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- 04/18/24
Well there is always a fellow that played QB for The Raiders nicknamed "The Snake" which comes to mind
posted by Sportsfan800 at 09:03 PM on July 22, 2005
I'm biased and I'll pay for it but I have a soft spot on my head for Elway, Sharpe, and Smith. Now thats just "My" trio and I'm sure there are good arguements for others. John Elway could make anyone look good though.
posted by Sportsfan800 at 01:41 PM on July 22, 2005
Ok see if you can wrap your head around this- First I am not Jewish and I am not religious. The word jew however is used like a dirty word given the right context. Because of this I feel uncomfortable using the word or hearing the word. It too can be used as a slur. Should the word be banned from use because some people find it offensive. If you look long enough you are going to find someone that is offended by just about anything. I am not oblivious to the fact that some people find things like a Sportsteams Name and logo offensive. Some of the people that are crying foul I have reservations about though. Is the young lady that is mentioned in the article that this thread is all about doing it for the right reasons or is she practicing her litigation skills? Should the Jews change their name because I don't like to be "Jewed"? (my apollogies to the jewish community). Where do we draw the line? I never said the name should stay just because my Dad said he didn't think it is that big of a problem- I said I respected his opinion. Don't attack him for what I said. I'm sure that when the term "Redskin" first came out it was very hurtful. I just think that we are looking at a coloquilism (forgive my spelling) The flip side of that is a long time ago it was ok to say you were Fornicating Under Command of the King. Now it is not accepeted in mixed company.
posted by Sportsfan800 at 04:34 PM on July 21, 2005
My Grandfather died over 20 years ago and I havn't been back to New Brunswick in 35 years. I don't listen to talk radio and I think my own viewpoint is pretty well grounded. There you go again- assuming that because I mention a location I must be from there. Well I was born in Texas, spent 13 months there and have never been back to the town where I was born. I spent the first 17 years living all over the world and met a lot of different cultures. The longest I ever lived in one location during that time was Germany. I also spent a year in France. I have been to every state except 4 of them. Now you have tried to pin down what I'm about 3 times based on a location I have mentioned and so far you have been so far off base it is getting ridiculious. This site is called SportsFilter so why don't you stick to that instead of attacking everything everybody says
posted by Sportsfan800 at 03:19 PM on July 21, 2005
Insert "someone" after "I have made
posted by Sportsfan800 at 02:42 PM on July 21, 2005
How far down the PC road do you go before you don't even recognize your own country? You all seem to be proponents of PC so apparently I have already wandered too far. If you don't get the point of the London article then you can criticize me all you want but I am not going to explain it to you. You have narrowed your mind to the point that the only right way is your way and you will never, ever understand it. I will say this - most every comment I have made zeroed in on one portion of what I said, then taken out of contexet or twisted around and thrown back in my face. I applaud graymatters who started to point this out earlier. Like I said before Red Terrier I don't know.. my grandfather lived mostly in New Brunswick about 50 miles north of Muncton. I only said we were visiting them in Ottawa and at 9 I assumed he meant close by.
posted by Sportsfan800 at 01:25 PM on July 21, 2005
LONDON (Reuters) - The word "fail" should be banned from use in British classrooms and replaced with the phrase "deferred success" to avoid demoralizing pupils, a group of teachers has proposed How far do you go to make everyone "feel good"
posted by Sportsfan800 at 07:37 AM on July 21, 2005
This, in the parlance of the American Military, is known as "A three-time loser". Yeah, he even defended your right to your small opinion Not every individual will find the team name offensive, but does that make it any less offensive to those who do? I will probably get dragged through the wringer for this too but until I was 11 I had no idea what bigotry was and my DAD had to explain it to me. I grew up in a military family and lived on military bases until I was 16. Everybody was the same and everybody was treated the same. My best friend when I lived in Germany was a black guy (thats what my generation call them so tough) My Dad got orders back to the states then on to Vietnam. Tim's family ended up in Denver which is where we stayed. When I stumbled across him things had changed-not me, him. I didn't fit into his group anymore. When somebody says the Mi'kmaq are just a little tribe near Ottawa, you have to be careful, You are right, I don't know that part of my heritage. The only one who ever talked about it was my Grandfather and all he ever said was "If I didn't knock it off he was sending me back to live with my great-uncle on the reservation. This was when I was 9 visiting my relatives in Ottawa ( hence the location)
posted by Sportsfan800 at 06:05 PM on July 20, 2005
A man I know was in the Canadian army and was part of the commando raid at Dieppe, was wounded and discharged. Not being one to quit he joined the american army and got back to Germany for the end of the war. He did 3 tours of duty in Korea, 2 tours in Vietnam, and was decorated with the Bronze Star-twice. When I asked him what did the word Redskin mean to him he said Football team. I asked him if he thought of it as a racial slur he said "riduculious, that is making a mountain out of a molehill" He is also part Mic-Mac ( a tribe in Canada near Ottawa) This guy is my Dad, and I respect his opinion.
posted by Sportsfan800 at 12:12 PM on July 20, 2005
painted faces, t-shirts and war chants Painted faces are certainly not unique to the 'Skins team. Changing the name is not going to change history and the name is not intended as a "memorial" as you put it. Maybe the Native Americans can live with the name Washington Scalps.
posted by Sportsfan800 at 10:21 AM on July 20, 2005
It seems to me that we are talking about a Football Team that has been around for what 72 years, not a dark time in our history. You aren't going to erase history by changing the name of a sports team, you are only helping to forget about it. That is how history gets repeated. Leave the name -- "lest we forget". Of course I have met college students that tried to tell me the holocaust was a piece of fiction made up to frighten people or justify invading Germany. Oh yeah, and we never really went to the moon either.
posted by Sportsfan800 at 06:16 PM on July 19, 2005
USA better than England.
These little gems all came from the same person What does that have to do with the current conversation?