on the following: not only has he already played his last down in Miami, even if Goodell allows him to play in the future he's likely played his last professional down, period.
posted by NerfballPro at 03:46 PM on November 04
Yes, that's the same umpire, but unless you're a time travelling person, that was over 3 years ago (June 2010).
Yep, I know better than to argue with the grum. I had the right game, the pitcher (Armando Galarraga), but had the date wrong. Though I could've sworn it happened not so long ago. Guess the chronometer in my TARDIS needs repair.
posted by NerfballPro at 08:53 AM on October 27
Hey, wasn't that Jim Joyce who made the call at third base? Wasn't he the guy who made that botched call that cost a pitcher a perfect game in the ninth inning last season?
posted by NerfballPro at 08:45 AM on October 27
In search of a lost baseball.
posted by NerfballPro at 01:02 PM on October 15
I really do think Rex wants out of New York. He's an idiot, but if that's true I honestly can't blame him.
posted by NerfballPro at 03:38 AM on August 26
Lying is one thing; taking down someone else with your lies is a bigger issue.
And Dino Laurenzi should be on the phone to his lawyer making arrangements to sue Braun for an amount that he won't have to worry about putting his, grandkids, and great grandkids through college, all expenses paid.
posted by NerfballPro at 09:49 AM on August 24
MLB suspends Ryan Dempster for 5 games for allegedly hitting Alex Rodriguez deliberately.
Probably for failing to knock A-Rod out for 211 games with his fastball.
posted by NerfballPro at 07:35 AM on August 21
We've all said stupid shit in anger, often when we've been drinking.
That's true, but alcohol can't make a stone bleed. I've seen it too often, whatever vice a person believes but keeps hidden from the world, be it racism, misogyny, anti-semitism, homophobia, or what have you, put enough alcohol in that body and watch it come to the surface. No matter how well Cooper mans up here, apparently the context and circumstance was enough to make Michael Vick and DeSean Jackson speak out against him. Now, say what you will about those two, but I don't see Cooper as an Eagle come opening day.
posted by NerfballPro at 10:34 PM on August 01
Finally the Cowboys will have enough money to field a competitive team.
You mean Jerry's relenting and hiring a decent GM and letting football-knowledgeable people run the team? I thought this discussion thread was about the renaming of Cowboys Stadium.
posted by NerfballPro at 07:01 PM on July 26
Funny. $72.5 million is a slap in the face I'd love to have any day.
posted by NerfballPro at 05:25 PM on July 23
I imagine Braun accepting a suspension means they have some strong evidence against the players.
Translation: your ass is grass, A-Rod.
posted by NerfballPro at 08:29 PM on July 22
Don't eat the yellow ice.
posted by NerfballPro at 06:12 PM on July 18
12-year-old Ohio State fan beats "Michigan"
posted by NerfballPro at 01:19 PM on July 10
The decision 2013 is today.
posted by NerfballPro at 09:23 AM on July 05
Did they finally retire the butt fumble from it's spot as Not Top Ten champion?
In a word, no.
posted by NerfballPro at 09:59 AM on June 28
To explain my above post, it wasn't an intention to blame Goodell as it was to point out that, perhaps any policy he's tried to implement has been ineffectual or even irrelevant. Even going through bounty-gate with the Saints you have to give him a degree of credit for trying.
So he's not a complete scumbag. Y'know, as far as [alleged] psychopathic borderline serial killers go.
As far as alleged psychopathic borderline serial killers with ties to gangs go.
posted by NerfballPro at 04:12 PM on June 27
...Hernandez' arrest was the 27th arrest of an NFL player since the Super Bowl in February.
Kudos on the success of your player conduct policy.
--an NFL fan
posted by NerfballPro at 12:29 AM on June 27
What kills me about this, is by waiving Hernandez, the Patriots have waived the right to recoup salary already paid to him, and are still on the hook for the rest of his contract. The next two years are a $12.5M hit the Patriots have to absorb against the salary cap. So Hernandez gets paid to (very possibly) do serious time.
What the hell is wrong with sports culture in the U.S.?
posted by NerfballPro at 02:42 PM on June 26
Dude has some real problems.
Dude has some real real problems.
posted by NerfballPro at 08:52 AM on June 21
I'm not a Heat fan by any stretch of the imagination, and I'm of the vast majority of people that wanted to see them fail. However, I have to admit a certain admiration of this team's "fuck you all" attitude toward the naysayers and critics who want to see them fail as miserably as possible. With the exception of the first season the "big three" were together, they've gotten the job done (note I'm writing this hours before the Game 7 tipoff). Like them or loathe them, you have to give them at least a degree of begrudging respect for the way they've buckled down and taken care of business.
-- if they sweep, it's because they're so stacked, so it's no big deal; if they go to seven games, it's because they don't try real hard.
Indiana is an up and coming team that likely put the pieces together just to match up against (and beat) Miami. Ultimately, experience won out this time but don't be surprised if the Pacers take the Heat out in next year's playoffs if they stay healthy.
posted by NerfballPro at 05:28 AM on June 20
Brawl aftermath: total of eight Dodgers and Diamondbacks suspended; Ian Kennedy gets 10 games.
posted by NerfballPro at 02:26 PM on June 14
And here I was thinking that the Spurs' decision to have a second year guy, Kawhi Leonard, guarding LeBron was pretty much a concession to let him have his way on the court. Have Parker, Duncan and Ginobili guard Wade, Bosh, and anyone else who could help LeBron out; make him carry the entire weight of his team on his shoulders because we know what those results have been in the past, right?
Turns out Popovich putting Leonard on LeBron was a genius move for more direct reasons. Leonard is giving LeBron fits in the paint as well as the perimeter, and the field goal percentage last night is very telling of his defensive efforts. And when you factor in how beat up the Heat are from the Pacers series, it's looking pretty good for the Spurs to finish the series before it gets a chance to return to Miami.
Still, at least 2 games to go, and anything can happen.
posted by NerfballPro at 04:18 PM on June 12
The Arizona Diamondbacks pay a special tribute to Cory Hahn.
posted by NerfballPro at 11:10 AM on June 09
Brain Urlacher retires.
Prompting the Arizona Cardinals to honor him by channelling Dennis Green.
posted by NerfballPro at 05:11 PM on May 22
Update on the Boston Marathon bombing story: it was a hot time in Watertown last night.
posted by NerfballPro at 08:55 AM on April 19
I don't have a link handy, but I've heard that authorities have a lead on at least one guy who might be directly responsible for the bombs. Justice here is what matters to me instead of the ongoing debate on dark humor here, with all due respect to the involved parties.
posted by NerfballPro at 09:06 AM on April 16
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