The Rams draw from southwest Illinois and eastern Missouri on the fan map. I don't think there's any doubt they're drawing thousands of fans from Illinois.
When I lived in Peoria for a year, it felt like the border between Bears fandom and Rams fandom. There was a lot more support for St. Louis teams in that area than I expected.
posted by rcade at 07:32 PM on March 23
He'll still be booted off his college baseball team in five minutes. I can't blame him for his reaction to being cut over a tasteless joke on Twitter. I love that Mo'ne Davis asked that he be reinstated.
posted by rcade at 01:04 PM on March 23
I started with this tournament also, but had to miss the final day. It's an interesting sport I still find a bit baffling.
posted by rcade at 10:13 AM on March 22
Even if you believe that locals will spend the same amount of money in their community if a sports franchise leaves, pro sports bring in people from the surrounding region who go to games and spend money in that community.
I spend money in Viera each year for one reason only: I go to Washington Nationals spring training games, make a pilgrimage to the World of Beer, eat at a local restaurant and go to a few stores I like.
The same is true in Orlando now that Orlando City SC is playing.
As for Jacksonville, it is rare in pro sports as a one-team town. So there are some of us who spend money on the Jaguars because we like pro sports and others who come in from other cities in Florida and Georgia. Their money might not be making the trip to Jacksonville without the team.
posted by rcade at 11:40 AM on March 21
I have relatives who live in Arlington, can't afford to attend Cowboys games but are funding the city's JerryWorld loans even as the facility is already turning a profit for him.
There should be a per-ticket tax imposed on fans who attend events at that facility that goes completely towards erasing the public debt incurred on it. The idea that local residents are shouldering any of the costs now is obscene.
posted by rcade at 11:04 AM on March 20
I have a Yahoo bracket in another pool, entered before games began. Is it possible to copy it into this pool?
posted by rcade at 10:39 AM on March 20
college & high school football would replace it for all but the most hard-core fan and other entertainment options (movies, clubs, etc) would replace it for others.
There's no college football to attend here, aside from the Florida/Georgia game, and I'm not an alumnus of any local schools so my interest is extremely casual. As for high school football, it held zero interest for me in high school and has less today. But even if I cared, I'd find it impossible to spend $30 to $300 a ticket, $10 to $30 for parking and $10 to $100 on concessions to see St. Augustine play Nease.
As for movies and clubs, my interest in being entertained is limited to -- wait for it -- things that entertain me. If pro sports go away there will be less things that cross my "is it worth the money?" threshold.
What you're saying sounds to me like the idea that if all the good burger joints close I'll spend the same amount of money at McDonald's.
I might buy a better TV, though, but that's a one-time expense that likely would put bupkiss into the local economy.
posted by rcade at 10:25 AM on March 20
You don't consider what your current Visa balance is at when deciding on future purchases? You've not once thought that a particular month's expenses were high, and you might rein it in for a little bit to compensate?
Those questions are about vague spending decisions. The premise put forward in this discussion is more specific: that a person who would have spent $200 attending a Rams game would have spent $200 anyway in that same time period without the Rams around, so there's zero impact to the local economy in having the team.
"well, there are literally no other options other than Jags tickets that will satisfy me. I guess I will bank that $500."
Why do you find it hard to believe that a person who likes a specific form of entertainment will spend money on that when it is available, and keep the money when it isn't?
There are only four sporting events reasonably close by I'll shell out money to attend: Jaguars games, the Player's Championship and the occasional Orlando City SC game and spring training game in Viera, If any of those go away -- the Nats are leaving Viera after 2016 -- I'm not going to reflexively put the money into comparable entertainment.
It seems irrational to me to conclude that a person who spends $2,000 a year attending local pro sporting events will always spend $2,000 even if the teams he likes move away. I don't see sports as an interchangeable form of entertainment. They're better at separating me from my money than other forms of entertainment have proven to be. I've lived in this area 18 years while almost never attending any other live events that would put money into the local economy.
posted by rcade at 10:11 AM on March 20
When I attend sporting events, I don't usually think about whether I've refrained from other spending to make up for it. I question the premise that the average NFL fan who attends a game -- paying $30 to $300 a ticket, $10 to $30 for parking and $10 to $100 on concessions -- is living paycheck to paycheck. At current costs the working class fan is mostly priced out of the sport. It seems like a lot of fans have discretionary income, so having a team could put money into the local economy that might be saved instead.
