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I think its about time Steve Smith got some credit. The Bears didn't choke, they just weren't good enough to stop Smith. ...umm, The guy fell down, twice!!!, that was 100 yards and 12 points right there. Technically the Bears could have lined up with 10 players and left Smith uncovered and the results would have been the same. If two uncontested TDs against the #2 NFL defense is not choking, then its close!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 08:45 PM on January 16, 2006
I'll save my predictions on Smith's future I'd wait about 80 tds just so we can compare apples to apples If he could start in the Superbowl on a partially healed ankle fracture I would be sure.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 08:37 PM on January 16, 2006
This is somewhat easy to defeat. You could easily take the MLB data and repost it with different coded values. You could then release a code reading key, that would reveal the true MLB values. They could then be accumilated for further evalulation for point distribution. This was how the early filters on Napster were defeated, although that didn't work out exactly as planned ! The copyrighting of the statistics would create an undergroud market for the fantasy leagues. they could operate off shore like a casino .
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 08:26 PM on January 16, 2006
The NFL actually admits a mistake by a referee Could any point be anymore moot? How about the Colts last play TD in 1995? How about Mike Renfro 1979?
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 08:08 PM on January 16, 2006
A judicial decision that game statistics are property would have effects beyond these games. If I am given a baseball scorecard at Yankee Stadium, will I have to sign a non-disclosure waiver? or pay a Microsoft-like lisencesing fee? How about if I memorize statistical information from the game, then post it on my blog?
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 08:13 AM on January 16, 2006
thought the Panthers/Bears game was the best played game of the weekend Yea, #33 Charles Tillman, DB for the Bears. It was the best game he ever " watched ", too! Well, he only fell down twice, which only led to 2 tds. The other times he was beat were between the 20's!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 08:08 AM on January 16, 2006
beer commercials and other male-targeted ads. why don't they show more singing tampon ads?
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 08:02 AM on January 16, 2006
feel confident about next week and feel that we can get to Jake Plummer. And the winner for the number one steelers fan this weekend is.... Nick Harpers wife So, If I follow your strategy correctly..., You will you have her stab Jake Plummer this week?
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 07:56 AM on January 16, 2006
This is an information society. Information storage and retrieval are big buisness. So is information theft. This is the begining or perhaps the continuance of an Orwelian type of information control. The greater the control of the information the more profitable the information for those who control it.COPYRIGHT2006-gronir_hitrops* * I will sue your ass!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 06:53 AM on January 16, 2006
Big Ben'll be, what, 22 or 23? posted by Saxman at 10:35 PM CST on January 15 Yes, he will be the first and youngest QB ever to lose 2 AFC championship games in his first 2 seasons!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 06:45 AM on January 16, 2006
Maybe it is my conspiratorial mind at work but, the replay has opened up another tool for the puppet masters. The refs seem to consistantly call close plays the way that would most likely lead to a replay. (the fumble through the endzone as a td) they already knew that the play would be negated, if they called a touchback.( because of the personal foul) The chances of Fox not challenging the TD call were slim and none, and slim had already left town. Who Cares? Big Deal, So what?. I think that once it's in the replay booth, a team of league "officials" decide the fate of football humanity, not unlike the Robert Deniro character in "Wag the Dog". A professional Mr Fix It. Why you ask? I haven't really thought this all the way through yet but I'm working on it!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 09:03 PM on January 15, 2006
Diamond Rings: Tom Brady (6th Round) 3 Manning Family (3 1st Rounders)0 Didn't see Tom blame his team for the lost last night. Colts have had the tools for years but they are rightfully cursed for sneaking out I am still in shock that I just saw a hand picked media darling NFL chosen son piss all over his teamates. Trying to be a good teamate?WTF! It is incredulous. Brady had worse protection then Manning. Nobody was even blaming Manning. He just punted his reputation as a regular guy-"Cut that meat!"... Indeed.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 07:39 PM on January 15, 2006
And can you believe Manning blaming the O-Line after the game? What a jerk! I never like him. I like him less now. The whole team wins or loses. posted by STLCardinalfan at 6:56 PM CST on January 15 Easily the lowest moment of Mannings career. Maybe the worst statemnt after a loss I have ever heard, WOW! This is public appology type territory
