December 02, 2004

At least they're going to sit down:: The NHLPA is apparently putting together some kind of proposal to bring to the owners in an attempt to save the season.

I'm sure the timing of this (the owner's meetings in New York begin this weekend) is largely posturing, but is there any chance at all the Player's Association might shame the owners into at least paying lip service to moving the talks forward?

Is there any reason for optimism? At all? Please?



posted by chicobangs to hockey at 05:08 PM - 16 comments

No.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 05:19 PM on December 02, 2004

The sun came up today. How's that?

posted by yerfatma at 05:22 PM on December 02, 2004

with all the warm and fuzzies floating around, don't expect a season before early March....how's that for optimism?

posted by garfield at 05:32 PM on December 02, 2004

Oh well. I tried.

posted by chicobangs at 05:37 PM on December 02, 2004

Did I mention I hate Gary Bettman? No? Can I shout it from rooftops? Sure, but why would I want to...its all cold and shit...and he already knows what a cumstain he is...no need to rub it in....

posted by garfield at 06:05 PM on December 02, 2004

Never rub the cumstains in, garfy.

posted by Ufez Jones at 06:06 PM on December 02, 2004

Especially on velvet.

posted by yerfatma at 06:14 PM on December 02, 2004

Unless it's Gary Bettman's velvet blazer.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 06:25 PM on December 02, 2004

In that case, why waste any pearls from the necklace?

posted by yerfatma at 06:57 PM on December 02, 2004

yerfatma is killing me! First the Jeremy Giambi/Hunter reference that I shouldn't have gotten, but did, and then this. HUZZAH!

posted by geekyguy at 10:43 PM on December 02, 2004

The real question is just how many people really care.

posted by Bag Man at 11:24 PM on December 02, 2004

Is that the real question? Good thing you said something.

posted by yerfatma at 07:11 AM on December 03, 2004

Former NHLer Nick Kypreos was on The Fan in Toronto yesterday talking about this meeting, and he said he felt there would be some movement by the players, although the potential agreement would still not have anything to do with a cap. I think unless the players capitulate, we're out of a season this year. The owners can certainly afford to wait it out, and they need someone to help protect them from themselves.

posted by wfrazerjr at 08:33 AM on December 03, 2004

i guess there is reason for optimism if:

  • the NHL doesn't reject the approach out of hand for not including a salary cap
  • another meeting happens the next day
  • there really is a Santa Claus
  • posted by gspm at 09:10 AM on December 03, 2004

    I can't stand Nick Kypreos. He's one of the worst players-turned-broadcasters on the air. It may be partially Sportsnet's fault for trying to make him act mean and aggressive, but he just hasn't shaken the player-on-camera mentality. He still looks like all he wants to say is "we gotta get the puck to the net". Horribly awkward. Not that it has anything to do with the subject at hand, but since there's no hockey, we might as well discuss hockey commentators, ya know? Now, Kelly Hrudey. There's a guy who made the transition damnably well.

    posted by DrJohnEvans at 12:33 PM on December 03, 2004

    No love for the Kypper? I know he's not great, but he's trying so hard - he's practically sweating and just one more quip away from screaming 'Please like me!' right into the camera. I really hope he improves, he seems to really want it. Kelley Hrudey is good. I totally agree - why did HNIC drop him? I think I heard that they did. No talk about the NHL - they don't deserve the nerve endings.

    posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 09:34 PM on December 05, 2004

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