- 08:11 AM
- 11/22/09
Sounds like the moment would make a nice Norman Rockwell painting.
Which is exactly the type of scene people are expecting to see at an NFL game, right.
Can you give me the names, ages, and backgrounds of these 63,000 people in Buffalo? Are they standing in the owners box, the top person in the structure of the NFL team?
I'm sorry, I thought Buffalo had earned a reputation of having some pretty raucous fans. I guess I was mistaken, they probably never saw the bird being flipped before Bud let it fly.
Next time I generalize, I'll remember to do a thorough background check. I'm sure if I had the names, ages and backgrounds of the next full house at a Bill's game, I'd find that I was being really silly, thinking they'd ever use a curse word.
The fact some think this is cute says something about the erosion of common decency and respect in this day and age.
He flipped off Bills fans, and you equate that to the erosion of common decency and respect in "this day and age." Funny.
Isn't Adams' display of juvenile behavior -- which was in sight of hundreds, including kids -- worse?
Do you have the names, backgrounds and ages of these supposed kids?
( I kid )
posted by tselson at 10:53 PM on November 18
Just a little respect for humans to understand you don't stand in front of 63,000 people and tell the visiting team, Fuck You.
As opposed to Buffalo, where 63,000 people tell the visiting team Fuck you?
Pro football games are pretty much PG-13 these days.
posted by tselson at 11:30 PM on November 17
Rehab sucks. Run Nolan.
My stereo is cool.
posted by tselson at 10:04 PM on November 14
All this arguing about how the Yankees are dominating baseball in an unfair manner, and the fact remains they haven't even been in the World Series in nine years.
Ahem, the Reds haven't been in the World Series for nineteen. The Rangers...never? Brewers? Playoffs? Nope, haven't been able to enjoy the home team in those for almost two decades. I just love it when Yankee fans try to convince fans of other teams that they shouldn't be so petty, by saying that it took a longer time for the Yankees to win their 27th than it should have.
I've raised children who don't know what playoff baseball is all about, let alone appearing in the World Series. Yes, I am a fan of a bottom feeding NL team. I live in an unimportant part of the country. I thought I was a winner but then I realized I wasn't from New York. Forgive me for not wanting to praise their wonderful achievement. I'm too simple to understand that the Yankees have a harder time competing than other teams.
posted by tselson at 02:21 AM on November 08
"Being from New York, I have always considered myself to be a winner," King told The Hill. "So it is very difficult for me to understand the 'begrudgery' and thought process of those who come from unimportant cities and states."
That's hilarious. It also seems to sum up the sense of entitled worship that the masses should bestow upon the Yankees. I live in an unimportant city and state. Woe is me.
posted by tselson at 01:09 AM on November 08
The jury ruled that the bats were not bad bats. They ruled that the company should have had labels. I think it is apparent that the parents went after the right defendants. American Legion and the rest didn't know the dangers of the bats because they were not adequately warned by the manufacturer.
The jury disagreed that the dangers of aluminum bats were common knowledge. The manufacturer lost because they failed to properly warn about the dangers of their bats.
Okay, so what label would have saved the kids life or the company $792,000.00?
posted by tselson at 11:39 PM on October 30
sorry no post intended. I have noticed that you can edit multiple times, though.
posted by tselson at 11:28 PM on October 30
Very cool, thanks for posting. I'd never seen the footage of Christy Mathewson before either, from 1906! Or the Honus Wagner and Ty Cobb footage, for that matter. That's quite a bit of history sitting in those archives.
posted by tselson at 11:10 PM on October 08
I don't see how the ipod provides an unfair advantage if everyone is allowed to use one.
They have been found to release small amounts of tricthtophendrandro. Which is a stimulate naturally found in apple sugar, which is amplified through earbuds. duh.
posted by tselson at 03:31 PM on October 08
pass
posted by tselson at 01:05 AM on October 07
Given the idiocy on the right, I think they should start looking to see if any of THEM have head injuries...
