May 04, 2006

NHL Playoffs Pick'em Round 2: Leaderboard after round 1. There's less than two days until the second round begins, so make your picks now. More inside:

posted by mkn to fantasy at 10:02 AM - 109 comments

Round 1 proved to be completely unpredictable in the West -- not a single person picked the four correct winners -- so it'll be interesting to see how the picks will distribute now that there isn't a single clear favorite in the West. East (1) Ottawa vs. (4) Buffalo (2) Carolina vs. (3) New Jersey West (5) San Jose vs. (8) Edmonton (6) Anaheim vs. (7) Colorado

posted by mkn at 10:02 AM on May 04

My picks: East Ottawa in 6 Carolina in 7 West San Jose in 6 Colorado in 5.

posted by mkn at 10:04 AM on May 04

West San Jose in 5 - Still waiting for a guy named Joe to appear... Anaheim in 7 - I like Niedermayer and Teemu over Blake and Sakic. East Ottawa in 4 - You better believe it, baby! Buffalo doesn't have the defense to stop this squad. Not even close. New Jersey in 5 - Carolina's play against Montreal was less than inspiring, and is NJ hotter than hot shit. This will be ugly.

posted by Succa at 10:24 AM on May 04

mkn: The numbers in the brackets are off for a few people (DJE and Folkways being obvious). You might want to recount them. I believe the total scores are correct, however. East: Buffalo in 7 New Jersey in 6 West: San Jose in 6 Colorado in 7 My picks are (3/4ths) based on my confidence pool numbers, so if I'm wrong there, I'm going to be wrong here as well. In for a penny, in for a pound...

posted by grum@work at 10:36 AM on May 04

My picks.... Ottawa - 5 New Jersey - 6 San Jose - 7 Anaheim - 6

posted by skydivemom at 10:38 AM on May 04

grum, as I said in the other thread:

The first bracket number is for how many series winners were picked, no matter how many games it took. The second is how many correct series winners AND the number of games it took them. So the second one is the number of "perfect" picks. You can also sort by those numbers if you click on their "Results" counter-parts. I added those because I figured that adding a point for number of games was kind of arbitrary (though it does balance the scores a bit).

posted by mkn at 10:47 AM on May 04

East Ottawa in 5 games New Jersey in 7 games (probably will be the best series of the playoffs) West San Jose in 6 games. The Sharks are fitter, happier and more productive than the Wings. Colorado in 6 games. Good things happen when the Avs trade for a Montreal goalie late in the season.

posted by HATER 187 at 11:01 AM on May 04

When it comes to the East, I'm sticking with what I said yesterday, even though I'm tempted to change them just to have something different from grum@work. I have no idea about the West so I'm just gonna roll the bones. Buffalo in 7 NJ in 6 San Jose in 5 Anaheim in 6

posted by njsk8r20 at 11:53 AM on May 04

East Sabres in 7 Canes in 7 West Sharks in 7 Ducks in 6

posted by garfield at 12:18 PM on May 04

Woo Hoo! Redemption time (lousy Calgary no-shows): East: Ottawa in 6 NJ in 6 West: San Jose in 5 Anaheim in 6

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 12:37 PM on May 04

East Ottawa vs. Buffalo - Ottawa in 7 Carolina vs. New Jersey - New Joisey in 5 West San Jose vs. Edmonton - San Jose in 6 Anaheim vs. Colorado - Colorado in 6

posted by NoMich at 12:50 PM on May 04

East: Sens in 5 'Canes in 7 West: Oils in 7 (well, shit, somebody has to pick 'em) Avs in 6

posted by willthrill72 at 01:19 PM on May 04

Eastward: Ottawa in 6 New Jersey in 6 Westward: Edmonton in 7 Colorado in 6

posted by Samsonov14 at 01:37 PM on May 04

Ottawa in 5 Jersey in 6 SJ in 6 Colorado in 7

posted by rocket88 at 02:11 PM on May 04

Garf, we picked opposites. The winner will have to live in New Jersey and the loser will have to move to Austin. Deal?

