October 26, 2005

Kobe-Phil pairing won't amount to much: Superstar, coach back together, but Lakers simply aren't very good.

posted by justgary to basketball at 04:15 AM - 21 comments

Phil would not have returned if there were not a plan in place to build a championship caliber team.

posted by mayerkyl at 07:18 AM on October 26

Phil was bored. And the Lakers have no front court worth mentioning.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 09:17 AM on October 26

Phil Jackson = #1 coach Kobe Bryant = #1 player #1 coach + #1player = #1team

posted by DarthKobe at 10:10 AM on October 26

Simplistic reasoning + overblown expectations = pissed off fans.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 10:19 AM on October 26


posted by yerfatma at 10:43 AM on October 26

Don't blame Jackson for returning to LA. His other choice was the Knicks.

posted by drevl at 10:48 AM on October 26

Kobe+ Phil still=1 player, 1 coach. Basketball team= 12 players, x coaches Lakers= grossly outnumbered if you do not count the people sleeping on the court

posted by darkmusashi at 11:09 AM on October 26

Kobe + Phil still equals team without Shaq

posted by tru_spartan at 11:19 AM on October 26

enough silly equations. I have watched the games I can get this preseason, and the Lakers actually look pretty good (5-2). They will get into the playoffs this year, and that is all anyone is reasonably expecting. Kobe is good enough that, in the triangle, he can cause enough problems to beat the teams they need to beat (read: everyone out of 8th place) Someone said it, though: Phil would not be back if he didn't think they could win. Saying he is "bored" is stupid. Saying he needed the money is stupid. Saying he didn;t have his choice of about 15 other teams is stupid. There you have it.

posted by jpageua at 12:01 PM on October 26

There he goes again with that self-link...

posted by lil_brown_bat at 12:07 PM on October 26

Ssshhhh: I think "There you have it" means "[THIS THREAD IS CLOSED TO NEW COMMENTS]". We're done here people. See you at the Thread 5354 Wrap Party. I'm brining my Swedish Meatballs. The Nelson Twins.

posted by yerfatma at 12:19 PM on October 26

Saying (Phil) is "bored" is stupid. Saying he needed the money is stupid. Saying he didn;t have his choice of about 15 other teams is stupid. There you have it. Thank God there's somebody around who isn't afraid to call us all stupid when we're, well, too stupid to realize it. Go ahead and buy those Lakers postseason tickets now, Joshua, with all the proceeds from your "I made it up on AOL" website. Oh, and bragging about the fact that you're no longer sleeping on a futon? Kind of sad. There you have it.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 12:26 PM on October 26

There you have it: the new black.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 12:33 PM on October 26

well, if MSNBC says it, why even play the season? Apparently their crack sports department just heard about something that happened what, 7 months ago. Of course the Lakers arent very good, maybe 7th or 8th seed, but I think the Kobe bashing has gone a little far. I cant speak for him as a person as I have never met him. But he has become the target of choice for hack sportswriters. They would like to forget he led a team to a 3-peat while still in his early 20s- and yes he LED the team. I watched almost every Lakers game in those years. Would they have won without Shaq? Very doubtful. But Kobe had the ball in his hands when the games were on the line and he came through every time. To try to rewrite history and pretend that never happened is silly.

posted by drjimmy11 at 01:17 PM on October 26

plus lesser but still important cogs like Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, Brian Shaw, Horace Grant, Ron Harper and others. Also this guy really did his homework before he wrote the article. Maybe if he Robert Horry had ever made any big shots, he might've made your list? I mean, he's no Brian Shaw, but still...

posted by drjimmy11 at 01:26 PM on October 26

1 coach (ok GREAT coach) PLUS 1 great player MINUS Shaq DIVIDED BY Sterns new dress code = Miami Heat winning it all....(even though I am a Celtics fan) now THAT should be it

posted by sinisterfoot at 02:11 PM on October 26

SportsFilter: There you have it.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 02:40 PM on October 26

"Kobe-Phil pairing won't amount to much" Duh! Guys can't procreate. Lakers squeak into the playoffs as 7th or 8th seed and have their asses handed to them in the first round.

posted by lilnemo at 05:26 PM on October 26

SportsFilter: Guys can't procreate. D'oh!

posted by billsaysthis at 05:30 PM on October 26

The X factor this season will be Odom. I'm really curious what the Zen Master will do to get him involved. He'll be more of a small forward this year playing next to Kwame, so it's going to be even harder for him to get the ball.

posted by dusted at 10:29 PM on October 26

As a Rhode Island native, let me tell you now: if Lamar Odom is your "X factor", the equation solves to 0.

posted by yerfatma at 06:14 AM on October 27

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