October 24, 2004

Is anyone else sick of Tim Mcarver?: I found this site list on Boston Media.com. It launched during the ALCS and apparently it's really taking off. I'm sure there are a lot of McCarver haters out there.

posted by MediaWatcher to baseball at 01:48 PM - 18 comments

We finally gave up and muted the TV in favor of the radio last night. It was slightly out of sync (possibly the tivo's fault?) but sooo much better than the Fox guys. Again, I'll second what someone here said early in the ALCS- get one NESN guy and one YES guy (or in this case, whatever the Cards network is called) and one mediator, and let them go to it. It'd be much better than this drek.

posted by tieguy at 02:58 PM on October 24, 2004

I have no opinion but would guess that this site would get a 100% approval rating on SpoFi among SpoFites with an opinion.

posted by billsaysthis at 03:59 PM on October 24, 2004

The clown keeps using the term "Defensive Error". Is there any other kind? are base-running errors given? If so, Manny would have been given one last night.

posted by DirkDiggler at 04:00 PM on October 24, 2004

Quote off the radio (McCarver not involved), "Strikes are the way you get outs." Thanks, Joe.

posted by Joey Michaels at 04:14 PM on October 24, 2004

Yeesh. Alright. Instead of starting a new game thread, can we borrow this one? For cleanliness' sake. You know. (I suspect McCarver will be adding to this thread tonight anyway. Just being realistic.)

posted by chicobangs at 07:12 PM on October 24, 2004

James taylor looks like the head Martian on "Mars Attacks". Sounds good though.

posted by DirkDiggler at 07:19 PM on October 24, 2004

Actually, I liked that version. And he's looked freaky like that for a decade at least. Geezus. Someone's paid up their ASCAP membership. They're using more big-label music than they have to, by half. Steve Earle off the top (right on!), Journey, Patty Smythe... This is "I Love The 80's: The MLB Videos." I'm okay with that.

posted by chicobangs at 07:24 PM on October 24, 2004

Alright. Instead of starting a new game thread, can we borrow this one? For cleanliness' sake. You know. Aw, crap.

posted by grum@work at 07:25 PM on October 24, 2004

Oh, fine, I'll move over...

posted by chicobangs at 07:33 PM on October 24, 2004

I actually like the Fox guys; though it could just be familiarity at this point. I don't actually listen - it's more of a soothing background noise thing, the announcers. ;) I can even tune 'em out if I'm busy, without needing to mute. It also could be that my only other option is listening to the freaks Sportsnet brought in for the WS - ah, no, thank you.

posted by livii at 09:51 PM on October 24, 2004

For all the times I have complained about McCarver and know others have too, I am amazed that FOX (was he on CBS before FOX?) has not found a replacement for him yet. His stock is so low in my book that he is a throw-away line in my rant about the broadcast and presentation of game 6 of the ACLS. Tivo's not causing the delay. For game one I was listening to broadcast radio and broadcast TV -- all analog, so old fashioned -- and the radio was just far enough ahead for me to know when to turn my head to see the shots! on the tele.

posted by Dick Paris at 11:13 PM on October 24, 2004

Er, maybe that was less of a rant about game 6 than other pressing issues. Go Sox!

posted by Dick Paris at 11:19 PM on October 24, 2004

I actually like the Fox guys; though it could just be familiarity at this point. I don't actually listen - it's more of a soothing background noise thing, the announcers. ;) I can even tune 'em out if I'm busy, without needing to mute. Buck obviously is the Guy to build the Team around. While you can get used to McCarver, I would prefer someone like Jim Kaat to be teamed with Joe Buck.. McCarver tends to " kill" topics to prove his point! His is the prototypical "beat the dead horse" broadcaster. The team I really like doing national Brodcasts of Baseball, is John MIller and Joe Morgan. They are funny, believeable and tell it like it is.

posted by daddisamm at 08:03 PM on October 25, 2004

kaat may be a little too anti-sabr for a national audience. hell, he's too anti-sabr for many yankee fans too. i like his insights and stories, but it gets tiresome hearing the same old "back in my day we didn't go by pitch count" spiel.

posted by goddam at 08:30 PM on October 25, 2004

.....but it gets tiresome hearing the same old "back in my day we didn't go by pitch count" spiel.... You know the game has changed from the days that Kaat and many of the anouncers have played. Bert Blylevin, who does games for the Twins and sometimes Fox, often refers to "back in the day", I guess I brought up Kaat because he would be someone different. New blood. Tim McCarver has been around for a long time and his "act" is getting old. I still have comments etched in my brain from when he did the WS involving my Twins. Its hard for alot of us who remember the classic broadcaster from the sixties and seventies. As they pass way, along with them goes a great era of baseball, one that will never be the same again. There arent many of them left and the number is getting smaller all of the time. Each one of us has two or three of these guys we listened too as youngs kids. Herb Carneal, (one that many of you havent heard of) has been doing Twin games since they came to Minnesota in 61. He is only part time these days, doing only a few innings at home games, but hearing him brings back alot of baseball memories from my youth.

posted by daddisamm at 10:32 PM on October 25, 2004

I couldn't agree more with respect to Miller and Morgan. ESPN's Sunday Night baseball is (was? - haven't had ESPN for 5 years or so) a joy to watch or listen to... Miller and Morgan are the best commentary team that I've heard...period. Buck is OK, Brennaman is too. McCarver belabors points and, consistently, gets quotes wrong. Still, I would take the Miller/Morgan combo. over any other these days.

posted by slackerman at 10:45 PM on October 25, 2004

Until the mid-'70s or so, NBC (then the perennial WS network) would have a local announcer for each of the participating teams involved in its coverage. I just watched Game 3 of the '75 Series on ESPN Classic this afternoon. Along with the NBC regulars (Curt Gowdy and Tony Kubek), the Reds' Marty Brennaman was in the booth as a color commentator and did a couple of innings of play-by-play. When that series shifted back to Fenway, Dick Stockton (then the Bosox' regular announcer) worked with Gowdy and Kubek. I would dearly love it if Fox revived this practice.

posted by Motown Mike at 07:52 PM on October 26, 2004

BTW, Miller and Morgan *are* doing this World Series - on ESPN Radio.

posted by Motown Mike at 07:53 PM on October 26, 2004

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