posted by Samsonov14 at 02:20 PM on May 04

I'm not very good in excessive heat, but ok.

posted by garfield at 02:23 PM on May 04

buffalo in 7 jersey in 6 edmonton in 6 anaheim in 7

posted by goddam at 02:32 PM on May 04

Man, I hope I lose.

posted by Samsonov14 at 02:34 PM on May 04

HATER sayeth: New Jersey in 7 games (probably will be the best series of the playoffs) It's gonna be a terrible series. Gionta is going to score a hat trick every game and Brodeur will literally turn into a brick wall. The Canes will win one game, but only because the Devils will take a wrong turn in Richmond on their way down here tomorrow.

posted by NoMich at 02:43 PM on May 04

and Brodeur will literally turn into a brick wall - cue 'Transformers' theme song. But NoMich, what's with picking the Devils?!!

posted by garfield at 03:00 PM on May 04

I think these teams (NJ and Carolina) stack up pretty evenly, except for in goal, but who really compares to that pile of fuck named Marty.

posted by HATER 187 at 03:01 PM on May 04

East (4) Buffalo in 6 (3) New Jersey in 6 West (8) Edmonton in 6 (7) Colorado in 7

posted by ajaffe at 03:15 PM on May 04

Ottawa in 7 NJ in 6 Ducks in 6 SJ in 6

posted by tselson at 03:27 PM on May 04

garfield typed: But NoMich, what's with picking the Devils?!! I'm pissed at the front office at the present. Us season-ticket holders are being invoiced for the final two rounds of the playoffs right now. After being a season-ticket (mini-games packs) holder from the 2001-2002 season through right now, they are finally pricing me out of my seats for rounds 3 and 4. My wife is in grad school, so there is no way that I can justify putting $600 for my nosebleed seat on our credit card for 7 or 8 games. I know it doesn't sound a lot for you major market hockey fans, but it's just too much money for us right now. There's quite a few hardcore Caniacs that can't afford the final two rounds either. Those people have lower level, full on season tickets for their entire families and they are looking at thousands of dollars for the final two rounds. I've mentioned it here before, but I'll restate it: this team does not have corporate support. The fans in the seats are made up of college students, families and working class schlubs. So, I don't know why the front office would all of a sudden decide that price spikes that triple and quadruple ticket prices for the final two rounds would be a good idea. Would they be able to dig up corporate support this quickly? I don't think so. However, I'm sure they'll still sell the seats to out-of-towners and band-wagoners, but I think they are in the process of alienating their hardcore fan base that stuck it out through the really shitty seasons. We were the laughing stock of this league for a long time and us hardcores grinned and beared, and now we feel like we're getting shit on our very own team. I still want them to win, but this situation has brought on some dark clouds. I really want to be in the arena to watch our home games, but it's nearly impossible. I still remember the Cup run in 2002 and it was a very special time and I'd like to a part of it again. They spiked the prices then too, so I knew it was coming, but it wasn't nearly this bad.

posted by NoMich at 03:29 PM on May 04

Will nobody else pick a sweep?

posted by Succa at 04:11 PM on May 04

$600 for my nosebleed seat on our credit card for 7 or 8 games $600 for 8 playoff games? *blinks* Wow, that's incredibly cheap (well, relative to here). Fucking corporate Leaf ticket sales.

posted by mkn at 04:40 PM on May 04

East Buffalo in 5 games Carolina in 6 games West San Jose in 4 games Anaheim in 7 games As I dig my way out of the basement.

posted by Folkways at 04:49 PM on May 04

East Buffalo in 6 New Jersey in 5 West San Jose in 7 Colorado in 6 And NoMich if you think your ticket prices are bad, try coming up to Detroit and trying to get Red Wings tickets.

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 05:41 PM on May 04

I have to grab a ladder to reach your spot, Folkways. And that bird is ahead of both of us and didn't even pick length of series. Anyway, NJ in 5 Ottawa in 6 Edmonton in 6 Anaheim in 4

posted by gspm at 05:42 PM on May 04

Apparently you guys skimmed over the part where I mentioned that my wife is currently attending grad school. Is that shit free up in your market?

posted by NoMich at 05:52 PM on May 04

No, I saw that part NoMich and I understand why it must be difficult to obtain tickets in that situation. I was simply saying that even though Carolina has jacked prices, they still don't compare with other team's prices.

