March 26, 2003

Crazy Sportsfilter fantasy baseball rumors, episode 1

posted by djacobs to navel gazing at 11:20 AM - 22 comments

I am in 1st place. Jersey Girl has turned down a trade in which I offered her Pedro! catfish is the george steinbrenner figure of our league.

posted by djacobs at 11:22 AM on March 26

Your trade was some kooky arrangement like Manny and Barry Zito for Pedro and a bag of oranges!

posted by jerseygirl at 11:37 AM on March 26

I have great pitching. I think. I can't believe I didn't get Josh Phelps in the draft, I ranked him 29th on my list, I was sure that was be high enough. Stupid autodraft. I need a catcher. I have Mo. It's going to be a great year.

posted by corpse at 11:43 AM on March 26

jersey - you turned down a bag of oranges??? But, they leave no marks after a beating...I just don't get you people sometimes ;-)

posted by bcb2k2 at 12:22 PM on March 26

Why did I have to be the first pick? I think my team is the weakest out of them all.

posted by jasonspaceman at 02:44 PM on March 26

i didn't expect a-rod to go first pick in the first round.

posted by jerseygirl at 02:52 PM on March 26

ARod is the most obvious choice for first-pick-first-round. Monster hitting numbers in a (traditionally) weak position will do that. He's EASILY the best hitter at shortstop, with Garciappara, Tejada and Jeter well behind him. After that, it gets REAL ugly at the position in the American League (I can't speak for the NL that well). The other two positions with big drop offs are 2B and C. But the numbers being produced by the best players at that position are nothing compared to what ARod does. I had him listed #1, and I had those 4 SS listed in my top 10 (with some pitchers and a catcher and 2B). Outfield, starting pitching, 1B and 3B are the easiest to fill later in the rounds. You might not have the best, but the bell curve of talent allows you to fill those positions with players who might be only a bit worse than the tops at the position. Relief pitching is almost always a crap shoot, especially when dealing with made up numbers like saves. You can predict who will be slotted into the ficticious "closer" role, but an injury or 3 blown saves and you suddenly are getting ZERO points. I generally stick to the best pure pitchers that aren't starters and just punt the saves category (if there is one). The one other bit of strategy I used in making up my auto-draft list was to give preference to multi-positional players. Being able to move a bench guy to many different positions (because of injuries) makes him very valuable.

posted by grum@work at 04:34 PM on March 26

A-rod is clearly the #1 pick, I agree. That "Bag of Oranges" was Bobby Higginson. And I'm not sure the gap between him & Manny is much more than the gap between Zito & Pedro. Pedro is *much* better than everyone, except Randy Johnson and maybe Mussina if he bounces back. I think. I will also send you some real oranges.

posted by djacobs at 09:14 PM on March 26

Yes, Pedro is better than Zito, but Zito is right up there in the top 3 in the AL. Very comfortable rank, if you ask me. However... Manny and Higginson? They played approximately the same amount of games last year (with injuries both of them) and here's how they stacked. Higginson: 119 Games 50 runs 10 HRs 63 RBI .282 avg .762 OPS Manny: 120 Games 84 runs 33 HRs 107 RBI .349 avg 1.097 OPS Manny has had a fantastic spring training, thus far. Higginson isn't bad at all, but all things considered, I'd put my money on Ramirez, really.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:50 PM on March 26

One question...Why is it that we have two first basemen and four outfielders in a 16 team league? Not trying to complain, but i don't see any reasoning behind it...

posted by jmd82 at 07:52 PM on March 27

i agree, jmd82, it's weird. But it's not our show!

posted by djacobs at 10:20 PM on March 27

jerseygirl, I was trading you upside! And Higginson was injured, and will steal. And Pedro is much, much better than everyone except Randy Johnson. Anyway, yes, of course you're right. catfish, can I have mo?

posted by djacobs at 07:43 AM on March 28

higginson and ramirez were both injured. imagine the numbers manny would have put up if he had an entirely healthy season. no harm no foul :) everyone wants to trade for zito, it seems!

posted by jerseygirl at 09:51 AM on March 28

Obviosuly, because he's underrated. Jerseygirl, I'm just giving you an oppurtunity to "Buy Low, Sell High" and have Pedro on your tieam! How can you pass it up?

posted by djacobs at 11:23 AM on March 28

Do people think I am foolish about this stuff, because I am a girl?

posted by jerseygirl at 12:10 PM on March 28

dj I'd kill that trade even if she accepted it, you'll get nothing past the commish. The 4 outfielders, and two first basemen makes life interesting.

posted by jbou at 10:45 PM on March 28

jbou: :) thank you, sir.

posted by jerseygirl at 02:54 PM on March 29

I need a catcher and have outfielders to offer in a multiplayer deal, along with a starter or relief pitcher. I also totally forgot about, but I like my team, except for (dant dant dahhhhhhhhhhhhh) Toby Freaking Hall!

posted by wfrazerjr at 05:43 PM on March 30

Do people think I am foolish about this stuff, because I am a girl? No! Of course not. I was giving you an opportunity to get Pedro Martinez, the best pitcher in the game.

posted by djacobs at 06:55 PM on March 31

I have Ivan Rodriguez and need an outfielder. Make me an offer wfrazerjr.

posted by therev at 11:05 PM on March 31

DJ, give it a rest you're starting to sound like a sleazy used car salesman.

posted by jbou at 01:53 PM on April 01

Getting Pedro Martinez is nice, very nice. Getting jobbed while getting Pedro Martinez is not nice.

posted by wfrazerjr at 05:45 PM on April 01

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