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 07:11 PM on January 15, 2006
This continues the streak of sons of NFL QBs not winning in crucial games. I am still trying to figure what that passive agressive comment by Manning about the pass protection was all about! That sounded like a Terrell Owens-type dig at the O-lineman or the coach. Does he think because he prefaced the statement with " tryin' to be a good teamate" , he will get off the hook. Nice try! VanDerJakt made no new friends but, everybody hates him anyway. Dungy will be saved by the personal crisis exemption and the fact that Cowher still has him out choked in big games. I had always given Manning the benefit of the doubt, but today could have been his Marino-ization. Big Ben continued to to impress, especially the season saving tackle on the Bettis fumble.Mannings reputation will need a major overhaul!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 07:07 PM on January 15, 2006
Roger Feder is the best tennis player I have ever seen play. He has absolutely no weaknesses. He is in fantastic physical condition and can just wait for his opponent to make a mistake. It is mesmerizing. It is a treat to watch a great volley player win in this era of "3 times over the net giant racket" ball. There have been better servers. I think Agassi in his prime was a better first return guy, but nobody has had Feder's combonation of weapons and lack of an attackable weakness. Only time will tell. I'm mean he is human, he has lost at least twice since 2003, including one final. Eventually he will lose a Grand Slam final...I guess!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 07:22 AM on January 15, 2006
Best play of the game was the Champ Bailey interception almost TD, possible touchback, not overturned, momentum crushing, guard changing, 99 yard return to the Patriots one. That #84 guy what hustle, that is football. I am not even a Patriots fan in fact I bet on the Broncos, but There were some crazy calls and plays in this game. I think the puppet master was pulling some strings.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 11:04 PM on January 14, 2006
Ticket prices are making a come back!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:54 PM on January 14, 2006
but if someone does like ad hominems, there are other sports forums where they'd be better off. they may want to check out- myteamrocksyourteamsucksfilter.net and whatthefuckdoyouknowanyhow.org
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:50 PM on January 14, 2006
The curse of GRAND MAMA still haunts the Knick. They are still paying the 100 million dollar contract of Larry Johnson. This may belong in the drug testing thread but it is another reason for pre screening employees for degenerative conditions. It is apparent that a corporately run team that, juggles TV revenue is not interested in winning. You can aurgue the Yankees, but I can counter with the Knicks and Dogers. the four reigning champs in their respective sports are not corpos.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 11:10 AM on January 14, 2006
gronir, I don't know if I'd call the Devils a clutch-and-grab team. They certainly trapped, but they never struck me as having the physical presence to successfully pull off the clutch-and-grab. Now, the big teams that didn't trap did end up basing their defensive systems on clutching and grabbing. I remember many Toronto-Philadephia 1-1 snoozefests in which no skater could take more than two strides without being smothered DrJohn, I agree with you. My emotions got the better of me. The Devils played the "trap" to perfection and other teams mimicked them. I cut my teeth on hockey in 1974. I grew up in Philadelphia, so you can say I am used to a different style of play. I was driven from the game by the wide open 1980s( damn you Gretsky!) Then I saw a glimmer of hope. Mats Sundin, Eric lindros, John Leclair big guys fore checking, attacking the net!( holy Phil Esposito ..I'm home! Then the Devils proved that their brand of hockey was a very winnable style, so good infact that they had to change the rules. The low point in my fandom was cheering for the Flyers as they played clutch and grab(Hitchcock style) against the Tampa Bay wide open, grip it and rip it( they way you should play the game) hockey in the 03-04 playoffs. I have never been more convoluted.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:59 AM on January 14, 2006
do you know what an ad hominem logical fallacy is? Its when you attack the person instead of the argument because you can't refute the argum If you don't like ad hominems or non sequiturs, than this is not a good place to visit. How boring the internet communities would be if everything was an agreed upon pre established fact presented in a logically sound fasion! Yikes .Beyond that the NFL community is very tight. Nobody would intentionally blow out somebodies knee. Retribution is to easy to follow. Do you know what a " low bridge " cut block is? The defensive lineman in the NFL are well aware of it. Knock a guy unconscious?... hell yeah!...end a guys career by attacking his knee?... no way! not acceptable for any reason, winning included!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:30 AM on January 14, 2006
gronir, I'm pretty sure the new bats are made of maple. Pine would make a very bad bat. Agreed, but which would smell better?