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 06:40 PM on May 04

Ottawa in 5 New Jersey in 6 San Jose in 6 Colorado in 7

posted by MeatSaber at 06:53 PM on May 04

East Ottawa in 6 Carolina in 7 West San Jose in 7 Anaheim in 5

posted by The_Black_Hand at 07:11 PM on May 04

$600 for my nosebleed seat on our credit card for 7 or 8 games If the Leafs made it into the playoffs, that value (in Canuck bucks) would probably be pretty close to what people would pay for a single ticket to a single game.

posted by grum@work at 07:48 PM on May 04

Back from vacation and still sobbing over the Wings. Told the wife it's all her fault since I wasn't home to watch the games and give them my drunken support. Still, here goes: East: Ottawa in 5 Carolina in 7 West: Avs in 5 SJ in 6

posted by commander cody at 08:15 PM on May 04

Easterly: Ottawa in 5 Joisey in 6 Westerly: Edmonton in 6 'Lanche in 7

posted by chicobangs at 08:53 PM on May 04

you guys do know that people in jersey don't actually pronouce it "joisey", right?

posted by goddam at 09:18 PM on May 04

and they also can't spell pronounce.

posted by goddam at 10:29 PM on May 04

Your market comparisons aren't even close to my point. Who fucking cares how much a single game ticket costs in Detroit or Toronto? Think about the differences in the markets. Of course a market with a long, solid history of hockey is going to net more money per seat than a market that is burgeoning. That there is a pretty rock-solid "duh". My point is, I'm pretty sure that I can't come up with $600 in less than 10 days. And I'm pretty sure that a whole family will be even harder pressed to come up with 3 or 4 large in that same time frame*. Again, the Canes fanbase isn't made up of Ford execs or whatever middle managers run Toronto corporations. They are made up of IT dorks, cable TV installers, construction site managers, CPAs and communications majors at NC State. Among others of course. And that is exactly my point. We're regular Joes that love our Canes, but we also have to pay the mortgage/rent. We're not expensing it for our clientelle. I understand that the organization wants to take advantage of a great situation that they find themselves in right now. The problem is that they seem to be doing it at the expense of their fanbase. There's going to be a short term monetary gain, but this might be in exchange for a long term loss. If we don't ante up for the last two rounds, we lose our claim to our seats that we have had for a very long time now. Even during the cellar dweller days. Long term loyalty is being spent for short term cash. I'm afraid that I'm still not making any sense. And for that, I'm sorry. Just humor me while I vent my spleen. This is the last I'll say on this matter. I'm sure that by 2:00PM Saturday, I'll be feeling much different about this, but until then, I'm going to feel like I swallowed a brick. I knew I should've eaten my 100 black eyed peas this past January 1st. * - You have seen how badly the average American family is in debt, right?

posted by NoMich at 11:08 PM on May 04

I would like to turn to the wisdom of Dany Heatley's words spoken during an Ottawa-Buffalo game earlier this season:

"It started out with a kiss, how did it end up like this ... yah! Alright! Booyah! ... They're trying to be aggressive, we should pick 'em apart ... It's not fair, it's just not fair. How can he do that, eh? We're gonna get eight tonight."
(1) Ottawa vs (4) Buffalo Buffalo is a good team, a very good team, but they play the same fast gunning style as Ottawa, and Ottawa dominates teams that try to skate with them. Dominates. Buffalo doesn't have the D to keep up. If you like odd-man rushes, this'll be the series to watch. So unless Lindy Ruff manages to get some sort of great containment system in place, this series is going to be a quick Ottawa in 5. (2) Carolina vs (3) New Jersey WTF is New Jersey's problem? Lose, already! New Jersey in 7. (5) San Jose vs (8) Edmonton It'll be closer than people think, but I think San Jose's scoring depth will be able to overwhelm Edmonton. San Jose in 6. (6) Anaheim vs (7) Colorado Colorado has wily veterans and streaky goaltending. Anaheim has Jeff Friesen. No contest. Anaheim in 5.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 11:12 PM on May 04