If the Jaguars ever leave Jacksonville, there will be zero places for the pro sports fan to spend any dollars in this town. I don't think all that money will still be spent on the same businesses I mentioned earlier for other attractions. Some people will hang onto it because none of the alternatives are enough to motivate them to part with the money they used to spend on a NFL team.
So I definitely see an adverse negative impact to a team leaving, though I won't go as far as to conclude that this makes publicly funded stadiums justifiable. I think they're a racket that makes rich people richer and politicians more powerful at the expense of the taxpayer.
posted by rcade at 09:03 AM on March 20
Yes there's a lot of funny math used by government officials to justify these boondoggles.
But I don't see how you can claim there's no increased economic activity on the 10 days a year when the Rams are hosting a game. Any time you bring tens of thousands of people to an event there are going to be increased business for grocery stores for tailgate supplies, gas stations, restaurants, bars, parking lots and stadium concessions, all of which help those businesses and their employees and generate sales taxes. Local newspapers, radio and TV stations also benefit because the team draws more eyeballs and they can sell them to advertisers.
Though some fans will go without on other days to afford game day expenditures, others will increase their spending.
If the Rams leave St. Louis and no NFL team takes their place, there will be negative effects on the local economy. It might not be anywhere near what the officials claim, but it'll be something a lot of businesses in that city miss.
posted by rcade at 08:32 AM on March 19
If he has any throwing talent, it seems like Tebow has the work ethic and character to be a backup quarterback in the NFL. The way House describes Tebow's physical strength makes me wonder if a QB can be too strong to throw effectively.
posted by rcade at 10:47 AM on March 17
I agree with you in general -- they should share in the massive wealth they generate -- but to generalize that D1 athletes in football and basketball get "no actual education" is not true. Plenty of athletes even in the top sports do manage to get a useful degree.
I may be mistaken, but athletes also are afforded the opportunity to finish their degree on scholarship after their eligibility is up. It seems like any athlete who does not get an education is as much to blame for that outcome as the school that exploited his talents in sport.
posted by rcade at 10:13 AM on March 17
I guess maybe they're going to dangle Sam out there to get up in the draft ...
Kelly has flat-out said the Eagles are not trading up to get Mariota.
posted by rcade at 08:16 AM on March 13
Romo's always been a serviceable quarterback. Last year's run-first offense made him look like an elite one. 69.9 completion percentage!
posted by rcade at 08:14 AM on March 13
No Orlando, the new center of American soccer fandom?
posted by rcade at 08:12 AM on March 13
Murray seems like an upgrade for them, and it's even better if it ends up as a downgrade for Dallas.
posted by rcade at 02:58 PM on March 12
I asked the Orlando police whether that fan was arrested. They said he "was trespassed" -- which I guess means he got a trespassing ticket -- and escorted to medical treatment for a broken ankle.
posted by rcade at 10:55 AM on March 12
The Niners are reminding me of what it was like when Jerry Jones ran the Cowboys with such a tight grip that they always hired second-rate coaches and team execs. Nobody with better options wanted to work in that environment.
posted by rcade at 11:04 AM on March 11
I love the Jimmy Graham trade for Seattle. Russell Wilson's mobility and Graham's ability to create matchup problems will be a nightmare for defenses.
Philly giving up a second-round pick as part of the Sam Bradford deal is a jaw dropper. That city has a lot of high bridges. Fans must be forming long lines today to jump off them. I don't think I'd trade a second round pick for Bradford straight up, and he's got a contract one million less than Tom Brady! Chip Kelly must have a bigger plan afoot.
posted by rcade at 10:28 AM on March 11
I don't think MJD had a lot of options, given where he was at in his career when he could finally explore free agency. The Jags didn't want him any more because they were rebuilding under a new coach and GM.
posted by rcade at 10:27 AM on March 10
I bought a ticket at the last minute and discovered when I arrived it was on the front row, 20 feet from a corner. Seeing a crowd that huge watch MLS soccer was incredible. It was a sea of purple dying for something good to happen, watching three yellow cards given to Orlando City players who fell in the box. The first by Brek Shea was obviously a dive. The others were both tripped, so seeing them get carded was a shock and a grievious insult to the home crowd.