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:21 AM on January 14, 2006
This might seem kind of dry in comparison to other posts but...The main reason that there is drug testing in the United States is to minimize the amount of sick days and work site related accedents, which ultimately reduces production. Most states make the employer liable for work place accidents. They may have to support the financial well being of the injured employee and his family though a large financial settlement. If an company hires someone with a degenerative condition that causes them to miss work ( ie rehabs )they cannot dissmiss that employee while they are in treatment and have to retain them until the can prove either thay are incompetent or irresponcible. A pre employment blood and urine test is the most cost effective way to prevent long term absenteeism. It has been tested and proven by those great protectors of the cause...the insurance companies. so if you want to blame someone look no further because ultimately they have to pay for this mess,...and they did not get rich by writing alot of checks!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:18 AM on January 14, 2006
Can you make it Skittlebrau?
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 09:57 AM on January 14, 2006
Remember when the Texas Rangers got into a scuffle with the fans of the Oakland A's a couple of years ago? The one where Frank Francisco threw a chair into the crowd and broke a woman's nose? Doug Brocail was the first Ranger to go into the crowd (and started the big brouhaha) because of some yahoos taunting him. What did they say that got him so riled up? Not that he sucked as a pitcher. Or that he was uglier than Rosanne in a bikini. Or even that he should perform a solo sexual act. No, they decided to make fun of the fact that Brocail's wife had just recently given birth to a stillborn child. I don't care who you are or what you do for a living, if someone goes that low you can't be expected to control your emotions. That is something that is not exceptable to about 99% of the population. It is unfortunate that there is no pre screening test for ticket applicants, so every now and then one of these reprehensable creatures slips threw the crowd of the reasonable people attending the game. It is part of life in a free society and is hard to ignore, but ultimately " speech delivered to inflame or hurt " is a reasonable defense plea in an assalt case in most states. Let justice be served! Although in this instance, it was an innocent ( I guess ) bystander who got hurt.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 09:54 AM on January 14, 2006
List of players that withdrew R.Allen-got married You must prioritize your life. If she really loves you she can wait. Does she know your rich? T.Mcgrady-"security concerns" Terrorist- 1 Mcgrady- 0
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 09:40 AM on January 14, 2006
Let us not forget in this discussion that AI was the starting shooting guard and co-captain on the 2004 olympic team that was nothing short of a disgrace. We were bested by Argentina and Italy at our own game. Great leadership skills. Yeah well at leat he had the balls to show up and give it a shot! Paging Shaq..Shaq hello..Kobe...Kevin,.. Tracy, Vince anybody?... where are you guys?.. come on this ain't funny anymore!..Hellooo, U..S..A...U..S...A, oh never mind!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 06:15 AM on January 13, 2006
" I like my beer cold, my TV loud and my football players stupid!"-Homer Simpson Perhaps Joey is employing some type of "Jedi" mind trick. So the Colts can't beat you in a smash mouth type of mono y mono football. So, maybe the Colts know this fact to be true as well. So they don't play that type of game.(duh!) While the Joey Porters of the world continue to butt their heads into the wall of life getting electric shocks for their efforts. The Peyton Mannings are already eating the cheese! Ratology 101!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 06:07 AM on January 13, 2006