Politics and sports might mix better on Spofi, if comments like this, whatever. I'll pick my mood. Let it slide....blow up three years from now and be called a martyr. Sounds good.
posted by tselson at 12:44 AM on October 04
Actually, after further review, that picture seems to have around 18 more people in attendance. They make a big difference though.
posted by tselson at 04:46 PM on September 30
Sorry. I've been a little defensive, lately. If you've never been to Olympic Stadium, it's rather massive and sparsely populated. We had around 24 sections to ourselves. No vendors on that level, not even on the concourse.
I mean it was like a ghost town up there. This picture appears to have a couple thousand more in attendance than the game we went to.
posted by tselson at 04:34 PM on September 30
I was responding to this:
Why? Because I think American culture is different. Church going in your country still rates at levels not seen in Australia since the 19th century, and most of the flyover states have only a small immigrant or non-Christian population. Belief in things like the devil and miracles are somewhere near the figures for rural Romania. From what I've seen, it's possible to live in small town America and be completely culturally isolated from the rest of the world. Ninety two per cent of you have never owned a passport. If there's anything that should be called American exceptionalism - this is it.
I never said I was being persecuted. Thanks for caring though.
posted by tselson at 01:13 PM on September 30
Look, I've been trying to make this point for awhile. I don't like to come to SPORTSFILTER, to defend my religious or political views. It's not fun.
We share a common thread here and it's sports. It's fun.
I understand sometimes issues overlap, however, when a moderator posts something so he can push his political point of view, I 'm left to wonder why is it that:
Something like 89% of all Americans self-identify as believing Jesus is the Son of God. Now I kno we're not all American on SpoFi but given that only tselson of the regulars has spoken up we must be about the exact opposite demo.
Obligatory link to the drudge retort here.
Glad you're not a football coach, rcade. You'd be calling for your own ass.
Like I said, do me a favor and retire my jersey.
By the way, I need some cash. I found a 1987 Topps, Dale Sveum ROOKIE CARD. Let me know what it's worth. Card #327.
posted by tselson at 12:15 AM on September 30
Several 16 year olds now are suffering from the irreparable damage of baptism. They'll never be the same.
I can't believe the glib response to a government employee indoctrinating children into his religion without the permission of their parents. It's a pity the coach isn't a Muslim. It would be entertaining to see the same people who are defending this stunt completely lose their minds.
Why, of course, David. That's how you make a living.
Yeah, the ACLU protects civil liberties because there's such good money in pursuing pro bono First Amendment litigation for clients like Nazis who've been denied the right to parade. You've got them pegged.
Just giving you what you wanted. Someone to speak out so that you can push your agenda. Seriously, why else would you have posted this?
The ACLU is not a non partisan organization. Not even close.
Yeah, the ACLU protects civil liberties because there's such good money in pursuing pro bono First Amendment litigation for clients like Nazis who've been denied the right to parade. You've got them pegged.
So that's why you support them?
If you think anyone there's getting rich you haven't seen the same solicitation letters they send me.
From howstuffworks:
Remaining funding consists of grants from other organizations, ACLU investments, and attorney fees, which are awarded when the ACLU wins a case. This last funding source has caused some controversy.
I've had a f-n passport. I live in "fly over" country. I've been to Praha, Wiesbaden, Heidleburg, Paris, Strasbourg, Lisboa, Seville, fuck I've even been to Detroit. Oh yeah and Montreal! We asked for seats on the aisle, at an Expos game, which we had to explain as "the end."
We sat alone behind the foul pole in right field. I mean very alone. It was hilarious.
This post sucked from the start. I did not read all responses before posting. I am a conservative Christian male. Married. Three kids. I really like sports. I spent all of my day looking at piles of baseball cards, I'm moving from my old house. Found the ball my son caught from Juan Castro at a Reds game. Made me tear up a little, he's not a kid anymore.
Oh yeah, I'm a conservative, white Christian male. If you want to weed me out, just fucking pull the plug on my ass.
