Spot on, THX. Threatening a woman, especially your wife, is awful. But threatening kids is just sub-human, whether they're his kids or not (it sounds like they aren't). If the story has the facts straight, this loser needs to be put away. MGDADDYO, I have to disagree. A thug is a thug, as they say. The streets are full of gang members who've never been coddled and catered to, but have the same mentality nonetheless. Conversely, plenty of athletes who go through "the system" turn out quite respectable. I think you're describing the effect, not the cause. The thugs screw up, because that's what they do, and they'd do the same stuff whether they were playing baseball in college or selling crack in Compton. The "untouchable" status as an athlete might further ingrain this attitude, but the prisons full of career criminals tell me that you don't need to be an athlete to think you're above the law and society.
This guy is not a case of society/sports gone wrong. This guy appears to be an asshole. Also - not a particularly smart one. Threatening phone calls is one thing, but threatening messages? That's called a recording, Elijah. It saves your threat. Oh, and yes, it's admissible. C'mon guys, keep your thinly veiled racist meanderings a little quieter. Brett Maine punches his wife out and I don't recall the reaction being that he's a thug and it's thug culture or some other nonsense.
It doesn't even matter if it is admissible since the missus didn't file a criminal complaint against him. It's worth considering that this is just a strategic move in a messy divorce.
My ex sent me a picture of a clown making balloon animals, should I be scared? Oh yeah, and brownindian, you really should learn how to spell the name of the city across the state from you. It's CINCINNATI, second most populous city in Ohio, the one where bodies of water are never seen abaze. Good joke, though.
It's not about race, Weedy. It's about someone who is having problems with their spouse using threats of violence against children as a manipulation tool. That's terrorism and a gangster mentality.
That's terrorism and a gangster mentality. But would the word "gangster" even be in this thread if the guy was white?
Actually, tahoe, it looks to be a distant 3rd in population. But, not nit-picking you - your comment just made me curious. In fact, as both a Reds and Browns fan (yes, and I'm partial toward canker sores and pink-eye, too), I could only shake my head at brownindian's "joke". At first, I thought Weedy's race-related comment might be out of place. But, on further reflection, not really. He's not saying "lay off the guy" - but think about the application of what you're saying. If you don't think that "thug" and "gangster" don't carry racial connotations - well, I think you're wrong. So, if thug/gangster comments were replaced with "a fool is a fool", then we wouldn't be having this discussion. With the rash of stories like this that have been getting airtime on this site, I don't think it's "too PC" to ask this of folks. On preview - what Crafty said. Here's hoping that Dukes and others get help for these nauseating actions.
I didn't mean gangster as in a street gang member. I meant gangster as in someone who uses fear and intimidation to get what they want.
I didn't mean gangster as in a street gang member. I meant gangster as in someone who uses fear and intimidation to get what they want. Wha-wha-what? A thug is a thug, as they say. The streets are full of gang members who've never been coddled and catered to, but have the same mentality nonetheless. posted by cybermac at 3:18 AM CDT on May 24 Without the contradiction, I might be able to otherwise see your logic, cyber - but even then, in this kind of setting, it's akin to saying "no, when I say 'gay', I mean the old-time definition of 'merry'."
Cybermac, only you can say definitively if the word "gangster" would have flowed so easily from your keyboard if we were talking about Brett Myers, but in a community that maybe isn't familiar with your personal broad definitions of words it's best for your own sake and that of the community that you recognize which ones are racially charged by nature and put those away. Advice to be taken or left as you will. On edit: what The Dude said
Cybermac, only you can say definitively if the word "gangster" would have flowed so easily from your keyboard if we were talking about Brett Myers, but in a community that maybe isn't familiar with your personal broad definitions of words it's best for your own sake and that of the community that you recognize which ones are racially charged by nature and put those away. Advice to be taken or left as you will. I see your point. Sorry for the misunderstanding (and derailing the thread). Honestly, I didn't think of the words I used as racially charged. I think of gangs in criminal terms, not racial ones. Whatever his race, Dukes' words to his wife sounded like the kind of vicious disrespect for human life that I associate with gang violence, having been around it quite a bit in my youth.
How's about "Dukes is a level 1 asshat that needs to be thrown in the pokey" Or they could just let him keep playing for the Rays. Ok, not funny.
I thought the asshat part was pretty funny, that's such a funny word.
it looks to be a distant 3rd in population I believe that's downtown area. When it comes to the greater metropolis, the last I knew (which was 15 years ago, I admit) the greater Cleveland area was around 3 million, greater Cincy and Columbus both near 1.5 million. That, for Cincinnati, includes northern Kentucky and parts of eastern Indiana. Cincinnati's downtown is relatively small compared to it's outlaying population. And yeah, asshat is a funny word.
I know. I think it's Weedy's.
