June 14, 2004

What would you think about using a visual editor instead of typing text/HTML in the entry forms?

posted by kirkaracha to editorial policy at 01:08 PM - 35 comments

Would it work on mozilla/linux?

posted by tieguy at 01:33 PM on June 14, 2004

what's this mean? its monday, i got no sleep, i've got no caffeine and also, i am stupid.

posted by jerseygirl at 01:37 PM on June 14, 2004

I'm in love with a Jersey Girl. No, hang on I mean I'm with Jersey Girl. Noooo. I mean I agree with her. Can you explain what you're suggesting to us dullards kirk?

posted by squealy at 01:44 PM on June 14, 2004

I like typing text/html. But I'm pretty old-school.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 02:02 PM on June 14, 2004

would it be mac friendly?

posted by goddam at 02:04 PM on June 14, 2004

I agree with the good Dr. I'm used to the old-school html coding. would it be mac friendly? I'm sure it would be, but you'll have to wait 6 to 8 months for it to be released and it won't look as good. /old PC gaming joke

posted by grum@work at 02:36 PM on June 14, 2004

They look like this. It's basically a Microsoft Word-type toolbar. This one (Editize) is Java; there are also some done in Flash, and a bunch that only work in Internet Explorer on Windows. If we used one I'd want it to be cross-browser/cross-platform.

posted by kirkaracha at 03:51 PM on June 14, 2004

I don't like them, but I'm a big dork who believes that hand-coded HTML builds character.

posted by rcade at 04:08 PM on June 14, 2004

I'll throw my pork-pie hat in with the surly curmudgeons and say that, hell no, we don't need no fancy-schmancy visual editorializers. Back in the old days, we entered and styled our entries letter by letter, dagnabbit.

posted by worldcup2002 at 04:15 PM on June 14, 2004

I'll throw my pork-pie hat in with the surly curmudgeons and say that, hell no, we don't need no fancy-schmancy visual editorializers. Back in the old days, we entered and styled our entries letter by letter, and that's how we like it. Dagnabbit.

posted by worldcup2002 at 04:15 PM on June 14, 2004

I don't mind them, but would rather see one with the heavy lifting done server side rather than a bolt-on type client side job. Especially one in Java, you could write off a 200 line rant for/against the yankees/red sox before that fired up in the JVM, probably :)

posted by pivo at 04:16 PM on June 14, 2004

That double-post did nothing to enhance the credibility of my argument. But I chalk that up to advancing age, arthritis and poor eyesight.

posted by worldcup2002 at 04:17 PM on June 14, 2004

I'd say no, only because it would encourage more styling. Other than bold and italic type, the styling takes away from the actual conversation.

posted by dusted at 05:08 PM on June 14, 2004

I like my html, but then I hand-code whole pages from scratch. Keep it the way it is - it could be a bit open to abuse otherwise (ok, so it's open to abuse now from me, but abuse from me is fine).

posted by BigCalm at 05:14 PM on June 14, 2004

that's not bad... maybe with less bells and whistles?

posted by jerseygirl at 06:43 PM on June 14, 2004

hand coding rules your face!

posted by NoMich at 06:44 PM on June 14, 2004

Plus we just can't do without some features.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 07:17 PM on June 14, 2004

But none of you has used an actual HTML tag yet. This is why we need the visual editors, to keep the amateurs from breaking shit ;)

posted by pivo at 07:43 PM on June 14, 2004

I recently implemented one of these into a CMS I built (yes, from scratch-- don't ask why, just know I suffered). It works well, but it presents all sorts of problems with the incoming HTML. The good news was you could disable individual buttons with JavaScript. Otherwise you need to worry about mis-matched tags, half a table, etc.

posted by yerfatma at 08:04 PM on June 14, 2004

I vote we revoke DrJohn's account. All with me say 'aye'.

posted by tieguy at 08:55 PM on June 14, 2004

No way man, scrolling text rules your face!

posted by NoMich at 10:04 PM on June 14, 2004

What's HTML ? ;-) Can't say I'm fussed either way to be honest, so long as we doin't go down the avatars, gifs, signatures etc route.

posted by kWaCkY at 01:14 AM on June 15, 2004

But I chalk that up to advancing age, arthritis and poor eyesight. You forgot to mention the hairy palms. So check this out, you will all be very proud of me. I am going to a Irish pub tomorrow morning at 9 AM to watch Latvia play the Czech Republic, then staying to watch Germany v Holland. Then you can bet I'll have some shit to say about it.

posted by vito90 at 02:00 AM on June 15, 2004

What a bunch of chuffing show offs!

posted by Fat Buddha at 02:58 AM on June 15, 2004

/cheers wildly for vito90 First person to use the blink tag should be banned for life.

posted by BigCalm at 03:15 AM on June 15, 2004

If there is anything we SHOULD have implemented, it's a way to stop people from doing something like this.

posted by grum@work at 07:44 AM on June 15, 2004

I don't see the need for a fancy editor, text is fine with me. BillSaysThis: Vito, I'm jealous!

posted by billsaysthis at 09:26 AM on June 15, 2004

The only legitimate use of the blink tag.

posted by BigCalm at 09:56 AM on June 15, 2004

No visual editor!

posted by worldcup2002 at 12:33 PM on June 15, 2004

No showing off!

posted by Fat Buddha at 12:50 PM on June 15, 2004

Fat Buddha is such a wuss

posted by kWaCkY at 12:51 PM on June 15, 2004

Hmmm, that didn't work Doh!

posted by kWaCkY at 12:56 PM on June 15, 2004

Whoa, FB, that is huge.

posted by worldcup2002 at 01:13 PM on June 15, 2004

A well placed "thats what she said" would be amusing here. But I'm too much of a refined lady to say that.

posted by jerseygirl at 01:14 PM on June 15, 2004

Hahaha Kwacky, preview is your friend.

posted by Fat Buddha at 03:11 PM on June 15, 2004

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