(I didn't say I was Baptist, they don't cuss and they like to baptize kids, I think they even dunk 'em, fuckers!!!!)
posted by tselson at 11:19 PM on September 29
That prayer is voluntary and player initiated, as far as I've seen. It's different for a teacher to organize a trip using school vehicles to his own church for student baptisms. I can't see how that's not a giant (and successful) lawsuit.
And this was voluntary. And, yes, this "rot", spends his personal time with kids. The f-n horror. And they borrowed the school bus. They paid for the gas? Big deal, the school/government paid for the wear and tear. Lawsuit!!! They went to church!!! Fire the a-hole! Several 16 year olds now are suffering from the irreparable damage of baptism. They'll never be the same.
David Friedman, general counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky, said in an interview that the trip would appear to violate Supreme Court edicts on the separation of church and state even if it was voluntary and the school district didn't pay for the fuel.
Why, of course, David. That's how you make a living.
posted by tselson at 12:08 AM on September 29
I'm at a loss to why this site is so heavily populated by people who reset the people who make sports possible.
I can appreciate that.
You and everyone else (including me) can probably appreciate that I just pasted my anti- union diatribe to my notebook and didn't post it here.
In the future, I'll try to understand that when I start making up words that challenge even the great Jessica Simpson's word making upability, I should just go to bed.
I do like the word upability, though. I think I reset noting, as well.
posted by tselson at 10:11 PM on September 23
They don't have any athletic skills, no real talent to speak of and are already making 200K a year. If you want someone to make more money, call your congressman and tell him the military deserves a raise.
Sorry, this is a sports site. You clearly meant to go elsewhere.
posted by yerfatma at 03:52 PM on September 21
Perhaps you should also address to stalnakerz and others - or are you only offended by certain views on that particular debate?
posted by rodgerd at 12:41 AM on September 22
stalnakerz was already addressed with the same words. That was my point. Just trying to even things out/be a butthole. Why can the same words be used without chastizization(it's a new word, I like it) and I get put down by the same guy who used them against someone else?
Sorry, this is a sports site. You clearly meant to go elsewhere.
Yes, a well-thought out, well-reasoned response to blind knee-jerk posturing has no place here anymore 'nemo.
posted by yerfatma at 08:56 AM on September 22
I don't know what's legitimate around here or why. I'm probably missing something.
But I'll take it under advisement. Christ, what happened to this place? You got people crying about misogyny in one thread and then talking about hurting someone over a LETTER in another.
nemo, I wasn't really trying to advise you. I know you've been here for a long time and I'm glad to have you commenting again.
Fatty, I'm scared to say anything else. I fear the wit that is about to be used to make me feel small. But you did disagree with your own words. I think.
posted by tselson at 11:03 PM on September 22
Maybe. I'm not qualified to say. I'm not a rah-rah, union guy. I had to join a union in order to obtain my current job. A job without which I would be still be working at minimum wage, without health insurance, much less "health benefits" and at "part-time hours" (which you can read as just below the legal threshold for full-time status and the benefits that ensures). Does that mean I'm stupid? Does that mean I'm lazy? Maybe. But maybe the fact that companies like Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Disney, etc can still get away with screwing with timesheets and forcing employees to work overtime to keep their jobs means that Unions aren't just some antiquated notion from the 19th century. That if the government falls asleep at the wheel and doesn't regulate industry, that workers, regular joes like you and me will get fucked sideways and all at the whims of the "free market". We can panhandle together while big business pockets that extra "rainy day" cash.
Fuck off.
Sorry, this is a sports site. You clearly meant to go elsewhere.
posted by tselson at 12:29 AM on September 22
LLB - Actually I assume every player does adjust their service stance and is cautious of foot faults.
You're wrong.
Explain. Tennis players don't pay any attention whatsoever to the rules? So, they aren't taught at an early age, how to serve without foot faulting? They don't practice their serve a thousand times over learning not to line up over the line or drag their back foot too far before serving?
They don't practice not breaking a simple rule so many times that it is rarely, if ever called?
You're wrong. It's a fundamental part of learning tennis. You learn how to serve without foot faulting. You pay attention to where you are lined up. You pay attention to your back foot.