Lawn Guylanders pronoce it "joisey," and that's good enough for me.

posted by chicobangs at 02:18 AM on May 05

Buffalo > Ottawa (6) New Jersey > Carolina (4) Edmonton > San Jose (6) Anaheim > Colorado (5) So I have a sweep, and Edmonton. What else you got for me, SpoFi?

posted by qbert72 at 07:53 AM on May 05

qbert, you really think the devils are gonna sweep or is it just wishful thinking that you're going to get to see the clincher next saturday?

posted by goddam at 08:47 AM on May 05

I think it's the most likely series for a sweep, yes. And I need to be contrarian if I'm to go up in the standings.

posted by qbert72 at 09:06 AM on May 05

Yeesh, what a whiney prick. I'm sorry guys 'n gals. Pantheon, could you please delete my bitching? I need to spend my day paying attention to something real. Again, I'm sorry.

posted by NoMich at 10:21 AM on May 05

NoMich, no apologies necessary. I totally see where you're coming from.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 11:21 AM on May 05

No way - keep the bitching! NoMich, figures and jealous Canadians aside - you're getting hosed, dude. That's total bullshit; jacking prices mid-playoff is tres Leafs of them.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 11:38 AM on May 05

So, NoMich, did you suggest that if you don't pony up for the hiked price playoff tickets that you lose your claim on your season's tickets next year? Though I can see some logic in that it would sure suck to be in that position. So people in Jersey don't say Joisey. May I can also point out never having met a Canadian that says "aboot". The pronounciation might be somehow different than the typical American way to say about, but it certainly ain't the oo sound in my experience, despite the stereotype.

posted by gspm at 11:38 AM on May 05

You Canadians don't have beedy little eyes and floppy heads do you?

posted by HATER 187 at 11:46 AM on May 05

This guy is the one I remember saying "aboot". Isn't he Irish or something?

posted by njsk8r20 at 11:51 AM on May 05

EAST (1) Ottawa vs. (4) Buffalo Ottawa is my favorite for the Cup now. Miller is going to falter under the Sens' offensive juggernaut (man I always wanted to use that in a sentence!). Ottawa in 6.

(2) Carolina vs. (3) New Jersey This should be a great series. Carolina is not going to be able to solve Brodeur in time to save
their asses. Devils in 7.

WEST (5) San Jose vs. (8) Edmonton Damn you, Edomonton! Damn you to hell!!! San Jose in 6.

(6) Anaheim vs. (7) Colorado Theodore will choke under the pressure and get replaced, but it will be too late. Anaheim in 5.

posted by wingnut4life at 12:16 PM on May 05

My picks -- East Ottawa in 7 New Jersey in 6 West San Jose in 6 Colorado in 6.

posted by holden at 12:18 PM on May 05

Wingnut I must admit that even if the Wings had beaten Edmonton in six games I think they may have ended up losing to San Jose.

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 12:20 PM on May 05

Et tu, YYM?

posted by wingnut4life at 12:24 PM on May 05

May I can also point out never having met a Canadian that says "aboot". The pronounciation might be somehow different than the typical American way to say about, but it certainly ain't the oo sound in my experience, despite the stereotype. Correct. The pronounciation is like "a boat", not "a boot".

posted by Succa at 12:29 PM on May 05

It may be spelled "about", but it's pronounced "throatwarbler mangrove".

posted by DrJohnEvans at 12:51 PM on May 05

It's all Canadian to me...

posted by wingnut4life at 12:58 PM on May 05

Sincerely, Mr. Luxuryyacht.

posted by yerfatma at 01:04 PM on May 05

West San Jose in 6 Anaheim in 6 East Ottawa in 5 New Jersey in 6

posted by billsaysthis at 03:20 PM on May 05

West San Jose in 7 Anahiem in 7 East Sabres in 7 Devils in 5

posted by skydivedad at 04:24 PM on May 05

Holy shit. 3:20 in and it's 2-1 Ottawa already?

