As a die-hard white sox fan I am very,very happy the Sox won. I started to get worried when they were blowing the lead in the central but they regrouped and put together one of the most dominating postseason runs in history and showed that their record was not a fluke. GO WHITE SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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grum: I will defer to those that had a chance to watch more/slower replays of it. I guess I'm a little twitchy from the previous umpire "irregularities" of the playoffs...
No, he was definitely out, but it was a bang-bang play; I also was saying "He was safe, what the heck?!" at first. There were several unbelievably close plays in the game that the Astros were involved in. In another play, they turned a double play and I could have sworn the runner beat the throw to second. It was only on the 5th or so replay, at the right angle, I saw that the umpire was correct, that the Astro runner had slid with his left leg tucked under itself, so while his
right leg was passing the bag ahead of the throw, he didn't actually touch the base until his left knee hit it- after the throw was there. The ump had the best view, made the right call, but from almost every angle it looked like the runner had beaten the throw. Like I said earlier, this seemed to be a pattern with the Astros: get runners on, and then be a lesson in abject futility as not one fucking hitter could do more than ground out weakly. They couldn't even buy a break; every close play showed, on replay, that the Astros were just a half-step slow, a hair behind... whatever it took to kill the rally or turn something promising into something wasted. This really was a replay of last year's Cardinals performance: a good team that picked the worst possible time to suddenly become unimaginably shitty for a week. And I do mean that- the Astros are a far better team than they looked, and no team even reaches the playoffs if an 0-fer with runners in scoring position is indicative of their actual ability. If you could magically play this series 100 teams over, I suspect these two teams split the series half and half, with most cases going 6 or 7 games.
15yroldkid i am dumbfounded. how long does it usually take for this to sink in?
Speaking as a Red Sox fan, it'll take a couple of days at least. I'm not sure if the White Sox carried the same cross the Cubs and Red Sox fans did (
their drought was as long) but man- when you've waited that long, it's all you can think for days on end. Random moments, you'll just say to yourself, "We won! Fuck yeah!!!" over and over again. Although- no offense intended- if you're only 15, I don't think you've necessarily had the life length to appreciate how rare and special it is for your team to win it all. The last time the Red Sox were in the Series before 2004, I was 11; while sad they lost in such heartbreaking fashion, I didn't really appreciate at the time how sad it would be over the years.
I have waited 87 years for this. Now I can finally sit down. Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
And I do mean that- the Astros are a far better team than they looked, and no team even reaches the playoffs if an 0-fer with runners in scoring position is indicative of their actual ability. If you could magically play this series 100 teams over, I suspect these two teams split the series half and half, with most cases going 6 or 7 games. Oh, I doubt that. While they did get most of the breaks (not all...the hr that shouldn't have been ex. # 1), the better team imho clearly won and would win the majority of times. The astros were shut out a major league-high 17 times and lost (also a major league-high) five 1-0 games. The were 24th out of 30 teams in runs scored. Lack of offense in the ws wasn't just a spell of bad luck. I have waited 87 years for this. Now I can finally sit down. You have aged amazingly well.
Blimey. And they say "soccer" is boring yet this finished 1-0. ;-) I stayed up and watched in the hope that it'd all be settled tonight. Now I just have to cope with a day's work on two hours sleep.
What we learned in the World Series Breaking down the White Sox series' win Astros' offense lays one big goose egg Lidge has no regrets Worst Series Fate of game ball a well-kept secret
Hal and 15: It is a year later, we lost the playoffs, and I still sometimes sit around thinking "we won." It lasts more than a year.
My point is, so savor it for as long as you can. White Sox fans absolutely deserve this.
If you could magically play this series 100 teams over, I suspect these two teams split the series half and half, with most cases going 6 or 7 games. If this were accurate (and I don't think it is though this was a more competitive series than the final tally suggests), the odds of any one occurence resulting in a 4-0 sweep would be very low. Chicago's pitching staff is at least as good as Houston's. Chicago just happened to have hitter too. Full admission: I shut it off when Garner pulled Backe for Jeff Bagwell. Also: the Red Sox won.
Hitters, damnit.
A replay shown after the game proved definitively that Palmeiro was out. Uribe has a cannon, and Palmeiro was around 6-8 inches off the bag when the ball reached the glove.
(duplicate post from earlier thread...) I stand corrected. I checked Game 4 and it was Brennaman and Lyons doing a Fox feed picked up by Sportsnet in Canada, and Buck and McCarver were on the Buffalo Fox channel. I spent a bit of time flipping between the feeds. It soon became obvious that not only are Brennaman and Lyons more interesting, there voices aren't as irritating. I am tired of Buck's voice, and I am sick of McCarver's commentary, so having another option available was sweet. Also, the feed going to Sportsnet always went to commercials later and came back to the game earlier, there was more of the game on Sportsnet than Fox. Then at end of game, for post-game trophy presentation, Brennaman and Lyons turned it over to the main feed with Buck, McCarver, and the equally annoying Jeannie Zelasko.