You also learn that telling an official that you swear you'd shove the ball down their throat is a bad thing to do. Even if they blew the call.
Feel free to continue to ignore what's actually being said about the reality of how the game is played and lecture us all about The Way It Spozed To Be. It's rude to answer a question with a question; answer mine first before you post any of your own.
It's rude to make comments like that.
posted by tselson at 11:50 PM on September 15
Yes. The article is over three years old.
Which means what? It has an expiration date? You said "Focused on shit that has happened in our viewing lifetimes."
No it was in response to the following:
And in the article (did you read it?) Chipper Jones says he could get some right now if he wanted it.
In the article Chipper said he could get some right now. The article is old. That's all. I rephrased the above quoted comment because that wasn't exactly what I was trying to say and my use of the word shit could be conceived as combative/derogatory etc. certain things I wasn't trying to portray. So, I think that's the second time you have used that quote "against" me, I hope you will at least consider my attempt to rephrase.
* Most of my comments have to do with team accomplishments, not individual. I have no dog in that fight (ex. home run record). Mainly because I've never given much credence in comparing records from the 20s to now. I realize some do.
Hey, I'm a fan whose interest was spiked by the pursuit and glorification of these highly regarded personal achievements. I'm a Reds fan. 1990 was surprisingly, a long time ago. What can I say.
Amphetamines have been around for so much of baseballs history you have no idea what baseball looks like without it.
Gary, believe it or not, that was kind of the point I was trying to make.
posted by tselson at 12:24 AM on August 08
So to be outraged against steroids you have to be one of two things (or both). One, ignorant of baseball history, or very selective in what you're outraged about.
You're really painting anyone who isn't happy about steroids into a corner, here. I take steroid abuse and the resulting joke it caused on recent baseball history seriously and personally. If that makes me "selective in what I'm outraged about," okay. I choose to be selectively pissed about people tainting a game, whose records I held dear. Or, I'm just ignorant of baseball history. Do you want me to just say baseball has always been a joke so this little steroid bit is just par for the course?
I just don't get what the point is when it comes to "greenies," versus steroids. Google greenies. It's a dog treat now.
posted by tselson at 12:03 AM on August 07
And in the article (did you read it?) Chipper Jones says he could get some right now if he wanted it.
Yes. The article is over three years old. These are the main points I got out of the article.
The abuse dates back to World War II, when pilots and infantrymen were given pills to help them stay alert in battle. They were legal, sold over-the-counter and used to treat everything from asthma to fatigue.
By the late '60s, amphetamine use worldwide was rampant, especially in sports.
They were considered harmless pep pills until 1970,
When Congress passed the first legislation to combat drug abuse, the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970, amphetamine prescriptions dropped 88 percent within two years
He said most players used greenies to recover from hangovers and instill confidence.
Without a greenie boost, players will seek alternatives to get them through the season. Coffee. Energy drinks. Eating better. Working out more.
I just don't compare these to steroids. Their use doesn't alter the entire past 70 years of baseball history, for me. Steroid use certainly alters my perception of some rather monumental recent events baseball. I am "outraged," at the steroid use because it made me feel foolish. Was there a juiced ball era? Were the bats made differently all of a sudden?
There are enough debates, stories, theories and urban myths about bats to fill a bookstore. There are even competing legends of how the maple bat craze began in 2000.
One is that Barry Bonds hit his 49 homers in 2000 and 73 homers in 2001 with a maple bat made by the Sam Bat company of Ottawa and players started ordering maple bats en masse. Another theory is a player in the 2000 offseason used one bat all winter for batting practice and it didn't break. Word spread. Maple saves money; buy maple.
No, some players just found a sneaky way to cheat. They made me feel stupid trying to find a reason for the sudden spike in home runs. They injected performance enhancing drugs to enhance their performance. They weren't trying to get over a hangover.
posted by tselson at 11:30 PM on August 06
Or, rephrase, focused on stuff that started, in our viewing lifetime.
posted by tselson at 12:23 AM on August 04
Where's the outrage?
