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June 13, 2012
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One of the Judges who scored the Bradley-Pacquiao fight 115-113 in favour of Bradley, Duane Ford, has come out with this statement :
"I thought Bradley gave Pacquiao a boxing lesson. I thought a lot of the rounds were close. Pacquiao missed a lot of punches and I thought he was throwing wildly."
Here are the CompuBox stats from the fight showing Bradley landing 159/839 punches and Pacquiao 253/751.
Pacquiao landed 94 more punches, despite throwing 88 less.
Ford continued:
"This wasn't an American Idol contest. If I judge for the people, I shouldn't be a judge."
Well, I agree with one part of your statement, Duane.
posted by Mr Bismarck at 09:08 AM on June 13, 2012
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posted by NoMich at 10:46 AM on June 13, 2012
Bryce Harper responds to a Toronto reporter's query "That's a clown question, bro'" regarding post-game refreshments
posted by tommybiden at 11:24 AM on June 13, 2012
The kid probably doesn't know about the lowered age restriction, so it comes across initially as some sort of "trap". Even after it's quickly explained to him, the time has passed (especially with the PR guy right there trying to shoot it down).
"That's a clown question, bro." is now my go-to response for asking something dumb at work.
posted by grum@work at 12:28 PM on June 13, 2012
That and Harper is a Mormon, so it's a little bit ignorant.
If you read that as "Moron", take a look in the mirror.
posted by yerfatma at 12:36 PM on June 13, 2012
posted by yerfatma at 12:42 PM on June 13, 2012
That and Harper is a Mormon, so it's a little bit ignorant.
He is?! AHAHAHAHAH! Okay, that makes the reporter even more of a douche.
posted by grum@work at 01:02 PM on June 13, 2012
that makes the reporter even more of a douche.
I thought it was OK for Mormons to drink Canadian beer until they were 21. I read that somewhere on a blog.
posted by tahoemoj at 02:14 PM on June 13, 2012
That and Harper is a Mormon, so it's a little bit ignorant.
My brain wanted so badly to read that as moron instead of Mormon.
posted by tron7 at 02:33 PM on June 13, 2012
I looks like the UN World Health Organization should take a look at the spread of a bug at Euro 2012. It seems that Cristiano Ronaldo has now been diagnosed with fernandotorreschokus.
They need to start cleaning some areas with bleach, or it's going to spread to even more players and teams.
posted by grum@work at 03:13 PM on June 13, 2012
David Stern to Jim Rome, "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
posted by apoch at 03:33 PM on June 13, 2012
CompuBox isn't the be-all end-all of stats. It's two guys who take tallies of when they think someone hits someone else. I have seen numerous times where CompuBox counts a lot of hits that were a) misses, b) not clean hits, or c) both/other.
I'm not saying Bradley won or not, I'm just saying CompuBox is a nice tool and that's it.
posted by Bonkers at 03:40 PM on June 13, 2012
or it's going to spread to even more players and teams.
Sounds a lot like Dutch No Helm Disease. Killing them today, though Bert deserves it for playing Van Bommel and De Jong in the middle against a decent team.
posted by yerfatma at 03:54 PM on June 13, 2012
CompuBox isn't the be-all end-all of stats....
The margin of victory on the judges' scorecards was 2 points out of 228 total -- less than 1 percent.
The margin of "victory" on CompuBox was 94 punches out of 412 (landed) -- more than 22 percent. Take away jabs and it was more than 27 percent.
Statistically speaking, the chance that the judges were right (as to who won the fight) and the CompuBox guys were wrong (as to who landed more punches) is infinitesimal no matter what distribution you care to use. And when one boxer landed that many more punches, it's difficult to accept the idea that the other boxer was better without at least a knockdown somewhere to show that his punches were categorically better.
posted by Etrigan at 04:00 PM on June 13, 2012
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posted by tommybiden at 04:13 PM on June 13, 2012
The Dutch are fortunate that if more than two teams end in a tie after the group stage then what counts in the tie breaker is the goal difference of matches between those teams. Meaning they can afford to ship goals here and provided they beat Portugal by more than one goal and the Danes lose, they can still go through.
CompuBox isn't the be-all end-all of stats.
Agreed and I'm not trying to put it forward as such - any tool that gives 108 powershots to Bradley is clearly broken.
If the totals were even close then I wouldn't bother, but when we're talking almost a hundred punches in both directions, (~100 more landed, ~100 less thrown), then you've probably moved out of the area we can put down to the weakness of the tool.
It's also not offered in isolation, but rather to add weight to that other unreliable tool - the human eyes. Anyone* who watched it knows the scoring was off.
*Judges excepted.
posted by Mr Bismarck at 04:17 PM on June 13, 2012
I'm really rooting for the Dutch today just because I'd love to see each team in the group with one win going into the last day, especially in the Group of Death. Still looks unlikely. If they don't qualify, Bert van Marwijk should plan a holiday with Raymond Domenech to discuss techniques for making a sow's ear out of a silk purse.
posted by yerfatma at 04:22 PM on June 13, 2012
My brain wanted so badly to read that as moron instead of Mormon.
Ninja edit!
posted by yerfatma at 04:24 PM on June 13, 2012
Interesting stuff on the BBC sport website for the Euros... they have an overhead "tactical" view down from somewhere near the top of the stadium and they pair it with their radio commentary, making an "All-22" for the spherical version of football.
posted by Mr Bismarck at 04:39 PM on June 13, 2012
David Stern to Jim Rome, "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
The most ridiculous catfight since Madonna vs. Lady Gaga.
posted by NerfballPro at 05:50 PM on June 13, 2012
I'd say Rome got what he wanted. I don't know what else you would expect asking a league commissioner if his league is fixed.
posted by tron7 at 02:08 AM on June 14, 2012
I love this:
"I have to go back tomorrow and watch film and see how I can get better," Durant said.
I almost feel sorry for Lebron. Despite his great game, the only graphic that is shown is the 4th quarter performance comparison with Durant.