posted by chicobangs at 06:18 PM on May 05

Yeah, wtf? I started watching the game 5 minutes in, thinking I haven't missed anything -- and there already were 3 goals. This is going to be a fun series.

posted by mkn at 06:23 PM on May 05

This is very fun to watch. Is campfire still working?

posted by Samsonov14 at 07:32 PM on May 05


posted by chicobangs at 07:50 PM on May 05

must bookmark campfire. had to google it to find it again.

posted by gspm at 08:58 PM on May 05

Okay, here's what I'm thinking: Ottawa's defense looked crappy. Emery looked crappy. Normally no problem; they've coming off a long rest and there's obviously a lot of rust. Hopefully Murray works them hard at practice this weekend to get rid of it. However: Emery is a notoriously streaky goaltender, and there is every reason to believe that he won't be able to shake off the rust. So we have two possiblities here:

  1. Ottawa and Emery regain their footing and win 4 straight to take the series in 5.
  2. Emery collapses and Ottawa gets swept.
Sweep or Ottawa in five. There is no middle ground.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 09:17 PM on May 05

Oh lord. You could not conceive of a worse ending to a game than that. Emery needs to be better, but to be fair, I thought most of the goals were the fault of bad defensive play by the forwards. What happened to Ottawa's vaunted two-way game? Two shorthanded two-on-one goals? Cripes. I could shit. I really could.

posted by Succa at 09:26 PM on May 05

Truly an amazingly entertaining game. Goals here, goals there! Maybe you're saying: "Where was the defense?" Know what? Shut your talkhole, stupid! Who cares! That was tons of fun! As a fan of neither team, I enjoyed watching every goal. This game should be the poster child for the "new NHL". You know, if the game was like a child, I mean. And if it was a child, I think it would be The Child Inside all of Us. USA! USA! USA! Potvin Sucks! Man, I need another drink.

posted by Samsonov14 at 09:59 PM on May 05

That game was awesome. I saw the first period, missed all of the second save for the goal to make it 4-4. Missed the goal to put Ottawa up 5-4, was hoping for the tying goal so that I could enjoy some OT, Buffalo got it late! but then Ottawa scored to go up (Smolinski looking soooo smug)! BUT THEN Buffalo scored to tie it at 6. I was thrilled. OT was there for me to watch! but I was out of the room on spofi campfire when the period started and missed the goal. hockey gods! why do you torment me!

posted by gspm at 10:09 PM on May 05

Remember when I said the over/under was about 7 goals a game? I really meant 7 goals a game per team. That last minute and a half may have been the craziest thing I've seen since Calgary scored 3 goals in the final minute to beat the Quebec Nordiques (in a regular season game) back in late 80s/early 90s.

posted by grum@work at 11:15 PM on May 05

What a crazy game tonight in Ottawa (Defense, what's that?). And Bryzgalov gets his second straight shutout for Anaheim (Giguere who?). For those of you in the confidence pool, here is the updated leaderboard.

posted by njsk8r20 at 11:50 PM on May 05

If some kind soul would point me in the direction of Campfire I would appriciate it. Lost my way and cant get back. Thanks

posted by Folkways at 03:08 PM on May 07

posted by NoMich at 03:48 PM on May 07

NoMich, this link is especially for you and all Canes fans.

posted by garfield at 08:45 AM on May 10

mkn: I just looked at the leaderboard, and I noticed that my picks are not what they are supposed to be. I picked SJ, Col, NJ, Buff, but the leaderboard shows me with different selections.

posted by grum@work at 09:53 AM on May 10

I noticed that the leaderboard indicates that I picked NJ over Edmonton.

posted by garfield at 10:17 AM on May 10

I noticed that the leaderboard shows how much of an idiot I am...