Focused on shit that has happened in our viewing lifetimes. Forty or fifty or sixty years from now do you really think there will be "outrage," regarding the steroid era?
posted by tselson at 11:53 PM on August 03
This is circular. He offered his services so cheaply because he wanted to play baseball, but collusion was preventing him from playing.
Yes, it is. If you believe he was still an asset to a club and that he wasn't a mess in the locker room. I also don't know why the word "collusion," is being thrown around so much. Collusion and blacklisting are two entirely different things. Definition of collusion:
Collusion is an agreement, usually secretive, which occurs between two or more persons to deceive, mislead, or defraud others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically involving fraud or gaining an unfair advantage. It is an agreement among firms to divide the market, set prices, or limit production. [1] It can involve "wage fixing, kickbacks, or misrepresenting the independence of the relationship between the colluding parties."[2] All acts effected by collusion are considered void.[3
Barry Bonds being unemployed certainly does not suggest "collusion."
posted by tselson at 11:43 PM on August 03
...since I'm sure that team could find a way to juggle the books and make the salary payment directly to the charity, simultaneously "paying" Bonds salary and having it be a tax deductible charitable donation.
Without withholding and/or matching/paying Social Security, Medicare, Union Dues, Federal, State, City, Income Taxes etc.?? You can't pretend not to pay someone, Hal. The Union and the Government don't just say, "Oh, you paid a charity instead of wages. Cool."
So while that's an admirable yet desperate statement from Bonds, it doesn't really translate into a "but he really would have been just a tax write off!" argument. That's just not reality.
If he was still so good and not a complete mess in the locker room, why would he offer his services so cheaply?
posted by tselson at 11:18 PM on August 02
It's not a pretty picture, especially for the Bengals.
Mike Brown's take on Vick.
I would argue that Michael Vick made a bad error, but what a price he's paid. He's paid millions of dollars. Millions. He's lost his reputation. He's gone to prison. I don't know what more you could do to a guy that's been done to him. I don't think he should forever be denied a chance to get back as a productive citizen. I wish him well. I hope a team picks him up and gives him the chance to play. Give him the chance to redeem himself. I think it would be nice if it ends up a good story."
I think if Brown owned the Reds, Barry would be in Cincy. I'm not sure if Mike has a little brain or a big heart. Alas, he doesn't own the Reds, so no help for Barry. The Bengals don't need another backup Qb, 'cause they now have JT O'Sullivan. ;) So, no help for Vick either.
I know I'm in the middle of two threads.
posted by tselson at 11:03 PM on July 31
...I think it is quite safe to assume that the writer meant that he forced the Cardinals into unwanted sex.
Seriously?
posted by tselson at 11:55 PM on July 21
I always kinda thought "time" was sorta called after a walk. Guess the Phillies did too. Chin music must have been in order on his next ab, no?
posted by tselson at 12:17 AM on June 21
Craziness. Cool pictures, thanks Ufez.
posted by tselson at 12:14 AM on June 21
So, "rednecks" need a cure? Define "redneck."
posted by tselson at 12:16 AM on June 12
Here you go, bo. Maybe it just takes a little longer to gather the info on us commoners.
posted by tselson at 11:08 PM on March 15
"People ask me why I don't have jerseys up, why I don't have my rings out in my house, and this is a perfect example why, because one day you could go from being a three-time Super Bowl champ to being a member of the Chiefs."
I don't get how that's classy.
posted by tselson at 12:15 AM on March 09
Being the subject of goofy and possibly humiliating news coverage does not make you do heroin and meth.
And yet, I heard Dr. Drew has recently received numerous requests from DC United personnel for free detox.
I Kid!
posted by tselson at 11:28 PM on March 05
All I was trying to do with my original comment was to help complete a more accurate picture of the man. I'll repeat myself here, and state that he's hardly a icon of virtue.
No tommy, not in my opinion. One line put downs don't help complete an accurate picture. You were trying to paint a picture of the man that fits your opinion. You and I disagree on what an icon of virtue is. If you didn't see "any documentation," or ""explanation," of Coach Dungy being a well respected and admired man, you didn't even read the link. You can look to whomever you want to admire and respect, I'll try not to shit upon them and change your mind.