Re: the last out. In real time when the play happened, it was very close, but Palmeiro looked out, he didn't dispute the call to the umpire. White Sox win!! Congrats to the Chisox, the city, their fans, and all Southside's former greats and legends -- especially George Bell and Dave Stieb. (And if ya think the fan wearing the Barbara Bush Hallowe'en mask for Game 3 was scary, after the final out the camera did a slo-mo close-up, and although scarcely believeable, it was even more disgusting for Game 4. What are Fox and the Astros trying to do...induce fear, loathing, diahorrea and projectile vomiting in their viewers??)
I am so happy that White Sox fans get to experience what we Red Sox fans did last year! Congratulations! I missed it- did the Chicago cops shoot somebody? No- seriously, congrats to the White Sox. They were the better team throughout all the playoffs.
Congratulations White Sox. No doubt the better team won. MY WORDS EXACTLY!!
the equally annoying Jeannie Zelasko. There is NOTHING as annoying as Jeannie Zelasko. She will forever burn in broadcasting hell for being part of the broadcast team that cut off Ernie Harwell at the All-Star game. Grum, you could update your profile. It still says: "It could be worse...I could be a Boston or Chicago baseball fan". Ha! I guess I do. (temporary fix)
Ozzie Guillen postgame interview "The trophy is going to Venezuela, I told Jerry, I told the Commissioner.... I was thinking about my country.... I wish I'd be in Venezuela right now so see how they're celebrating right now. With all due respect to Chicago fans, I know my country they're going crazy....I was in the World Series as a player, as a coach and now as a manager. I think it is because I bring something to Chicago and my country -- my country never have it and Chicago, the waiting there was so long....Jerry Reinsdorf, one of the biggest reasons I wanted to win this thing was for him. I just needed people in Chicago to be so excited about the thing, I just wanted to do an accomplish in my life, is win this thing for Jerry. He deserved that. He worked so hard in baseball, it's unbelievable....Kenny Williams did a tremendous job....I do a lot of bad things with my players, they have to deal with all the questions and answers of Ozzie Guillen. It was a tough season for them, too. They trust me and I trust them. We're here together. We do this for one reason, that's to win or lose together. We want to win together or lose together. And Kenny give me the best."
An incredible performance that I'll never forget - thank you White Sox!
Couldn't happen to a bunch of nicer guys... No stars on that team, the closest they had was Konerko. Everyone of those guys were like your friends or neighbors, the guys at work or at the local bar. I'm really happy for the Ego-less White Sox...
Congrats to the White sox-it was a great season. once in a life time.. They dominated thier division on the strength of a whole bunch of one-run wins... They played a great brand of "team baseball" Hope they enjoy it, as seasons like this are hard to repeat......
With winter-type weather starting to pop up around parts of the country, it's really helped World Series scheduling since the Series became a "Best-of-Four" format.
Read the links, Gary (thanks for the legwork), and the Page 2 guys are fucking tools. Jesus Christ, when you think the timespan your network has existed actually merits the word "era", you've jumped the shark. I still don't understand Garner's thinking in pulling Backe for Bagwell in the seventh. The guy was absolutely dominating and still had the juice, but even if he had been a little tired, Bagwell looked awful through the whole Series. Why dump your starter with the bases empty and two outs for that? Oh, and congrats to the White Sox. Even though I live and die with the Cardinals, the past two seasons I've still been smiling at the last out.
Congrats to the White Sox. Astros...BWWAAAAAHAAAAA I'm glad that it wasn't the Cardinals getting swept again. We don't need to ban the NL Central but we do need to get rid of wild card teams.
Final World Series Pick 'Em Results
Fun, fun, fun Series. Thanks, White Sox and Astros.
By the numbers:Number of hits for the Astros in the final 19 innings of the World Series: 6Hits in the Astros' last 17 at-bats with runners in scoring position: 0Consecutive innings to end the Series in which the Astros did not score: 15White Sox's team ERA during their 11-1 run through the playoffs: 2.55Straight postseason wins for White Sox, tying record set by 2004 Red Sox: 8The White Sox also won 16 of their last 17 games during the regular season, so they went 27-2 over their last 29 games.
Ozzie Guillen knows how to celebrate.
Is that legal in Texas?
I hope you guys know that's his kid. Funny picture though.
I thought it was the chick from "Boys Don't Cry."
Is that legal in Texas? Only if it's his kid. Wait, I'm thinking of neverland ranch.
The 2005 World Series Championship is the greatest ChiSox moment since Thursday, July 12, 1979 - Old Comiskey Park - Chicago, Illinois. Another great tribute here.