Then Mix scored on a great curling shot, a red card put Orlando City a man down and it looked like a bummer ending until Kaka scored the franchise's first goal and caused utter pandemonium.
Orlando has Sunrail mass transit now, and the local media was warning people there's nowhere close to enough parking near the Citrus Bowl. I parked at a distant rail station in Sanford.
Don't trust southern cities to do mass transit well. There were so few trains it took three hours to get to the game and 2.5 to get back. But it was fun anyway. I somehow made the kickoff with eight minutes to spare.
There was a security breach that seemed pretty significant to me after the final whistle. A fan in my section jumped onto the field, then walked to midfield and embraced Kaka and other players. The cops didn't get to him until after this happened, even though he sprained an ankle leaping onto the field. I was surprised by the lack of police presence on the sidelines to stop that kind of thing from happening.
posted by rcade at 11:42 AM on March 09
I don't understand how a sprain is already cause for the Tommy John discussion.
If his season is over, the Rangers are done unless there's a miracle waiting for them at Double or Triple A.
posted by rcade at 09:07 PM on March 07
... 3+ hours in increasing heat everyday is going to take a toll on guys.
Yep. I watched many Rangers seasons that wilted in the late-summer heat.
posted by rcade at 12:13 PM on March 07
It depends on how little enhancement is necessary to qualify as performance-enhancing. It's easy to see the effect of steroids because of the physical changes they cause. The effects of drugs that increase alertness aren't as easy to observe, and there are plenty of legal substances people take that affect alertness. There's also a rising number of players who get a waiver to take ADHD medicine.
posted by rcade at 12:11 PM on March 07
... his command of English is apparently not as strong as his ball playing ...
He's from Jacksonville and appears quite often on a local sports talk station here. He's quite intelligent, well-spoken and funny. I'd say his comments here are articulated poorly because his position is so freaking lame. "Yeah, we love you gay people, but we hate that you are gay -- because Jesus! -- and think it is a lifestyle instead of an intrinsic part of your being, but know that we love you and God loves you too but hates all of your gay. K thx bye!"
posted by rcade at 12:26 PM on March 04
A few trolls stopping and realizing this is a best case scenario in 2015.
I don't think that's true. The level of abuse heaped on people is a function of Twitter's design decision to show all @ replies to everyone. It doesn't happen on Facebook, where the default is to only allow responses from friends unless you explicitly allow everyone to respond.
Most of the abuse we're talking about occurs on Twitter.
He's already in "targeted forever" territory.
There's a difference between being targeted briefly and being subjected to a relentless campaign like the one the female targets of GamerGate are experiencing.
posted by rcade at 01:51 PM on March 03
What's his alternative option at this point?
He could have ignored them.
If he had to have justice, he could have pursued his abusers directly by complaining to their employers or colleges or perhaps even filing suit. He didn't have to call out a mob that he surely knows will display the same anonymity-fueled vile tendencies of his daughter's abusers.
A friend of mine who vocally speaks about feminism gets steady streams of hate mail. She never responds, but it doesn't stop coming in because she ignores it.
Your friend is smart. I've faced a few over-the-top abusive crazies, including one that went after me personally in some unbelievable ways because of a post on SportsFilter I (initially) refused to delete. There is nothing you can do in public that makes it better. You just feed the beast. They crave the negative response.
The best you can do is give them complete radio silence and hope they will move on to a target who is more fun to abuse. I teach my kids this. It isn't satisfying -- you want to rain hell down on them in public the way Schilling is doing -- but any normal person is never going to win a battle with a truly deranged Internet troll. They have all the time in the world and no reputation to worry about damaging.
Schilling and his family will likely be targeted forever by other trolls because of how he responded to this.