Terrapin, you've posted an excellent sports topic. I'm sorry if I made you feel as though you should police the thread. Certainly not your job nor is it mine. I couldn't agree more with your position on this thread or on Mr. Dungy, the player and the coach.
Also, if others wish this thread to devolve into arguing over gay rights or whether or not a man can use his "bully pulpit," to share his beliefs, I wouldn't want to ruin their use of this public pulpit to spread their word or ruin their celebration of condemnation. Even if I don't come here to be preached to. Nope, that would be like telling Coach to keep his virtues to himself.
/eats asparagus, pees in the pool, wonders why it smells funny;)
posted by tselson at 12:53 AM on January 15
...but since others had alluded to his decency and his leadership abilities, I felt it appropriate to point out that the man is perhaps somewhat less than an icon of virtue.
You didn't point out crap. You called him "a homophobe." Looked more like you just felt like throwing out a troll worthy comment. I guess there will be no more compliments to the man because you disagree with his religious beliefs or you want to push your definition of virtue.
I attributed those comments as allusions to the coaching style he had, which was more of a teacher than a yell-at-you-until-you-fear-for-your-job method. If I worked for the man, I would probably be the first in line to complain that he made non-Christians like myself uncomfortable, but for the sake of this thread I was trying to take a different path.
Carry on :)
The article you linked to, as well as others I've read about his retirement almost always end up focusing on what a great man his peers believe him to be. With all due respect, just because other comments in this thread echoed the numerous opinions of those who worked with the man or for the man, I don't feel that "carrying on" with calling this man names based on his religion is what you intended as the topic. None of the articles or the comments either reference or applaud any homophobic comments or actions. So I believe you said it almost perfectly the first time:
I personally avoided the non-sports related portions of this story, tommytrump. Believe me when I say I do NOT support many (or any) of his non-football beliefs. But he was a great coach, and this post was intended to focus on what he did for the game of football. If others want to post another thread, or a column, to discuss other facets of the man, they are free to do so; but I'd like to request that we keep this thread on topic. Thank you.
posted by tselson at 01:02 AM on January 14
You'd really take Wayne Chrebet or Troy Brown over Chad Johnson? Wayne Chrebet? Who's career year was around 1080 yards? Troy Brown who's career high was around 1200 yards? Troy and Wayne who both only went for over 1,000 yards ONCE in their whole career? Wow, that's just silly. Chad's average is around 1340 yards since he's became a starter, in his second year.
I understand people wishing he would just shut up and play but I can't comprehend people insinuating that he's not a great receiver.
I also don't follow the logic that only players on great teams are allowed to have nicknames. WTF?
posted by tselson at 11:29 PM on August 14
Holy, Hal. I'll have to read it all tomorrow. It's late. But, if you say something in there about just needing your own facility and then you can conquer the entire world of baseball...I'll, I'll...just turn into a red headed Portuguese that climbs mountains. And if my joke is so inside that only I get it. Sorry. I just need funding for an inside joke facility. The musings part reminds me of a strength of schedule analysis for fantasy football, I just read. I look forward to reading it all.
posted by tselson at 11:41 PM on July 25
Good stuff in there. I'll start with #1 on the Bill of Rights. Please, don't ever play another soccer game on a football field. Ever. Can't stand it. Can't watch it. Despise it. I can appreciate #10 on the Responsibility list... Playing humbles you and reminds you that the players we all criticize are still light years better than we will ever be. It also reminds you just what a fantastic game this is and why we are fans in the first place. Because it's beautiful no matter how ugly we make it. Get out and play a little.