Barry Bonds did something prior to the 1999 season that has changed the game forever. He experimented with a new substance, it had been around for years, but was only speculated as to what effect it would have on the game of baseball....That substance was ...PINE ! That's right Barry switched form a bat made from "ash" to a much more dense "pine wood". He noticed a dramatic increase in the distance the balls off his bat would travel. Other players soon followed suit. I always wonder why the MLB never seems to mention this well known fact. It would seem like an answer for all the "steroid enhanced" questions. Maybe they think that it is more devestaing to the fans to know a "simple wood" could change their game so much!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 05:51 AM on January 13, 2006
I think it is just a case of the doctor giving himself "props" after the fact. Most of these team surgens work for free, in terms of what they do for the players. Their payment is that they can advertize that if they are good enough for the NFL, then surely your puny little skiing injury is worth paying the extra high fee they are going to charge.".. the man who saved Carson Palmers career now available at resonable rates call now and book while there are still openings..hurray time is running out!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 05:39 AM on January 13, 2006
treak4455: It stops the goalie from wandering too far behind the net to stop shoot-ins. The "Marty B. Rule", as I call it, means that they can't field the dump-ins and quickly pass them back out to the defenceman if it's behind the redline and outside the trapazoid. It forces the defenceman to retrieve the puck on his own, giving the forecheckers a chance. Let us stop and give thanks to the great commissioner in the sky, for there shall be no more" dump in/ dump out " pong style hockey. Let us also give thanks for the smighting of the oafish defensman grappling the mercurial and beloved "left-wings". So that they shall be free to skate "untethered" toward the net. The Devils skated to three of the most boring Stanley Cups ever! There should be an astresk next to their name...*played under old clutch and grab style of hockey that nearly destroyed our sport. Save only the "head hunting" of Scott Stevens to make the games played during this period watchable. Ahmen!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 05:10 AM on January 13, 2006
Allen Iverson = Shortest guy ever drafted #1 Allen Iverson = Shortest guy to win a scoring title x 4 Allen Iverson = shortest MVP in 30+ years Allen Iverson = the guy the storylink is about!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 09:42 PM on January 12, 2006
I think Thomas was the greatest pure point guard that I ever saw play. He was tough and rose to the occasion to win two titles. Its just that I never liked him or his team. The night he kissed Magic Johnson before the game really challenged me, not interms of gender kissing, but in terms of rivalries. Then there was also the time he took his ball and went home early, when Jordan's Bulls final beat the Pistons in the playoffs.WAAAAAAA!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 06:46 AM on January 12, 2006
McCarthy is the buffer guy who is hired to be fired as the Packers wait for a coaching "stud" to become available.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 06:36 AM on January 12, 2006
My first Yankee game was in 1992. The Yankees were playing Boston I bought a $6 bleacher seat and sat right behind the bull pen. Boston won 7-6 in a rain delayed 4 hour yawner. but the real action was in the Yankees bull pen where Steve Howe, who was with the Yankees trying to return from his 8th drug related suspension. Steve was offered a lot of things that night, even he had to laugh after somebody questioned the chemical make up of third base line. It was a special night for all.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 11:28 PM on January 11, 2006