Turning trolls on themselves seems like the only real way to make it stop in 2015.
But do you honestly think Schilling's actions will make anything stop? At best a few of his trolls will vanish from social media. Maybe a few others will realize that posting sexual insults at a famous person's daughter isn't harmless fun. At worst somebody who just lost their job or college career, or somebody angry that happened, will escalate the situation.
As I said originally I have mixed feelings. Schilling did what a lot of people would want to do in that situation. But I don't think it helps.
posted by rcade at 10:47 AM on March 03
The jerks who decided to spew the garbage on Schilling's daughter very likely presumed that their anonymity would protect them.
The ones he caught first were not anonymous, so that's unlikely. Something else was at play in their reprehensible actions.
The default on Twitter of showing @ responses from everyone is part of the reason this kind of abuse is rampant. It is as if everything ever said about Curt Schilling anywhere could be heard by him. There should be ways to limit what you receive in your notifications.
It's no surprise that a female -- Schilling's daughter -- was the target of abuse. Women are being attacked on Twitter by trolls all day long. I enjoy Twitter, but it's getting a well-deserved rep for being a magnet for misogyny and threats of violence against women.
posted by rcade at 09:30 AM on March 03
Maybe I'm a little old school, but a couple of misogynist pigs spending a couple of weeks knowing what it's like to deal with guys like themselves is not the worst thing in the world.
Yes, his abusers will be shamed. One already has been suspended from college and another may have lost his job.
But if Schilling thinks repulsive Twitter behavior is a bad thing, how is it countering that to encourage repulsive Twitter behavior? He's not making the problem better, as much as he laments the trend in his blog post.
When he named his daughter's abusers and ended by identifying the Twitter accounts of two he could not name, he knew what would happen next -- those abusers would be found, doxxed and attacked as badly as his daughter was.
posted by rcade at 10:11 PM on March 02
There's more details on the hunt for these trolls that Schilling unleashed.
I have mixed feelings about this. These trolls were engaging in a hostile, destructive act. Schilling is counting on the same impulses by asking the online mob to go after them. Is that act likely to do anything but feed the Twitter monster?
posted by rcade at 05:30 PM on March 02
posted by rcade at 08:38 PM on March 01
Hard to imagine how it could be 5 times worse ...
Punching a woman in the face while wearing NFL-prohibited gloves.
posted by rcade at 11:20 AM on February 26
The thing I like best about that area is the Fells Point pub crawl.
posted by rcade at 09:24 AM on February 22
I don't think the Inner Harbor would be successful without those stadiums. It was declining as a tourist and local draw, dropping from 18 million visitors in year one to 11 million in year two.
The link calls Camden Yards the "first true urban ballpark constructed in almost a century." Though a lot of stadium revitalization claims end up bogus, that's one I'd call massively successful.
posted by rcade at 10:18 AM on February 21
Again - I think under the right circumstances, a stadium could be a good thing.
Coors Field in Denver seems like another positive example, though it might be the end of the LoDo revitalization rather than the beginning.
Many in Dallas are still grumbling that Mayor Laura Miller helped kill any idea of the Cowboys building downtown. It seems to me there was plenty of opportunity there -- some parts of downtown are pretty raggedy -- but Arlington happily took on the tax burden of JerryWorld.
posted by rcade at 07:09 PM on February 20
It's becoming more and more clear that major sports corporations are becoming more and more of a plague on the cities they're in ...
They aren't just a plague. A stadium project can revitalize a downtown. Baltimore's Inner Harbor is a good example. Having Camden Yards and the Ravens stadium in the area instead of somewhere in the 'burbs has made a huge difference there.
I don't see cities or states ever stopping these stadium deals. It would have to come from the federal government or possibly a state voter referendum.
posted by rcade at 01:44 PM on February 20
Pro teams are so good at these stadium extortion schemes I'll be surprised if L.A. gets any of these teams. If St. Louis loses the Rams I fear that Shahid Khan will be tempted to move the Jaguars out of Jacksonville, since his Flex-N-Gate auto parts company is based in Urbana, Illinois, and he originally sought to buy the Rams.