posted by tselson at 11:31 PM on July 23
The fact that Wie did sign the card, with the correct score, it's just a question of how quickly the volunteer managed to catch up with her. If the volunteer was quicker, they would have caught Wie before she crossed the magic pixie line. So now Wie's participation in the event hinges on whether the volunteer was a sprightly 18-year-old or a lumbering 70-year-old? This is, again, where the spirit of the rule wasn't broken, only the letter of the rule. Wie wrote the right score, she signed the card. Hal, you can't blame the volunteer. The letter of the rule has to mean something. Like Witters explained, the players can't go out for dinner and then come back and sign their card. There has to be a cut off as to when a card is officially turned in. In this point it was official when Wie, left the magic pixie line. Liken it to baseball, if you hit one over the fence, you still have to touch home plate. Stupid? Maybe. Also, as JJ explained, you cannot put scoring in the hands of anyone but the player and his/her partner. It isn't feasible and it will change the game. Furthermore, my worry would be that if you put in a referee (and the more I think about it, I reckon you'd need more not fewer people than I originally estimated), then golf starts to lean toward being like most other sports where deceiving the referee isn't frowned upon, but actually lauded and rewarded. In golf, the rules must be self enforced. You can call it hogwash but it really is simply part of the game. If I ground my club and the ball moves 1/2" and no one else saw it, it is my responsibility to count that as a stroke. That is part of what golf is about. If the game started being taught that it was a referee, umpire or volunteer's responsibility to catch those infractions...well, it just wouldn't be golf. In baseball, I'd grin a little if I threw a "strike" that was 4" outside. That's just how it goes. If I didn't count a stroke because my partner couldn't tell that I was actually 6" out of bounds...I wouldn't have been able to sleep.
posted by tselson at 11:27 PM on July 22
MLB is not on the same page, I guess. Although it is for charity.
posted by tselson at 09:40 AM on July 22
Dude, he did say you can step on it. I thought that was a compliment. And yeah, I'm like, 11.
posted by tselson at 01:51 PM on July 09
"See the video." Yeah, right! Good one! Like I want to see th.. Oh crap. I couldn't resist.
posted by tselson at 03:07 PM on July 03
So the CU tennis team got screwed and it had nothing to do with Title IX. Glad you keep bringing it up. I brought it up because I was asked, and because a certain individual implied that I was a hypocrite for mentioning the incident in passing without providing detail. Do you have a problem with that? No, you brought it up on your own and told everyone to take a look at what a money pit the football team is: The facts don't support this. Men's football and basketball turn a profit at a relatively small number of Div I schools; at many others, they're huge money pits. Take a look at CU, just to use one example. If you take a look at CU's info, you'll find that football is indeed not a money pit. You will also find that even without the men's tennis team, the men's participation percentage is still higher than it should be. Look, I have a son who hopes to play golf for a small school. I also have two younger daughters who play competitive soccer and basketball. I want them all to have a fair opportunity. That's why I found the topic interesting. I didn't invent any statements. I simply interpreted them. I have no idea why you started on about uppity women or awful evil women feminists. If they were directed at comments that were deleted, sorry. I simply tried earlier to point out that no one here seemed to be harboring that point of view. And then you said it again, directed at my comment as if to put those words in MY mouth. So, that's where I was coming from.
posted by tselson at 02:57 PM on July 03
Lbb, So the CU tennis team got screwed and it had nothing to do with Title IX. Glad you keep bringing it up. And the article is complete trash because a super secret "anti-woman," neocon wrote it to promote her skillfully veiled agenda of ruining women's rights. No football program is good for the school and it is impossible that they may actually make any money because UM is investing in stadium renovations to lose some more money. As it would be impossible to consider that a sound investment. And you like to say "damn uppity women," so that anyone who may have found it interesting to question whether Title IX is perfect as it stands now, is some sort of women's rights oppressor. If I'm missing a real point in there somewhere, let me know. In the meantime I've enjoyed perusing through bperks link. UM's football team generates enough profit to subsidize the entire athletic program and then some. There is one more women's team than men's and participation is almost equal (the women had a handful more) It all looks good based on the numbers and football appears to be an excellent place to spend quite a bit of money due to it's excellent ROI. As bperk also points out, football in D-I seemingly across the board covers it's nut. So, we can not let the facts regarding football get in the way and continue to bemoan that it is the crux of all evil in college athletics, or we can leave it out of a discussion on how Title IX is working out.