Wow, My favorite athlete of the millenium. He is the ultimate protagonist. I feel like I watched him grow up or at least watched him go through major character changes. The very first time I saw Iverson it was in a fuzzy security tape of a bowling alley brawl. He was doing time as being implicated in the severe beating of a rival gang member. Then the governor stepped in and granted him amnesty. Wow you know you have some game when the governor bails you out. Next time was in NYC at MSG. It was the much anticipated match up of the two super freshman, Iverson from Georgetown and Felipe Lopez from St Johns. No contest AI's first step was legendary that night! He never looked back and Lopez never recovered. It is amazing to watch him drive right at, around and sometimes over the big guys in the middle of the NBA. Not a consistant shooter, but as hot as anybody when he's hot. Remember the shoot outs with Vince Carter in the playoffs? How about his rookie year, when he broke Jordan off his dribble, Then popped one right in his hall of fame grill? Nobody else ever did that to MJ! The most impressive thing for me is the way he matured intellectualy, but still retained all his "street cred". He never back peddled from anything he said or did. Always showing character even if it was flawed. He, along with Larry Bird, has to be among the poorest kids ever to make it in pro sports. Any mis judgements had to be expected when you go from abject poverty(basically homeless) to abstract wealth. It is just a great American story. The thing with his wife was about her going on a shopping spree, basically showing no respect for the origin of the money she spent. AI threw her out of the house naked, after he stripped off all her furs and jewlery. Iverson went to look for her at his cousin's house.( where AI paid the rent!) He demanded that they give her back to him. They refused so Iverson made some threats. He got her to come home eventually. Maybe not acceptable in most of polite society, but probably common place where he grew up. I would love to see him get a ring and give it to his mom, who is at every game, in a number 3 jersey.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 11:05 PM on January 11, 2006
I don't think any of Lewis' behavior reveals him to be any sort of hardened criminal. And, after his probation, his record was cleared, the prosecutor's admitted that he was innocent of any direct involvement in the murders (which is why he didn't get suspended by the NFL). Yes, Ray Lewis was not convicted of a crime, so he is not a criminal. He did as per the testimony of the two murder defendants witness what transpired between the accussed and the victim. Which resulted in the victims death. He did as per court record testify against his associates. He did lie( I didn't see nutin' ), as corroborated by the defendants, about what he witnessed.( hence the misdemeanor ). Part of a plea bargin is that when a case is dismissed any misdemeanors that were implicit in the structure of the case become moot and therefore dismissed as matter of public record ( after a mandatory probationary period ), although still part of the case record. So while not a hardened criminal, he is a liar, an unreliable witness and the kind of guy that would " drop a dime " on a friend, just to save his million dollar football career.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:32 PM on January 10, 2006
He didn't get a play call in one time. He mumbled and Freddie Mitchell yelled out the play we were trying to bring in. He was puking at the same time, trying to hold it in." -- Eagles center Hank Fraley, on the Eagles last drive Sure sounds like the QB I want taking my team the distance in crucial situation. Well, not over Brady or Manning. I would have to take Mcnabb over every other QB in the league. You can compare statistics like 7 years in league,5 consecutive pro bowls, 5 consecutive playoff trips with at least one win( joining only Stabler, Aikman and Favre ), 4 consecutive NFC championship games, 3 consecutive NFC best records, 1 NFC championship and top 5 winning percentage alltime. I think I'll keep Donovan over what ever the Bears line up at QB, Brunell and Hasselback are not the same caliber. If Jake D takes the Panthers all the way. I might give him the nod over Dmac...Maybe
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:02 PM on January 10, 2006
No, it wasn't a knee-sweep that Moore did on Naslund (which is what led to the revenge motive). It was a shoulder/upper-arm/elbow to the head as Naslund was leaning forward to corral a loose puck. Dig a little deeper, remember these guys carry grudges for years. Moore was a front runner to become the new Marchment. There was definately a history. You never forget the guy who tried to ruin your career!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 09:46 PM on January 10, 2006
