Jeremy Shockey Traded to Saints: In the second big swap of the day in the NFL, the New Orleans Saints traded a second-round and fifth-round pick to the New York Giants for tight end Jeremy Shockey.
posted by rcade to football at 05:02 PM - 16 comments
...and maybe we won't be the 'Aints again this year.
posted by lsutigers96 at 06:11 PM on July 21
It could be a good move for the Saints, depending on the Shockey they get. If it's the big-mouth, partying, always hurt Shockey....oh, wait a minute. That's the only Shockey there is. As for the Giants, Eli Manning became a better quarterback with Shockey out of the lineup. I remember the reports last year were that he (Manning) was always so worried about keeping Shockey happy and trying to get him the ball all the time that the offense suffered. Teams need a solid, workman-like tight end who can do the little things that make a team better. I really think Kevin Boss will be that type of player.
posted by dyams at 06:39 PM on July 21
In the past, the Saints have done worse things with draft choices than this. If Shockey can help them break the curse of Ditka and play well at Soldier Field, I'll enjoy watching that. Shockey can do what he wants in NO and it won't make the papers, cause there's too much stuff happening there every day that's way heavier than anything he can come up with.
posted by beaverboard at 09:12 PM on July 21
At first I was like "NOOOOO!!!" But then I read dyams comment and I have to agree with it. Eli was better with Shockey out of the lineup. I would say this is a good thing for the Giants. Also, Shockey is getting up there and has been hurt a lot so I don't really see him making a difference in N.O. or he could suprise everyone.
posted by steelergirl at 11:37 PM on July 21
Shockey can do what he wants in NO and it won't make the papers, cause there's too much stuff happening there every day that's way heavier than anything he can come up with. I think the premise may be true, but not the message. I loved Shockey at first (I am a die hard Giant fan) but his antics outweighed his performance. He inhibited Manning and set him back, he was jealous of Plaxico Burress for being the big reciever. His attitude was not the same as Tiki, but with the same outcome. Both were great players, but shitty teammates. The Giants won without him (and Tiki) for a reason. Hello Kevin Boss and and more draft picks! Goodbye Cancer!
posted by MMAFighter/Coach at 12:59 AM on July 22
As much as I HATE to say it I have to agree with MMA. Not because I disagree with what he's saying but because I agree totally! I too am a Life Long Fan of the Giants and when Shockey first hit the scene he brought an intensity rarely seen on the offensive side of the ball. (I'm sure we all remember the 15+ yard run through defenders minus a helmet) But as time went on, as sadly seems to be more the rule than the exception, his head got too big for his production/ or he became more trouble than he was worth. Either way as much as I hated to see him go, I know it's for the best. sniff (I promised myself I wouldn't cry)
posted by emancipated107 at 07:12 AM on July 22
As a Seahawks fan, my knee-jerk reaction was "Why didn't we try to get him? We need a TE more than anyone!" But after reading the article and the sage comments here, I came to my senses. He did more harm, perhaps, than good in NY. And one player, I think, does not change the fortunes of a team in this day and age. I still would like more options at TE for my squad, though.
posted by THX-1138 at 11:50 AM on July 22
I'm not a big Giant fan (living in MA that would be dangerous right now) but I have to admire what they did in the Super Bowl, and I am a big fan of Jerry Reese. In just one cycle, he's gotten awesome results with the draft. Sending him more draft picks to work with is just plain dangerous for the other teams in the NFC East. He'll get his money's worth out of those picks. With Reese picking the talent and the Giants becoming less dominated by personalities, they could be tough for a long time to come.
posted by beaverboard at 11:59 AM on July 22
...and maybe we won't be the 'Aints again this year. If you are counting on Shockey to have even the least minor effect, read the general concenus of the comments above. I have been, and am still, at a loss as to when and why the media (or anyone for that matter) ordained Shockey as a 'difference maker'. Sure, he caught a few touchdowns and important first downs over his career in NY. In a primarily passing league that is your job as a TE. Is he even close to a Newsome or Gonzalez? I think not. I am not saying he was poor, just that NY won't miss him, and NO didn't land any real prize either. Go JS, prove me wrong.
posted by knowsalittle at 12:05 PM on July 22
Speaking as a Patriots fan, I only have two words to rebut what everyone is saying about Shockey: Randy Moss. The change of scenery did wonders for him and I think the same will be true with Shockey. Let's remember 2 things: 1. Shockey's best years were when Payton was the O Coordinator; 2. Brees LOVES throwing to his tight ends. Lest anyone forgets, Colston was actually listed as a tight end his rookie year and look at the out of character numbers Eric Johnson-ERIC JOHNSON- put up last year I think both Shockey an the Saints will be comfortable with one another, and Eli will have that ball monkey off his back as well, so it appears to me to be win-win-win. Don't be surprised to see a Saints-Cowboys NFC Championship. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
posted by crqri at 01:00 PM on July 22
Shockey + New Orleans = bonanza for Times-Picayune sportswriters. On the field AND off. As a Falcons fan (shut up, I know, OK?) I look forward to an exciting season for the NFC South...
posted by BitterOldPunk at 05:45 PM on July 22
What exactly do you me by JS?
posted by lsutigers96 at 04:29 PM on July 23
What exactly do you me by JS? He wants Javier Sandoval, section 17 peanut vendor at the Superdome, to join Spofi and provide incontrovertable evidence that Jeremy Shockey is a top flight tight end.
posted by tahoemoj at 05:08 PM on July 23
tahoe, It's Jesus Sandoval, Javier's brother. Javier has been shunned to section 345 after last seasons hot pretzel incident. We told him not to do that trick, and that the salt would be uncomfortable, but he did it anyway, and the jumbotron caught everything. Poor, poor Javier. He has a limp now.
posted by BoKnows at 06:38 PM on July 23
You guys are all wrong. We're obviously talking about renowned two-sport star Jarrod Saltamacchia. Major League Baseball catcher by day, NFL tight end by night. Moving to New Orleans will certainly save on travel costs, as he won't have to fly from Arlington to New Jersey every other day.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 04:42 AM on July 24
Thanks for clearing that up guys. I could have sworn we were going on about Jessica Simpson and the fact that Jerry Jones is trying to ship her off to New Orleans. I believe he was going to ask the populace and structures to relocate to Texas. That way they could trade one Big Easy for another.
posted by THX-1138 at 11:21 AM on July 24
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