posted by wingnut4life at 12:19 PM on May 10

Fuck it. I became a hockey fan in 2001 after a lifetime of indifference. If my team's going to be as indifferent as I was before hockey, I'm no longer a fan. In brighter news, Lyle Overbay just hit a first-inning grand slam against the A's!

posted by DrJohnEvans at 06:36 PM on May 10

Jesus God. This is painful.

posted by Succa at 06:52 PM on May 10

I think I need to get into basketball, at least the Nets have won a game in the second round.

posted by njsk8r20 at 08:46 PM on May 10

DJE, are you in a large minority up in Canada when it comes to your sports preference (baseball over hockey) and do the Blue Jays have wide spread popularity outside of Ontario or is the rest of Canada indifferent towards baseball? One more question an old high school chum of mine is direcotr of league operations for MLL and he told me lacrosse is the real Canadian national sport, is this true?

posted by HATER 187 at 07:39 AM on May 11

Succa - I feel you, homie. I (despite my Leafs tried and true allegiance) have really enjoyed the Sens this year and love the brand of hockey they play. I cannot believe I found myself cheering for them yesterday when Spezza scored with a miunte left and I cannot believe how bummed I am that they lost. So I think there's the culprit. The Leaf fan cheering for the Sens throws the universe out of whack and Buffalo wins. Sorry. Hater - lacrosse was the official national sport of Canada for most of it's history (learned it from them injuns), but I think now today we recognize two national sports. And the Blue Jays have a good following throughout many parts of Canada (mostly the East because of time zones) and the fans are just as hardcore, loyal and knowledgable as any. DJE is very much a minority for liking baseball better than hockey. Baseball is my #2 (but was my #1 as a kid).

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:11 AM on May 11

I'm a minority in my country because I like hockey more than baseball and football put together.

posted by HATER 187 at 08:45 AM on May 11

Cheers, Weedy. This is probably the last year you'll see the Sens in their current form (it's the 94 Expos all over again! Whee!). I'm the only person that thinks the problem is behind the bench. Murray is not the right guy for this squad. But it won't matter, since Chara, Havlat, and one of Heatley, Spezza, or Alfredsson, will be gone next year. Muckler may go after a goalie, but I doubt they'll get anyone who is measurably better than Emery.

posted by Succa at 09:26 AM on May 11

I'm a minority in my country because I like hockey more than baseball and football put together. Congratulations! You're honorary Canadian package is in the mail. It contains an orange road hockey ball, a Todd Gill hockey card from 1989, 350ml of the finest Quebec maple syrup (and an empirical to metric conversion chart), a coupon for a free double-double from Tim Horton's (with roll-up the rim), a Trailer Park Boys DVD, The Tragically Hip greatest hits collection and 648 beers (assorted Molson, Labatt and others). Also - one pack of DuMaurier's. Smokes - let's go.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 10:33 AM on May 11

You had me up to the Tragically Hip CD. The beers almost got me back on track. I suppose, however, I could always use the CD as coaster. Back in the mid-'90s, I seriously considered moving to Canada. I did some research and I concluded that they wouldn't take my only two years of college having ass, so I gave up on that notion. Also, at the time, I was a merely a [St]inko's employee.

posted by NoMich at 10:47 AM on May 11

I do own every Rush LP, have an autographed copy of Cerecus #1, have seen every episode of You Can't Do That On Televison (even the shitty ones after Moose left) I drink Molsen XXX and piss out coors light and I play roller hockey with a puck, not no silly ball, seriously what cool sports use a ball.

posted by HATER 187 at 10:53 AM on May 11

Road hockey is a completely different sport. It requires a orange ball, pillow and deeply bruised shins. You had me up to the Tragically Hip CD. The beers almost got me back on track. I suppose, however, I could always use the CD as coaster. Look, the package has the CD in it, I don't make the rules, the Hip is Canadian, they sing about hockey and flowers and winter and shit. It is what it is. Actually, I dig the Hip and hate the Molsons. So, there's that.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 10:56 AM on May 11

My guilty Canadian pleasure BNL. What is so maybe about Katie anyway.