But Khan put a lot of money into huge videoboards and other improvements at Everbank Field and he just unveiled a shipyards development project that would turn the grimy industrial zone around the stadium into a hotel/restaurant/entertainment district and no doubt make a lot of money for him. If that idea gets anywhere he'll need the Jaguars to stay around.
posted by rcade at 12:26 PM on February 20
The Texas Rangers have signed Roughned Odor's younger brother Roughned Odor.
posted by rcade at 08:52 AM on February 20
In other news, rugby appears to have a concussion protocol in which a player is sent off for testing while a substitute plays for him, then can return to play if testing decides his brains are unscrambled. Soccer could learn from that.
posted by rcade at 01:03 PM on February 19
Those of you who thought this would become a farce were ahead of me. I concede the point and now want the investigation to take years and be longer than the Warren Commission report.
posted by rcade at 05:52 PM on February 18
If the head of the supporters association said anything else, he'd be the former head of the supporters association.
posted by rcade at 11:16 AM on February 18
Ugh. Is it too much to hope that the chant was an ironic statement about not allowing the black guy on the car simply because it was so crowded?
posted by rcade at 10:03 AM on February 18
When I'm trying to avoid a sports result my mind works feverishly to figure it out anyway from incomplete pieces of information. So if a friend asks me if I've seen the game yet I obsess over whether his tone and word choice suggested a win or loss.
Lately during the Super Bowl I've been contemplating what life is like for the people who don't care about the game and go out that night. I picture a world like the movie where Will Smith, his dog and zombies are the only thing left.
posted by rcade at 09:57 AM on February 18
That reminds me of the banner the Russians unfurled at a Euro 2012 match against Poland.
Surely those banners aren't being snuck in. Any punishment to result from the stunt should be levied on the team for allowing it.
posted by rcade at 08:22 AM on February 18
Outside the Lines is back on the Pats' balls, reporting that a locker room attendant tried to introduce an unapproved special-teams football into the AFC Championship Game.
posted by rcade at 10:13 PM on February 17
I like that too. I keep expecting them to fall away to the sides like a Busby Berkeley dance number.
posted by rcade at 09:53 PM on February 17
I've now watched two rugby matches, lifetime. I should always keep track of this.
Ireland defeated Italy 26-3 in Six Nations round 1. The game featured something I hadn't seen before -- a bunch of mauls. I had no idea how they form or how they end, but they were cool looking and I missed them when they were over. (To this noob, a maul looks like a standing baby scrum with a ball carrier at the back and the other team unable to just go around and tackle him.)
There's a lot of kicking to no purpose I could determine other than field position. The receiving team sometimes kicked it back, only to have the first team kick it a third time.
posted by rcade at 05:10 PM on February 17
As someone with a son in Little League recently, I don't think it's absurd at all. Poor kids only are going to be in normal Little League. They won't get involved in travel leagues without outside help. The money, driving and time required are all significant expenses that some families won't be able to afford. Not every gifted 12-year-old whose family lacks resources is going to find a patron.
Additionally, Little League around here was the ugly stepsister to travel leagues. There wasn't nearly enough attention to developing the skills of the kids just starting out.
My son switched over to soccer and had a much better time. The league was bigger, the coaches and parents were friendlier and there was copious instruction for all skill levels.
posted by rcade at 08:49 PM on February 14
I just caught up on Liverpool/Tottenham. One of the most exciting games of the season. Harry Kane looks like he's going to be something special for England.
posted by rcade at 04:04 PM on February 14
Ufez: That would be great. Would it be like the NHL contest?
posted by rcade at 02:16 PM on February 13
You're welcome. Sorry I forget to post the results as I wallowed in post-game coverage of the game for days.
You were a beast in the second half score predictions.