I believe only two visiting QBs have ever won playoff games at Denver. Yes, but you have to go back to 1998 to find a playoff game at Denver, so I'm not sure how much that statistic is worth. Go right ahead, Stone Cold Lockers. Come up with whatever juju you want -- Mile High Stadium, the phase of the moon, you name it. I expect the Pats are gonna handle the horses. They lost to the Broncos 28-20 on October 16, without Tedy Bruschi or some other key players who will be ready to play next weekend. by lil_brown_bat at 10:58 AM CST on January 8 I think it has something to do with the altitude. Denver always does well at home(It is still a mile high even at a different stadium ), you always see guys on the opposing sideline sucking down oxygen. It might be psychological, but it is still a factor. Teddy Bruschi is not in great shape as per his injury. Brady has to lose a playoff game sometime. This one would be an acceptable defeat.17-13 Broncos! Plummer will rise up to his new pro bowl status. I say last guy to throw an INT loses!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 09:41 PM on January 10, 2006
... Ray Lewis isn't a hardened criminal because he pled guilty to a misdemeanor -- regardless of what crimes he was initially accused of. Lewis may have pled guilty only to a misdemeanor, but let's not minimize what he did after two people were stabbed to death following the 2000 Super Bowl in Atlanta. Lewis admitted that he told people in his entourage to lie after they were involved in the deaths of the men. He admitted giving a false statement to police after the murders. He hid the white suit he wore that night so well it has never been found. He paid $1 million to settle a civil suit filed by one victim's family and another sum to settle with the other. No one has ever been convicted of the crimes Lewis obstructed. posted by rcade at 4:13 PM CST on January 9 The Ray Lewis case was a plea bargin. The defense team really earned their money. Lewis admitted to false testimony, a misdemeanor. He then testfied against his companions as a witness for the prosecution. The defense motioned to dismiss the Lewis testimony as unreliable, on the grounds that, he had already pled guilty to filing a false report there by establishing him as a less then reliable witness. He was dismissed and his testimony struck from the case. He was the only witness, ( that was still alive ) so the case was dismissed for lack of evidence. Two murderers walk, justice is served cold and somebody is paid big time!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:28 PM on January 09, 2006
Super Bowl XXII 1988 Quarterback Doug Williams Washington Redskins The greatest 2nd quarter ever! Now that Leftwich is gone, somewhere Doug Williams pops a silent cork on a bottle of champagne.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:15 PM on January 09, 2006
There's no way Larry Brown deserved to be the Super Bowl XXX MVP. That award should have gone to Quarterback Neil O'Donnell. posted by rcade at 12:17 PM CST on January 9 Agreed, The Brown family fortune was established on two sofballs that O'Donnell lobbed into the flat. Brown takes them both to the house and the MVP and a huge contract the next year.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:11 PM on January 09, 2006
There is a difference between an errant hip check and an intentional "knee sweep" like what Marchment has been famous for executing on the top forwards of the league. If you review the whole Todd Berttruzi incident you can trace it's beginning to a similar tactic from Moore. It is save for the " two handed stick to the back of the head " ala Marty Mcsorley/Donald Brashear, the dirtiest kind of play in hockey. It is unusual when it doesn't blow out a knee.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 10:03 PM on January 09, 2006
I have watched Simms not win the big game since 1999 when he brought Ramapo HS into Hoboken for the State Championship of NJ,..He got spanked then, he got spanked in Texas and he continues to get spanked!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 07:58 AM on January 08, 2006
I believe only two visiting QBs have ever won playoff games at Denver. I know that Mark Malone(Steelers) was one, but I can't think of who the other guy could be...?