posted by tselson at 04:15 PM on July 02
Yeah, Title IX did it. It's all Title IX's fault. Hail football, maker of revenue (just don't ask us to show you all the numbers, including expenses, and graduation rates, let's not talk about those either), and if those wussy little sports get cut, it's the fault of the damn Washington politicians and the damn uppity women. I don't think anyone here or the article was saying that. I just don't get why football becomes the main topic whenever Title IX comes up. I don't get why it's so hard to accept that some football programs are profitable. I don't know what that has to do with Title IX possibly needing a look at since there has been time to see what it's strengths and possible weaknesses are. That is, if gender equity is still the ultimate goal here.
posted by tselson at 12:25 PM on July 02
You mean happy? Because I'm happy as a clam. Uh, oh. Do you think I could get auto-edited for that? I would have it edited to say, "I am as happy as a bivalve mollusk." But then again I'm an asshole.
posted by tselson at 12:05 PM on July 02
Also, what makes a sport a "profit sport" -- one year in the black? Well these are pretty good one year numbers for the top twenty. (click the link for the top twenty in pictures for all the info) If a football team costs a school money, should it get a smaller percentage of the budget in subsequent years? Lots of things cost a school money. Football isn't the only school program that may run in the red and still be kept around. My hunch is that football and men's basketball are a few activities that occasionally make the school some coin. Most of the money is from donations from boosters. Cite? Example? From UT's page on the top twenty: *In addition, the football program was directly responsible for $16.2 million in donations to the Volunteer Athletic & Scholarship fund via ticket reservation fees. Take a peek at U of Minn financial s and you'll see that the school operated on a huge operating loss before state subsidizing and donations. So I'm inclined to believe that the whole Institution is a crappy revenue generator. (And without doing much more research, I'm comfortable saying that UM is very typical) The article wasn't bashing Title IX, it just suggests that it may need some tweaking to be more reasonable. And when the article states this: The total number of women's teams has exceeded the total number of men's teams since 1995. I have to wonder if Title IX has been a reasonable "solution" to gender inequities. Also, I don't know or have missed all the cites regarding "CU."
posted by tselson at 11:07 PM on July 01
Where can we watch live in the US for free at home (or can we)? Here.
posted by tselson at 02:27 PM on June 05
come on Rangers! (in tonight's UEFA Cup final). I'm ready.
posted by tselson at 12:53 PM on May 14
Glad you didn't say a hole in one, Bo. Then I'd owe everyone a drink! Steelergirl, not sure exactly what you mean. Yes, golf wear of the yesteryear was atrocious, but if you have to wear a shirt and shoes to go to a convenience store, shouldn't you at least have to do the same on a golf course?
posted by tselson at 11:15 PM on May 08
Earlier that day, John's girlfriend walked into the bedroom to find him putting on a shirt and shoes. "What the heck are you doing?" She asked. "I thought you were going to play golf!" "Aw hell, " he replied. " I'm out of smokes, I gotta go to Seven-Eleven first!"
posted by tselson at 02:49 PM on May 08
The Tim Tebows of the world are a refreshing change from the Greg Madduxes of the world. Whoa, there is only one Greg Maddux. I believe when he was in the Philippines, he had a Lorena Bobbitt inspiring quote that was something along the lines of, "You want me to circumcise 'em? Hell, no! But I'll castrate every last one of them."
posted by tselson at 03:43 PM on May 06
He uses his sword when his hands are full, yym.
posted by tselson at 02:34 PM on April 23
This is exactly why white folks are made fun of by other groups. I thought it was 'cause their babies were so f-n creepy.
posted by tselson at 10:47 PM on April 22
That was really interesting. "no filter, no foolin'!" Over 50 years ago and the topics were so not outdated. And, yeah, Mike Wallace came across as kind of a dick.
posted by tselson at 09:41 PM on April 06
Entire Wedding Party Wearing Ravens Jerseys
They didn't show the best part.
A few minutes later a snotty ass six year old in a Brady Quinn jersey, blows out the best man's knee.