The margin of error for the final score needs to be tighter than .3. The only players who didn't get a point there were no-shows.
posted by rcade at 02:35 PM on February 12
Most passing yards: Brady (328); most rushing yards: Lynch (102); most receiving yards: Julian Edelman and Chris Matthews (109); first touchdown: Brandon LaFell; sacks: Rob Ninkovich, Darrelle Revis, Chandler Jones, Bruce Irvin; interceptions: Malcolm Butler, Bobby Wagner, Jeremy Lane. Total score: 52 (36 to 68 margin of error); first quarter: 0 (0); second quarter: 28 (20 to 36); third quarter: 10 (7 to 13); fourth quarter: 14 (10 to 18).
posted by rcade at 02:17 PM on February 12
I'm working on them today. They got overlooked in the post-Super Bowl excitement.
posted by rcade at 02:13 PM on February 11
"If you don't know Jesus as your Lord and Savior, if you don't have a relationship [with Him], if He's not the master of your life, if you've never gotten on your knees and asked Him to forgive you of your sins, [and] you're just a pretty good guy or a pretty good gal, you're going to go to Hell." -- Nascar driver and announcer Darrell Waltrip
Boogity, boogity, boogity!
posted by rcade at 09:19 AM on February 11
Not even in college when you were really, really drunk?
posted by rcade at 04:13 PM on February 08
I watched that game -- the first full rugby match I've seen. I didn't get far in my understanding of the rules, but it was intriguing. Wales disappeared in the second half.
A few observations and questions:
When a player reaches the end zone for a 5-point play, does he keep running towards the middle to determine the spot of the 2-point kick? What is a defender trying to do when he runs to him in the end zone?
Also, what's the penalty called when the runner is down and he's trying to put the ball back to a teammate on the ground? England got several of those, and I couldn't figure out why.
I liked how they put a camera on the main official. It would be cool to see the NFL do that for all officials, and have it turn towards whatever the official is looking at.
posted by rcade at 04:14 PM on February 07
Apology accepted. Comparing you to an ESPN commenter was harsh, so sorry for that.
As I made that snarky comment I was dealing with a Polish spammer who created over 2,400 accounts on this site just to put a link in the bio.
I wonder what DeflateGate did to the resolve of Belichick and Brady to stick around. I could see them self-motivating on it for a while.
posted by rcade at 08:22 PM on February 06
posted by rcade at 07:47 PM on February 06
One of my regrets as a Cowboys fan is that I was so supportive of seeing Tom Landry and Tex Schramm out the door. Spoiled by the team's long success, 7-9, 7-8 and 3-13 seasons were all the suffering I could abide. The only coach and only GM in team history were gone after 29 years and I hardly missed them.
I don't have a sense of entitlement about Cowboys success any more. A playoff loss like the one they suffered to the Packers used to be a crushing blow. It felt as if their rightful place in the NFL was denied them. I had to overcome my profound sense of shock at a round of the playoffs being held without Dallas in it.
Now, I'm practically a parent about all of this. I applauded the team for doing their best even if it came up short, and I didn't even enjoy the cruel fate of the Packers a week later.
posted by rcade at 12:08 PM on February 06
If Deflategate turns out to be nothing, do you think Troy Aikman or Mark Brunell will apologize?
If only one of 12 balls was significantly deflated, the group to be mad at is the NFL more than anyone in the media. The league could have figured that out immediately and never let this blossom into a scandal.
I am having trouble believing that's the truth because it would be so freaking ridiculous of the league not to figure that out on the Monday morning after the AFC Championship Game. Bob Kraft is one of Goodell's biggest supporters. How could Goodell let this become a week-long mediastorm against his bud's team if only one ball was significantly lower than 12.5 PSI? The mind boggles.
It's not that hard to do when the enjoyment of Superbowl wins is constantly offset by people pissing and moaning.
That would get on my nerves, but I think it would be a minor annoyance compared to the satisfaction of the run your team has been on since 2001. What you've experienced with Bill Belichick and Tom Brady never happens any more. Teams don't carry a sustained run of excellence, year after year after year, and always enter the postseason as one of the Super Bowl favorites. They have a few great years and then it falls apart and they have to rebuild.
Someday you could be looking back at 20 years of mediocrity with only the occasional good season and zero-count-em-zero Super Bowl rings, the way I am as a Dallas Cowboys fan.
Or you could experience the NFL fan experience of Jacksonville, where an 8-8 season in 2015 would completely rock our worlds.
posted by rcade at 11:00 AM on February 06
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