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 07:53 AM on January 08, 2006
Has it crossed your mind that blacks may not need or want you to come to their rescue? Do you have any idea how condescending it is for you to assume that role? Before you start implying another person practices racism, The natural progression of the extremist veiw point is a tendency to become what it opposes.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 12:47 AM on January 08, 2006
the Baltimore Ravens won Super Bowl XXXV with a medioce offense at best. Trent Dilfer is god as compared to Kyle Orton..and at least Joe Montana as compared to Rex Grossman..So much for Tampa's "attack the ball" defense. It is hard to swarm when your flat on your back. Short yardage and goaline situations are the weakness of the smaller swarming type defenses. Thanks to Simms and company that's where the were for most of the game
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 12:42 AM on January 08, 2006
Patriots Game Plan 1/7/2006: - national anthem - coin toss - win game with usual aplumb - act disinterested at post game press conference when asked who you will beat next week.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 12:31 AM on January 08, 2006
The last three Jets coaches have quit, 4 if you count Belichek. I see a trend developing. How about Larry Brown for the Jets? I don't think professional sports will ever work in New Orleans. They call it the Big Easy for a reason. It hot, real hot, laid back and there are so many fun things to eat, drink, see and touch! That was the whole reason for being there, Maybe post-Katrina will be different. I hope not.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 04:53 PM on January 07, 2006
I'd like to see an end to the constant "financial analysis" of college sporting events I see on SpoFi. I'm not talking about serious analysis, just knee-jerk armchair-sports-agent reaction to on-the-field bungles. "Leinart lost X million, Bush lost XX million, Vick lost XX million!" File under: I don't care. If they're any good, they'll make it back. (And probably blow most of it in the long run anyway.) Marcus Vick is a good passer..better than his brother. He needs to generate an income like anyone else. Professional football is his best opportunity. First round draft picks historically get more money than the undrafted. Advertizers love gimmicks and promotional tie-ins.(ie Vick brothers cough drops), they hate controversy. Michael Vick would be crazy not to distance himself from his brother at least professionally. Most sports fans like statistical evidence. So "seriously" I figure about $10,000,000.00. I think that this is where the punishment fits the crime.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 04:33 PM on January 07, 2006
I really liked Matt Leinart before he made that comment. Thats just not something u say. Don't disrespect the Longhorns, because u played this year for nothing. No Heisman and no championship. Well, maybe he's just not used to losing, so he did not know what to say. When you have played on an undefeated team or had a long winning streak, it takes a while to realize that you have actually lost. Sometimes it takes a few days. I wondered why Lienart would stay for an extra year, then I though to myself it might be nice to go back and experience college as a Heisman trophy winning national championship QB. I mean he must meet alot of interesting people in the Hollywood area.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 03:51 PM on January 07, 2006
Hey Jet fans I guess Herman Edwards just gets one "miracle in the Meadowlands" per lifetime.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 05:40 PM on January 06, 2006
That stomp was probably worth about 10 million in lost wages and endorsment deals..ouch that really hurts! No draft no signing bonus no Vick brothers memorabilia..dooh! Maybe a one-year deal for league minimum with a few incentives, maybe nothing. I wonder what his major was? ( hahaha )
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 05:35 PM on January 06, 2006
No offense to TP but if he and Vashar are the only other two defensive players coming up in this conversation, it's obvious why Urlacker was the landslide victor. TP may win it next year. For your information Hater 187, he was too busy messing around with Paris Hilton to win it in the past. Women weaken legs I don't know if it was Paris Hilton , weak legs or the multiple times he got burned in single coverage but, this isn't even close. It's Erlacher all the way. He made a great come back from falling into the overrated catagory for a few years. Too bad the Bears can't use him on offense.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 04:09 PM on January 06, 2006
Hopefully for Eagles fans, they will scrap the West coast offense. Childress should take Terrell Owens with him, if he is going to try and still run the same offense in Minnesota. The Eagles offense under Childress was only a threat for the 20 games TO played in it.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 04:02 PM on January 06, 2006
I like Hershiser's chances. He was great and all the reporters like him because he looks more like a reporter than a jock. Belle is going to be a victim of the beginning among the suspected steroid tainted guys. Most of the reporters hate him. Alot of them openly cheered when he retired.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 03:54 PM on January 06, 2006
The NHL is like the bloated real estate market. Properties that were "contracted" during the end of the boom are the most worthless and will drop the furthest. However a quality player will always bring value. So old guys(with declining skills), who signed bloated short term deals have to be the first ones waived to make room for the new price structures. It is just good buisness.
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 03:37 PM on January 06, 2006
Vince Young. Wow. What an amazing performance in the biggest games he's ever played. An absolute man among boys. It was the best performance by a big time college player I have ever seen in a big game! The last two scoring runs, he looked like a big kid just flinging off his little brothers..Wow!
posted by gronir_ hitrops at 03:26 PM on January 06, 2006
Intellectual Property or Historical Facts(pdf)
what do you expect from a sport run by a bunch of greedy used car salesmen. ...and corporate bottomline profit whores?