posted by HATER 187 at 11:09 AM on May 11

You had me up to the Tragically Hip CD. The beers almost got me back on track. I suppose, however,I could always use the CD as coaster. Wars have started for lesser comments...

posted by grum@work at 11:23 AM on May 11

Actually down here in the States, we use the red ball. The orange ball is for cold weather, or was that the green one? Shit, I forget. Man its been way too long since I've played.

posted by njsk8r20 at 11:28 AM on May 11

We need a spofi roller hockey game, although it probably break down to a lot of drinking and illicit narcotics use. I know I can't lace up the skates without a nice pull off of 'ol Johnny Wetknuckles.

posted by HATER 187 at 11:52 AM on May 11

It seems that there should be a way to replace the Tragically Hip CD with Hank Snow's 1950s discography. That would go along with the beer so much better. Probably the Trailer Park Boys DVD as well. DOA would be a good replacement too.

posted by NoMich at 12:07 PM on May 11

OK, I found my balls. The green one glows in the dark.

posted by njsk8r20 at 06:28 PM on May 11

The original "no bounce" hockey ball No bounce my ass. These balls get hard as a rock in winter temperature. They bounce like any other ball and sting like hell when a slapper catches you on the thigh.

posted by qbert72 at 07:18 AM on May 12

Sorry, HATER, I had to take a little time off this thread as I contemplated my possible hockey retirement. Although Weedy's done a great job of answering for me. I am indeed in a minority, largely due to growing up in Windsor, ON when the Leafs/Wings sucked and the Tigers/Jays were hot and in the pennant races every year. I was the only Jays fan on my block, preparing me well for the life of a Sens fan in Toronto. The Blue Jays definitely have strong pockets of support across the country, but it's not a national fixation or anything. Succa: I'm with you on Murray. He's a decent enough coach, I guess, but he's not right for this team at all. These guys always seem to do a great job of tuning the coach out and playing only when they want to, not when they need to. What they need is a strict taskmaster like Brent Sutter.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 09:59 AM on May 12

it's the 94 Expos all over again! Whee! Don't you dare compare this year's Senators to the '94 Expos. The Expos didn't even get a chance to choke in the postseason.

posted by qbert72 at 10:03 AM on May 12

I just hope you stick with us DJE. If anyone feels your pain when it comes to their suck ass choke artist team its me. As far as abandoning a sport all together I dropped the NBA for three years after the Reggie Miller Incident. My grandmother wouldn't let me watch B-ball after all the damage I caused in the house.

posted by HATER 187 at 10:15 AM on May 12

...growing up in Windsor, ON when the Leafs/Wings sucked and the Tigers/Jays were hot and in the pennant races every year. I was the only Jays fan on my block, preparing me well for the life of a Sens fan in Toronto. So, I'm guessing that 1987 was not a good year to be a Blue Jays fans right across the river from Detroit. Aside: Windsor, hey? Whenever there was a band to see in Detroit, my buddies and I would get there early and go to Windsor to pick up cases of Molson Brador. I liked Windsor.

posted by NoMich at 10:16 AM on May 12

Brador, la plus que bière.

posted by qbert72 at 10:54 AM on May 12

That must be NoMich over on the left, there.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 11:07 AM on May 12

Man, I wish! That guy is hawt!

posted by NoMich at 12:56 PM on May 12 garfield has taken the lead, with 9 out of 11 correct picks!

posted by mkn at 11:58 AM on May 15


posted by garfield at 04:42 PM on May 15

Oh man...if Edmonton wins the series, I'll be trailing the fucking monkey. And she didn't even pick the number of games for each series! *sob*

posted by grum@work at 05:16 PM on May 15

The fact that I'm beating all but one of the "experts" shows how much they know.

posted by billsaysthis at 03:56 PM on May 16

I may actually go 0-fer in this round. w00t?

posted by Samsonov14 at 04:25 PM on May 16

atleast you get to move to Austin.

posted by garfield at 04:55 PM on May 16

Where's round 3's thread? I'm taking Edmonton and Carolina, both in 6.

posted by commander cody at 01:58 PM on May 19

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