"Just so we're clear: you think that owners would charge lower prices for seats if players got paid less" Left alone players and owners are only going to keep on trying to maximize their revenue. The 3rd party that always gets left out of the equation is the local goverment along with their consituents the taxpayers. Pro sports franchises are subsidized by John Q Public via their facilities, capital contributions, tax breaks and use of local infrastructure. By way of reward owners and players put ticket prices out of the average man's means and if he wants to watch it on the tube he'll have to pay for some sort of specialty channel (and sometimes even the radio broadcast now).
I think that the next city that is getting strongarmed by a franchise that wants this or that or they'll move needs to make some demands for better access for Joe Average Fan before they subsidize them in any way. Crap they ought to extract a huge licencing fee from them while they're at it for permission to fleece public the way that they do.
I think if we all were really smart we'd dial down our love for all these millionaires a bit and move price of being a fan waaaaay down that supply and demand chart. Either that or we need to start a movement for sports socialism. Down with the bourgeoise owners and players! Power to the proletariat sports fan!
Left alone players and owners are only going to keep on trying to maximize their revenue. The 3rd party that always gets left out of the equation is the local goverment along with their consituents the taxpayers. Pro sports franchises are subsidized by John Q Public via their facilities, capital contributions, tax breaks and use of local infrastructure. By way of reward owners and players put ticket prices out of the average man's means Name all of the famous Marxist economists, quick! Just one, huh? Guess there's a reason for that. Players + owners = supply John Q. Public, your salt-of-the-Earth everyman who never gets a decent break = demand Your problem is the other JQPs around you can afford to pay those amounts for tickets (more accurately, the companies they work for can and then write them off as expenses) and then you get priced out of the market. Don't blame those fatcats in Washington, proud Proletarian. Start hacking away at your fellow workers. La Lucha Continua! /ambles away, whistling "The Internationale"
"Your problem is the other JQPs around you can afford to pay those amounts for tickets (more accurately, the companies they work for can and then write them off as expenses) and then you get priced out of the market."
I'm happy enough to let things go to the highest bidder as soon as cities/governments stop subsidizing and rather take their fair share of the cut. Ok maybe I won't be happy, but I'll at least quit bitching about it.
Spare the hearts and flowers for these wannabees. Don't be taken in by their poor-me additude. Hard working people everyday in this country are thrown out of real jobs and many at an age where they are too young to retire and too old to be hired by someone else. Try putting in a lifetime, 20, 25, 30 years for a company only to be told they are closing or moving. GET REAL!! That has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand. These guys weren't just let go after years of service...they were denied wages for past services and then fired when they demanded that payment. This has absolutely no relation to layoffs that happen at companies like GM...those guys got paid for everyday they worked. These guys did not. This does NOT go on around this country every day. This rarely happens with any business above a mom and pop shop.
Owners will charge whatever the market will bear, regardless of the quality of the team and in direct proportion to the stupidity loyalty of the fan base. Didn't this get also get proved with the an MLB team several years back (I think the Pirates)? They raised ticket prices (which they justified by increased player wages)...hardly anyone was showing up, so they lowered ticket prices again. The fans create the ticket prices by what they are willing to pay. Salaries have no affect on it. In fact, if people stopped coming in droves, player salaries would plummet..so it's the other way around.
I'm happy enough to let things go to the highest bidder as soon as cities/governments stop subsidizing and rather take their fair share of the cut. The subsidies you rightly decry would be sunk costs to an owner and would not (greatly) affect ticket prices. Only marginal costs should change the price.
Most everyone would rather sit behind a desk, then put on a helmet and bash your head against some one else for a low wage then to spit in your face they bounce the Check. Come on can you blame these athletes for trying to make something out of themselves. I mean Kurt Warner Super Bowl MVP came from a league similar to this one. THE DREAM NEVER DIES. Just the checks might....
Kurt Warner came from the A.F.L., wich is not the same, if do your research. You will find in the afl, they make real money, it IS there job. In the nifl it is for fun. If you were exceedingly poor, like myself, you could not afford, cleats,gas,time off from your real job, or anything else involved in the extra expences. The people who play are more "well off" than lower class america. There has been no meals lost. They were ripped off, but wouldn't she go to jail if she deprived 50-75 players primary source of income? Wouldn't the irs know if they were paid or not? What about the B.B.B. Or anyone are we the only ones who know?
wouldn't she go to jail if she deprived 50-75 players primary source of income? Primary or not, it's income. She's not-paying them for contracted work they've already done. She's on the hook for that money. If she doesn't pay up, she risks having that money garnished in some other fashion, or going up on fraud charges or being on the receiving end of a lawsuit. Who cares how "well off" they were, or where they went to school or grew up or anything? She broke a contract. She either has to buy these players properly out of their contracts, or deal with the mess in court. Which could be vastly more costly, not just to her bank balance, but to her living arrangement.
Chico I agree but I just was focusing on the over exaggeration of there league. They are nowhere near pro's. She is a scandalous person,..... who ripped off some guys. She should and probably will be punished. Primary or not is the exact deception that made this story in the first place.
