If they had been facing Yankees, I would have said, "escape the ALCS unraped and with their wallets intact."
...the Sox will have all they can do to escape the ALCS unscalped Guys, it's yerfatma. He'll go to any lengths to slip a bad pun into a comment. Beware of him; he's a baaaad man. On the article, I found Reinhardt's recollections of his first Yankees game quite entertaining. The use of the words "Red Skin" is blatantly racist, and I have slowly come to the realization that a name change is in order here. There has been a small controversy here in New Hampshire over a couple of high school team names. One is the Tomahawks, who use a feathered hatchet as a logo, and the other is the Warriors, who use a silhouette of a Native American head. I don't believe either has any derogatory racist motive, but rather seek somehow to associate with the more virile qualities of the names. Nor should any offense be taken, save by those who are either super-sensitive, have an agenda to promote, or both. Mind you, this is my opinion only, and I'm willing to listen to rebuttal.
If they had been facing Yankees, I would have said, "escape the ALCS unraped and with their wallets intact." Got it, Indians scalp, and Yankees rape and steal. It's all clear to me now.
I was referring to TT not yerfatma, I knew he was joking. I just didn't want to see the train wreck.
I enjoyed that article, thanks. I was wondering if indigenous people in North America are over-represented in some sports (apart from lacrosse, obviously) while clearly being under-represented in sports like baseball. Down here, the indigenous population makes up 2 per cent of the total, but I think someone once calculated that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders represent up to 15-20 per cent of Australian professional rugby league and AFL players. There's something going on, despite (or perhaps because of) many growing up in conditions similar to the Native American 'rez'. If anyone's interested, there's a book entitled 'The Obstacle Race' by Colin Tatz which covers the history of Australian indigenous sports.
I'd say indigenous people are under-represented across the board here. Even in MILL there are only a few (it seems).
You do, however, see indigenous Pacific island Americans -- I really don't know what the catch-all term is for Hawaiians, Samoans et al. of Polynesian ancestry -- in the NFL. (I did notice that Nike has launched a line of sports shoes designed specifically to accommodate the feet of Native Americans. Take that with whatever scepticism you usually associate with corporate outreach.)
I really like the idea of Cleveland changing their name back to the Spiders. Too bad it probably won't happen anytime soon.
Do Hawaiians count as native Americans? I believe Mike Ken-Wai Lum is the only Hawaiian to play the game.
If memory serves, the United States Government does not recognize indiginous Hawaiians as native Americans. This is actually a subject of some controversy in Hawaii.
Howard_T: There has been a small controversy here in New Hampshire over a couple of high school team names. One is the Tomahawks, who use a feathered hatchet as a logo, and the other is the Warriors, who use a silhouette of a Native American head. I don't believe either has any derogatory racist motive, but rather seek somehow to associate with the more virile qualities of the names. What you say about the motive behind the names makes perfect sense to me. At the same time, I think it's probably time to move on. (FWIW, my local high school team is also known as the Warriors, represented by what looks like a Lakota's head (wrong tribe by far). I'm not involved in any campaign to change the name, but when asked, I have politely declined to purchase any logowear)
lbb, that sweems to be the moderate and wise course of action. Why polarize the sides of an issue, when sticking to one's own convictions might ultimately cause the correct course to prevail. One note about NH athletic teams that should not go unnoticed is that Dartmouth changed its team nickname from the "Redmen" to the "Green" some years ago. The original nickname was come by honestly, as Dartmouth was established in part to educate native Americans, but the racist overtones were not acceptable any more.