June 04, 2013

SportsFilter: The Tuesday Huddle:

A place to discuss the sports stories that aren't making news, share links that aren't quite front-page material, and diagram plays on your hand. Remember to count to five Mississippi before commenting in anger.

posted by huddle to general at 06:00 AM - 22 comments

So, about that new Dodger, Yasiel Puig...

posted by grum@work at 08:16 AM on June 04, 2013

RIP Deacon Jones. The ultimate draft day sleeper badass.

Time to dust off the highlights once again here on SpoFi.

(For me, the sacks of Tarkenton have lost none of their special added delight).

posted by beaverboard at 08:24 AM on June 04, 2013

grum, you beat me to it, so as punishment, here's news that even JetBlue pilots are beating on Sid the Kid.

posted by yerfatma at 08:51 AM on June 04, 2013

Nice throw coupled with some real lazy arse base running.

posted by cixelsyd at 09:45 AM on June 04, 2013

Serious question: was Deacon Jones and his version of the Fearsome Foursome the greatest D-line ever? There was Merlin Olsen, Deacon, Rosie Grier and some other dude that I cannot remember the name of right now.

posted by NoMich at 10:35 AM on June 04, 2013

The easy power of Chris Davis.

posted by yerfatma at 11:44 AM on June 04, 2013

Two up and coming stars in the NBA.

posted by Mr Bismarck at 01:16 PM on June 04, 2013

There was more than one "fourth guy" in the Fearsome Foursome. Coy Bacon was one of them.

The other one was...it's probably going to drive me nuts, I have to go look it up...aw, heck, Lamar Lundy. Why can't I remember that?

The Vikings' line with Eller and Page was tremendous. Then there was Richard Dent and his Bears group. Just to name two other units. I always have a hard time making "best ever" decisions.

posted by beaverboard at 01:42 PM on June 04, 2013

Gordon Gee is out the door as President at THE Ohio State University.

If he decides to travel in his retirement, he won't be able to visit The Vatican, Ireland, Poland, Croatia, Slovenia, Alabama, Florida, Louisiana...

posted by beaverboard at 04:31 PM on June 04, 2013

ESPN is reporting the Biogenesis story is going to blow up and MLB will suspend A-Rod, Braun and others.

posted by yerfatma at 07:51 PM on June 04, 2013

If A-Rod is suspended for 100 games, will anyone notice? One of the best things about the Yankees this season is not having that tool around. If this ban could allow the team to void his contract, that would be like a dream come true. Won't happen, but having to pay that douche makes me angry.

posted by dyams at 08:42 PM on June 04, 2013

More details on what players might be suspended.

posted by Joey Michaels at 09:58 PM on June 04, 2013

NHL on TSN Presents: Puck Over Glass Music Video

posted by tommybiden at 10:07 PM on June 04, 2013

One source familiar with the case said the commissioner's office might seek 100-game suspensions for Rodriguez, Braun and other players, the penalty for a second doping offense. The argument, the source said, is the players' connection to Bosch constitutes one offense, and previous statements to MLB officials denying any such connection or the use of PEDs constitute another.

I don't see how any legitimate arbitrator would agree that Braun or ARod would be subject to a 100-game suspension. That logic to use the same connection twice is so full of double-jeopardy holes that it would get thrown out in a hurry.

I think someone might be counting suspensions before they hatch.

posted by grum@work at 10:34 PM on June 04, 2013

I think someone might be counting suspensions before they hatch.

I always figured suspensions were more of a live-birth situation.

posted by tron7 at 09:55 AM on June 05, 2013

Except wasn't Braun's offense overturned, meaning it's not double-jeopardy to serve out the full suspension length based on new/different evidence?

posted by jmd82 at 11:52 AM on June 05, 2013

Is double jeopardy a concept that MLB actually needs to worry about?

posted by LionIndex at 12:05 PM on June 05, 2013

Is double jeopardy a concept that MLB actually needs to worry about?

Exactly. I'm not sure the Bill of Rights was drafted with Major League Baseball in mind.

posted by tahoemoj at 01:06 PM on June 05, 2013

Jack McCoy has filed an injunction in Albany to make the Sloan Corporation give up what they know about Braun's urine. Double jeopardy doesn't attach if you use the "#1 Flush Only" button.

posted by yerfatma at 01:14 PM on June 05, 2013

I don't see how any legitimate arbitrator would agree that Braun or ARod would be subject to a 100-game suspension. That logic to use the same connection twice is so full of double-jeopardy holes that it would get thrown out in a hurry.

I think someone might be counting suspensions before they hatch.

I think MLB's position is probably shoot for the moon, land at 50 and say they're being hard-line on steroids. They want Braun bad and are going to milk this for all its worth - how players can try to hide, but MLB will find them.

They'll get 50 if the evidence is there from any arbitrator, so I don't know if there's a downside to them being hyper-aggressive here.

posted by dfleming at 01:54 PM on June 05, 2013

Is double jeopardy a concept that MLB actually needs to worry about?

It is if you want a reasonable arbitrator to rule in your favour.

MLB: "He committed two offenses. One, he broke the rules. Two, he didn't admit he broke the rules when we asked him. And three...he has three offenses! He broke the rules, he didn't admit he broke the rules, and he continues to deny breaking the rules...and he won't admit he is continuing to break the rules by denying he broke the rules. He has FOUR offenses!"

posted by grum@work at 04:15 PM on June 05, 2013

posted by yerfatma at 04:51 PM on June 05, 2013

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