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posted by huddle to general at 06:00 AM - 11 comments
Neil Lennon leaves Celtic.
posted by yerfatma at 09:05 AM on May 22
New $60 million high school stadium in Texas shut down due to to shoddy construction.
Some of the Allen home games will be played in, mmm hmm, Plano.
If your britches is too wet and your concretes is too dry, somebody's gotta make some adjustments.
posted by beaverboard at 09:37 AM on May 22
I think I found out why Lennon quit: he knows Aberdeen is coming for the title next year.
posted by yerfatma at 10:14 AM on May 22
Can someone answer this question for me?
What are the most team trophies/titles a single player can win in football/soccer in a 365 day period?
If they play in the EPL, I think they could win:
Premier League title
UEFA Champions League
UEFA Super Cup
FA Community Shield
FIFA Club World Cup
and then on a national level two of these three:
UEFA/CONCACAF/AFC/CAF/CONMEBOL/OFC Championship + Confederation Cup
Confederation Cup + World Cup
That's a maximum of 9.
Is this right? Are there others, or am I miscalculating the dates of when the tournaments are held?
posted by grum@work at 12:08 PM on May 22
Mark Cuban on stupidity: "I'm the one guy who says don't force the stupid people to be quiet -I want to know who the morons are."
posted by Bonkers at 12:21 PM on May 22
I'll let someone else tackle the club awards, but I can provide some insight on the national ones:
The Confederations Cup is held every 4 years, one year prior to the World Cup, in the country that is hosting the next World Cup. I don't know if your intention is to cherry-pick a precise 365-day period to get the most awards or if you are just looking for one (calendar) year --I will assume the latter since dates change each cycle. In any event, last year's Confederations Cup was decided 6/30/13, and this year's World Cup champion will be crowned 7/13/2014, so it's a moot point on this item either way.
The various confederations' tournaments are not all on the same schedule:
UEFA: Currently played every 4 years on even, non-WC years.
CONCACAF: Currently played every two years on odd years. Could combine with CC.
AFC: Currently played every 4 years, the year after the WC.
CAF: Currently played every two years on odd years. Could combine with CC.
CONMEBOL: Currently played every 4 years, the year after the WC. [*Plus a bonus Centenario Copa America in 2016*]
OFC: Currently played every 4 years on even, non-WC years.
So to summarize, you cannot win the WC and any other confederation's tournament in the same year, and you can only win the CC and your confederation's tournament if you are in CONCACAF or CAF.
Of course, if you want to work in individual awards like Golden Boot or Golden Ball, a particular player could potentially rack up 2-3 prizes per tournament.
posted by bender at 01:25 PM on May 22
I don't know if your intention is to cherry-pick a precise 365-day period to get the most awards or if you are just looking for one (calendar) year --I will assume the latter since dates change each cycle.
I'm a stats guy, so I was looking for the former -- a potential perfect 365-day period. The CC and WC being more than 365 days apart definitely ruins that one.
So based on your list, it would seem that the someone from a CONCACAF nation or CAF nation could pull a "double" with their confederation tournament and the Confederation Cup.
Also, from you list, there seems to be the possibility of the AFC confederation tournament and the WC, or the CONMEBOL confederation tournament and the WC, getting a "double" for a player from one of those nations.
So 9 is still the maximum team trophies that a player could earn in a 365-day period (assuming they play on an EPL team).
I wonder what the maximum won by any one player has been...
posted by grum@work at 04:27 PM on May 22
So to summarize, you cannot win the WC and any other confederation's tournament in the same year
Unless you count a year as a 365 day period, as grum suggests. The next Asian Cup takes place in Australia in January 2015, less than 7 months after the Socceroos lift the World Cup in Brazil.
posted by owlhouse at 09:17 PM on May 22
This, from the Guardian's weekly round up. Steven Taylor gives it to Asmir Begovich. Be careful to watch until the end for the payoff.
Something you won't normally see on the official coverage.
posted by owlhouse at 02:48 AM on May 23
That felt like overkill. But it was funny.
posted by yerfatma at 07:07 AM on May 23
Barcelona won six pots in a year in 2009.
La Liga / Champions League / Copa del Rey / UEFA Super Cup / FIFA World Club Championship / Spain's "Supercup"
It was two seasons, but one year.
A player can be registered for two teams in different countries in the same season, so it's technically possible for someone to win a pre-season title like the Chairty shield, put in enough performances to earn a league title and maybe one cup in one country and then go sweep titles in another to lift the potential trophies into double figures.
posted by Mr Bismarck at 11:49 AM on May 23
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